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MetaMajik 10/07/17 12:33:23 AM #1:	California becomes first 'sanctuary state' for undocumented migrants Los Angeles (AFP) - California became the first "sanctuary state" for undocumented immigrants Friday, a decision criticized by the Trump administration which believes the move will compromise security. California's governor, Democrat Jerry Brown, signed the landmark legislation -- Senate Bill 54 (SB54) -- which grants better protections to people who are in the US without permission, including those who have committed crimes. It also limits cooperation between local police forces and federal authorities in operations to track down undocumented immigrants. The legislation, which will come into effect on January 1, 2018, is part of a series of laws which protect the almost 3 million undocumented immigrants living in California -- most of whom are from Mexico and Central America. Brown insisted in his signing statement the measure will not "prevent or prohibit Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or the Department of Homeland Security from doing their own work in any way" -- but it will stop local authorities from assisting. "They are free to use their own considerable resources to enforce federal immigration law in California," he wrote, adding that the new legislation will not deny ICE access to prisons. But in a statement, ICE acting director Tom Homan responded: "The governor is simply wrong." The law will "undermine public safety and hinder ICE from performing its federally mandated mission," Homan said. "Ultimately, SB54 (...) creates another magnet for more illegal immigration," he insisted, adding ICE will have "no choice but to conduct at-large arrests in local neighborhoods and at worksites, which will inevitably result in additional collateral arrests." ICE said it will also likely send immigrants arrested in California to detention centers outside of the state, "far from any family they may have in California." A number of cities in California, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco, have already banned police officers from collaborating with ICE on operations to capture undocumented immigrants. Last week, ICE detained 450 undocumented immigrants in the United States -- 101 of whom were in Los Angeles. The bill signed into law by Brown also includes assistance for students and measures to combat abuse of tenants. https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-becomes-first-sanctuary-state-undocumented-migrants-230001006.html --- CRUSADERMON WAS A DUDE?! that much pink in one place and what looks like a bustline in the armors molding I didn't think to question it! <cite>MetaMajik posted [p:887961293] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><quote>California becomes first 'sanctuary state' for undocumented migrants Los Angeles (AFP) - California became the first "sanctuary state" for undocumented immigrants Friday, a decision criticized by the Trump administration which believes the move will compromise security. California's governor, Democrat Jerry Brown, signed the landmark legislation -- Senate Bill 54 (SB54) -- which grants better protections to people who are in the US without permission, including those who have committed crimes. It also limits cooperation between local police forces and federal authorities in operations to track down undocumented immigrants. The legislation, which will come into effect on January 1, 2018, is part of a series of laws which protect the almost 3 million undocumented immigrants living in California -- most of whom are from Mexico and Central America. Brown insisted in his signing statement the measure will not "prevent or prohibit Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or the Department of Homeland Security from doing their own work in any way" -- but it will stop local authorities from assisting. "They are free to use their own considerable resources to enforce federal immigration law in California," he wrote, adding that the new legislation will not deny ICE access to prisons. But in a statement, ICE acting director Tom Homan responded: "The governor is simply wrong." The law will "undermine public safety and hinder ICE from performing its federally mandated mission," Homan said. "Ultimately, SB54 (...) creates another magnet for more illegal immigration," he insisted, adding ICE will have "no choice but to conduct at-large arrests in local neighborhoods and at worksites, which will inevitably result in additional collateral arrests." ICE said it will also likely send immigrants arrested in California to detention centers outside of the state, "far from any family they may have in California." A number of cities in California, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco, have already banned police officers from collaborating with ICE on operations to capture undocumented immigrants. Last week, ICE detained 450 undocumented immigrants in the United States -- 101 of whom were in Los Angeles. The bill signed into law by Brown also includes assistance for students and measures to combat abuse of tenants.</quote> https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-becomes-first-sanctuary-state-undocumented-migrants-230001006.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 10/07/17 12:35:03 AM #2:	Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens. --- The GOAT Fam 2017! <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:887961355] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 10/07/17 12:38:02 AM #3:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens. All of a sudden he cares about what's legal. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:887961460] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote>Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens.</quote> All of a sudden he cares about what's legal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 10/07/17 12:38:08 AM #4:	Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:887961463] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DreadedWave 10/07/17 12:39:29 AM #6:	CADE FOSTER posted... Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities! --- https://i.imgur.com/ojmm9Ja.jpg <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:887961507] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights</quote> Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/07/17 12:48:18 AM #7:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:887961850] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote>It's actually illegal</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 10/07/17 12:49:21 AM #8:	Oh great. --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:887961881] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Oh great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 10/07/17 12:52:24 AM #9:	lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:887961977] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 10/07/17 12:53:45 AM #10:	scorpion41 posted... lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. your alt right is showing --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:887962034] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. </quote> your alt right is showing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 10/07/17 12:55:32 AM #11:	Break the law and I'm good? <cite>muchdran posted [p:887962113] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Break the law and I'm good?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 10/07/17 12:56:27 AM #12:	CADE FOSTER posted... scorpion41 posted... lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. your alt right is showing Your stupidity is showing <cite>muchdran posted [p:887962144] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. </quote> your alt right is showing</quote> Your stupidity is showing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/07/17 12:56:31 AM #13:	DreadedWave posted... CADE FOSTER posted... Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities! deporting illegal immigrants is oppressing minorities? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887962146] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreadedWave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights</quote> Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities!</quote> deporting illegal immigrants is oppressing minorities?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/07/17 12:56:35 AM #14:	ick. another reason to be proud to not be a californian <cite>Tezlok posted [p:887962147] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>ick. another reason to be proud to not be a californian</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 10/07/17 1:02:05 AM #15:	CADE FOSTER posted... scorpion41 posted... lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. your alt right is showing --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:887962332] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. </quote> your alt right is showing</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 10/07/17 1:03:38 AM #16:	alt right Conservatrolls usually dont --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:887962379] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>alt right Conservatrolls usually dont</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/07/17 1:08:53 AM #17:	CADE FOSTER posted... alt right Conservatrolls usually dont you think everyone who is conservative is a troll. your insane <cite>Tezlok posted [p:887962564] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>alt right Conservatrolls usually dont</quote> you think everyone who is conservative is a troll. your insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 10/07/17 1:09:32 AM #18:	CADE FOSTER posted... alt right Conservatrolls usually dont So everyone who disagrees with this is a troll? "He doesn't agree with something I like so he is an alt-right conservatroll!" You must pee sitting down too... --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:887962586] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>alt right Conservatrolls usually dont</quote> So everyone who disagrees with this is a troll? "He doesn't agree with something I like so he is an alt-right conservatroll!" You must pee sitting down too...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 10/07/17 1:21:39 AM #19:	JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? Goes against the constitution. --- The GOAT Fam 2017! <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:887963019] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote>It's actually illegal</quote> How so?</quote> Goes against the constitution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/07/17 1:22:25 AM #20:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Goes against the constitution. Which one? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:887963043] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote>Goes against the constitution. </quote> Which one?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 10/09/17 3:33:55 AM #22:	JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? It's illegal for States to make laws that supersede the federal government's. So legally, ICE can keep working in California and could actually arrest state officials who impede them if they wanted to. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:888085805] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote>It's actually illegal</quote> How so?</quote> It's illegal for States to make laws that supersede the federal government's. So legally, ICE can keep working in California and could actually arrest state officials who impede them if they wanted to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BiggLaw 10/09/17 3:36:37 AM #23:	California's always been my sanctuary anyway. --- Don't hate the player, hate the game. I only play the cards I was dealt. Pooh Da Stryker still lives! <cite>BiggLaw posted [p:888085850] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>California's always been my sanctuary anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 10/09/17 3:44:44 AM #24:	Isnt immigration federal jurisdiction? --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:888086026] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Isnt immigration federal jurisdiction?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 10/09/17 3:45:42 AM #25:	JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? I'm assuming he's referring to federal law. In the same way that technically weed is still illegal and technically the feds could raid every single shop in Cali and shut them down. Federal law ultimately gets top billing and is supposed to take precedent above state law. They just generally don't because it would be a shit storm if they stepped over states law like that. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:888086049] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote> It's actually illegal</quote> How so?</quote> I'm assuming he's referring to federal law. In the same way that technically weed is still illegal and technically the feds could raid every single shop in Cali and shut them down. Federal law ultimately gets top billing and is supposed to take precedent above state law. They just generally don't because it would be a shit storm if they stepped over states law like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 10/09/17 3:51:20 AM #26:	J E S U S posted... Isnt immigration federal jurisdiction? Yes. I imagine Trump is going to tell ICE not to give a fuck about California Law because they work for the US Government. And remember when it was such a shitshow that Arizona tried passing an immigration law? That's pretty much why it was such a shit show. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:888086193] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>J E S U S posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt immigration federal jurisdiction?</quote> Yes. I imagine Trump is going to tell ICE not to give a fuck about California Law because they work for the US Government. And remember when it was such a shitshow that Arizona tried passing an immigration law? That's pretty much why it was such a shit show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 10/09/17 4:04:52 AM #27:	Just cut federal funding. <cite>Newhopes posted [p:888086503] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Just cut federal funding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 10/09/17 4:12:52 AM #28:	Can someone tell me why we don't care about state's rights now? --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:888086717] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Can someone tell me why we don't care about state's rights now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 10/09/17 4:26:33 AM #29:	shockthemonkey posted... States rights or illegal immigration... Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:888087033] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>States rights or illegal immigration...</quote> Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/09/17 4:29:32 AM #30:	Are people dumb? ICE is still going to be able to enforce immigration laws, lol. This new thing just makes it so they have to use federal resources to do it instead of using state and city police --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:888087089] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Are people dumb? ICE is still going to be able to enforce immigration laws, lol. This new thing just makes it so they have to use federal resources to do it instead of using state and city police</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/09/17 4:53:25 AM #31:	Kineth posted... shockthemonkey posted... States rights or illegal immigration... Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888087568] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> States rights or illegal immigration...</quote> Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 10/09/17 5:14:51 AM #32:	It would be great if all states did this. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:888087951] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>It would be great if all states did this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 10/09/17 5:21:09 AM #33:	If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:888088092] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 10/09/17 5:22:20 AM #34:	Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:888088114] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>Just cut federal funding.</quote> California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/09/17 5:24:09 AM #35:	the Golden State always finds golden opportunities. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888088149] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>the Golden State always finds golden opportunities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 10/09/17 5:32:25 AM #36:	Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding This, they actually give the feds more money than they take. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:888088297] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote> Just cut federal funding.</quote> California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding</quote> This, they actually give the feds more money than they take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 10/09/17 8:27:58 AM #37:	Arcanine2009 posted... If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time. Yeah, it's amazing that people would rather have their lives get worse as long as it means someone else gets to suffer. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:888091861] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote>If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time.</quote> Yeah, it's amazing that people would rather have their lives get worse as long as it means someone else gets to suffer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DelianSK 10/09/17 8:31:15 AM #38:	Gamer99z posted... Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding This, they actually give the feds more money than they take. Probably pretty easy to do when you're using illegal, borderline slave labor. --- DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. <cite>DelianSK posted [p:888091944] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote> Just cut federal funding.</quote> California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding</quote> This, they actually give the feds more money than they take.</quote> Probably pretty easy to do when you're using illegal, borderline slave labor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/09/17 8:41:31 AM #39:	slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888092245] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DelianSK 10/09/17 8:54:18 AM #40:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price. They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable. --- DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. <cite>DelianSK posted [p:888092685] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options.</quote> How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price. They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/09/17 9:07:47 AM #41:	DelianSK posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price. They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable. they're surviving. your validation or approval isn't a requirement, tbh. what do you do for a living? --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888093145] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>DelianSK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico. if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options.</quote> How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price. They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable.</quote> they're surviving. your validation or approval isn't a requirement, tbh. what do you do for a living?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DelianSK 10/09/17 9:12:28 AM #42:	No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required. It doesn't change the fact they are here Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation. --- DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. <cite>DelianSK posted [p:888093327] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required. It doesn't change the fact they are here Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 10/09/17 10:23:52 AM #43:	Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:888096163] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DelianSK 10/09/17 10:28:43 AM #44:	cerealbox760 posted... Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal. You don't need any other argument. --- DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. <cite>DelianSK posted [p:888096396] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal.</quote> You don't need any other argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 10/09/17 10:32:15 AM #46:	Now I'm a simple man from Kansas and all I love are America and God and guns but I did done voted for Trump because while I've never seen a Mexican before I think them bad hombres are stealing my jobs! Fuck you California. goes back to working on my farm that's subsidized by the federal government because I'm a welfare leech living off California's dollar Also all the people saying it's illegal how is that? The fed is still allowed to do their job. California just said they aren't going to use their resources to assist. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:888096562] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Now I'm a simple man from Kansas and all I love are America and God and guns but I did done voted for Trump because while I've never seen a Mexican before I think them bad hombres are stealing my jobs! Fuck you California. goes back to working on my farm that's subsidized by the federal government because I'm a welfare leech living off California's dollar Also all the people saying it's illegal how is that? The fed is still allowed to do their job. California just said they aren't going to use their resources to assist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/09/17 10:33:24 AM #47:	good --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:888096617] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 10/09/17 10:33:49 AM #48:	Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding California is up to it's neck in debt and only pays $13 billion more than it receives. <cite>Newhopes posted [p:888096646] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>Just cut federal funding.</quote> California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding</quote> California is up to it's neck in debt and only pays $13 billion more than it receives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/09/17 3:55:27 PM #49:	DelianSK posted... No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required. It doesn't change the fact they are here Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation. I was only asking because I was wondering what was actually being taken from you personally. so many seem like they've got a dog in this fight, but I'm not even sure what dog they have in this fight. many weigh in on things having nothing to do with them from a place that's typically of privilege. like the 25 year old who lives at home, but want to criticize others for how they provide their own roof, you know? --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888115006] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote><cite>DelianSK posted...</cite> <quote>No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required. It doesn't change the fact they are here Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation.</quote> I was only asking because I was wondering what was actually being taken from you personally. so many seem like they've got a dog in this fight, but I'm not even sure what dog they have in this fight. many weigh in on things having nothing to do with them from a place that's typically of privilege. like the 25 year old who lives at home, but want to criticize others for how they provide their own roof, you know?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/09/17 3:56:33 PM #50:	Related: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-undocumented-crime-reporting-20171009-story.html --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:888115073] in California... [t:75852742]...</cite> <quote>Related: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-undocumented-crime-reporting-20171009-story.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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