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hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:19:46 PM #101:	smoliske posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Sorry to break up the circlejerk going on, but in what sense are Republicans trying to stop birth control We can't complain about poor people having children and creating more government dependents and then go out of our way to make it harder for them to not have unwanted children and take more money out of their empty pockets. Wait, what does this have to do with Republicans preventing people from getting birth control Are you suggesting that taxpayers not subsidizing something = the government is preventing you from getting that thing? Um yeah. If someone is getting by thanks to government assistance and they lose that lifeline, then yeah they will probably have an even harder time obraining that thing. You know, with the whole not having money thing. Are you suggesting people can buy things without money? then they should get a damn job, you can't live off the government your whole life Yeah. And that doesn't change the fact some people are poor, even if they have a job. We can cut everyone off and wish really hard that they all get good educations and good paying skilled jobs, but I stopped confusing Disney or Hallmark movies with reality years ago. The reality is that there will always be poor people and shunning them is just cutting off your nose to spite your face. But I don't live in the Bioshock universe, so I see more government options than two extremes. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887989504] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry to break up the circlejerk going on, but in what sense are Republicans trying to stop birth control</quote> We can't complain about poor people having children and creating more government dependents and then go out of our way to make it harder for them to not have unwanted children and take more money out of their empty pockets.</quote> Wait, what does this have to do with Republicans preventing people from getting birth control Are you suggesting that taxpayers not subsidizing something = the government is preventing you from getting that thing?</quote> Um yeah. If someone is getting by thanks to government assistance and they lose that lifeline, then yeah they will probably have an even harder time obraining that thing. You know, with the whole not having money thing. Are you suggesting people can buy things without money?</quote> then they should get a damn job, you can't live off the government your whole life</quote> Yeah. And that doesn't change the fact some people are poor, even if they have a job. We can cut everyone off and wish really hard that they all get good educations and good paying skilled jobs, but I stopped confusing Disney or Hallmark movies with reality years ago. The reality is that there will always be poor people and shunning them is just cutting off your nose to spite your face. But I don't live in the Bioshock universe, so I see more government options than two extremes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:23:14 PM #102:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Um yeah. If someone is getting by thanks to government assistance and they lose that lifeline, then yeah they will probably have an even harder time obraining that thing. You know, with the whole not having money thing. Are you suggesting people can buy things without money? How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex. Also, isn't it weird how people seem to be having MORE kids they can't afford in broken homes after the government decided to step in and "help" with more benefits? It's almost like when you subsidize something, that thing will happen more often. I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies? Point to the specific spot on your ass where that came from. https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things at getting. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887989697] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Um yeah. If someone is getting by thanks to government assistance and they lose that lifeline, then yeah they will probably have an even harder time obraining that thing. You know, with the whole not having money thing. Are you suggesting people can buy things without money?</quote> How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex. Also, isn't it weird how people seem to be having MORE kids they can't afford in broken homes after the government decided to step in and "help" with more benefits? It's almost like when you subsidize something, that thing will happen more often.</quote> I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies? Point to the specific spot on your ass where that came from. https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things at getting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/07/17 3:27:07 PM #103:	hockeybub89 posted... I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies? No, but subsidizing dependents does. And also not subsidizing birth control =/= not letting people have birth control --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:887989902] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies?</quote> No, but subsidizing dependents does. And also not subsidizing birth control =/= not letting people have birth control</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:29:02 PM #104:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies? No, but subsidizing dependents does. And also not subsidizing birth control =/= not letting people have birth control You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month. We aren't actually banning them from doing those things, so it's all cool. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887989998] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry are you saying subsidizing birth control leads to more pregnancies?</quote> No, but subsidizing dependents does. And also not subsidizing birth control =/= not letting people have birth control</quote> You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month. We aren't actually banning them from doing those things, so it's all cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:29:20 PM #105:	hockeybub89 posted... https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things at getting --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887990019] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things at getting</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/07/17 3:30:52 PM #106:	hockeybub89 posted... You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month. Mal_Fet posted... How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:887990101] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackhrt 10/07/17 3:32:22 PM #107:	CADE FOSTER posted... Conservatives 9d chess --- "I live my life 3 videogames at a time. Nothing else matters. Not the mortgage, not my clan and their BS. For those 3 games or less, I'm free." <cite>blackhrt posted [p:887990187] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives 9d chess</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/07/17 3:33:41 PM #108:	Consensual sexual intercourse in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation. --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:887990252] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>Consensual sexual intercourse in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/07/17 3:34:01 PM #109:	Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:887990271] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/07/17 3:34:25 PM #110:	ArchiePeck posted... They want women's vaginas to be more regulated by the government than semi-automatic firearms are. Lol --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:887990289] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>They want women's vaginas to be more regulated by the government than semi-automatic firearms are.</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:35:52 PM #112:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month. Mal_Fet posted... How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex. So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? Republicans should be falling over themselves doing everything they can to stop unwanted babies and more poverty, but I guess moral grandstanding is more important to them than the fiscal responsibility they talk about. I'm trying to appeal to greedy self-interest here and you're still getting your nuts in a twist. Let insurance cover birth control now and you don't have to worry about more people looking for government dependence in the future. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887990356] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex.</quote></quote> So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? Republicans should be falling over themselves doing everything they can to stop unwanted babies and more poverty, but I guess moral grandstanding is more important to them than the fiscal responsibility they talk about. I'm trying to appeal to greedy self-interest here and you're still getting your nuts in a twist. Let insurance cover birth control now and you don't have to worry about more people looking for government dependence in the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KrustyTheClown 10/07/17 3:36:18 PM #113:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month. Mal_Fet posted... How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex. You're stupid. --- 1, 2, 3, and to the 4. <cite>KrustyTheClown posted [p:887990389] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You're right. Some people will just need to choose between the pill and their electric bill this month.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? If you're too poor to afford that, then you have much bigger problems than an inability to have safe sex.</quote></quote> You're stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 3:36:45 PM #114:	The Deadpool posted... Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra. Also this --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887990405] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra.</quote> Also this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 10/07/17 3:40:49 PM #115:	BC should be widely covered on insurance plans. I don't see a ton of employer-sponsored plans dropping this just because this mandate was reversed, however it was a stupid decision to reverse it. And on the conversation of "dick pills," very rarely are prescriptions for ED actually covered by a prescription plan. That's not medical necessity. BC typically falls under preventive care, so of course it's typically covered. As it should be, not to mention it has other medical uses --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:887990611] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>BC should be widely covered on insurance plans. I don't see a ton of employer-sponsored plans dropping this just because this mandate was reversed, however it was a stupid decision to reverse it. And on the conversation of "dick pills," very rarely are prescriptions for ED actually covered by a prescription plan. That's not medical necessity. BC typically falls under preventive care, so of course it's typically covered. As it should be, not to mention it has other medical uses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/07/17 3:45:19 PM #116:	hockeybub89 posted... So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? Mal_Fet posted... How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:887990830] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? </quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How much does a pack of condoms cost, again?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 10/07/17 3:49:24 PM #117:	Birth control is preventative care, plain and simple. Insurance not covering basic preventative care is counter-intuitive and counter-productive. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:887991029] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>Birth control is preventative care, plain and simple. Insurance not covering basic preventative care is counter-intuitive and counter-productive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 10/07/17 3:50:01 PM #118:	Tenlaar posted... Birth control is preventative care, plain and simple. Insurance not covering basic preventative care is counter-intuitive and counter-productive. Exactly. I don't get what's so hard to understand about this. --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:887991052] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tenlaar posted...</cite> <quote>Birth control is preventative care, plain and simple. Insurance not covering basic preventative care is counter-intuitive and counter-productive.</quote> Exactly. I don't get what's so hard to understand about this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 10/07/17 4:06:37 PM #119:	hockeybub89 posted... tennisdude818 posted... hockeybub89 posted... tennisdude818 posted... I don't want to be forced to pay for mistakes that other people make. The introduction of LBJ's Great Society led to a massive increase in sexual mistakes. Well you can pay into providing them birth control or you can pay into them raising children in poverty. Which is cheaper? You're starting from the baseline that I have to pay for one. I guess people won't learn that the legit role of government is not to protect people from their own bad decisions until the government defaults on the debt. So you want a society where the poor just eat each other? That would sure improve society, but hey at least less taxes! And there is no 'legit" role of government as there are many forms. You want a specific form of government. I just see the connection between the welfare state and the single mother state. Going back to pre LBJ America wouldnt mean that the poor eat each other. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:887991834] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to be forced to pay for mistakes that other people make. The introduction of LBJ's Great Society led to a massive increase in sexual mistakes.</quote> Well you can pay into providing them birth control or you can pay into them raising children in poverty. Which is cheaper?</quote> You're starting from the baseline that I have to pay for one. I guess people won't learn that the legit role of government is not to protect people from their own bad decisions until the government defaults on the debt.</quote> So you want a society where the poor just eat each other? That would sure improve society, but hey at least less taxes! And there is no 'legit" role of government as there are many forms. You want a specific form of government.</quote> I just see the connection between the welfare state and the single mother state. Going back to pre LBJ America wouldnt mean that the poor eat each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_rowan 10/07/17 4:56:34 PM #120:	The Deadpool posted... Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra. Do I have to keep saying this? Most policies do not cover ED drugs. The ones they do will cover about four pills per month of only one specific brand (since no generic is available) if a doctor deems it medically necessary, and you still pay a copay. And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month. Looking at Wal-mart's web site, for example, you can get nine different generics at $9 for 28 days, and another three at $9 for 30 days or $24 dollars for 90 days. If you can already afford insurance, that's really not a big deal. The issue is more for people who need more expensive birth control, or who would decide to skip it and then have sex anyway just to save a few bucks, leading to a drain on the public when they have to go on welfare programs to support their children. --- "That is why war is so tragic. To win means to make victims of your opponents and give birth to hatred." - Kratos Aurion, Tales of Symphonia <cite>the_rowan posted [p:887994232] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, the law did not use tax payer money to pay for birth control. It just made insurance policies provided by work places pay for birth control. The same way those policies pay for Viagra.</quote> Do I have to keep saying this? Most policies do not cover ED drugs. The ones they do will cover about four pills per month of only one specific brand (since no generic is available) if a doctor deems it medically necessary, and you still pay a copay. And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month. Looking at Wal-mart's web site, for example, you can get nine different generics at $9 for 28 days, and another three at $9 for 30 days or $24 dollars for 90 days. If you can already afford insurance, that's really not a big deal. The issue is more for people who need more expensive birth control, or who would decide to skip it and then have sex anyway just to save a few bucks, leading to a drain on the public when they have to go on welfare programs to support their children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 4:57:50 PM #121:	hockeybub89 posted... https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things are getting. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887994302] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things are getting.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/07/17 4:59:00 PM #122:	And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:887994361] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 10/07/17 4:59:41 PM #123:	the_rowan posted... Most policies do not cover ED drugs. I'm sorry, I should have specified. The insurance policy provided to all Congress members covers Viagra. You know, the one actually paid with tax payer money? We are actually subsidizing health care that pays for Viagra... But for Congress, not the people. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:887994398] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>the_rowan posted...</cite> <quote>Most policies do not cover ED drugs. </quote> I'm sorry, I should have specified. The insurance policy provided to all Congress members covers Viagra. You know, the one actually paid with tax payer money? We are actually subsidizing health care that pays for Viagra... But for Congress, not the people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 5:01:30 PM #124:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? Mal_Fet posted... How much does a pack of condoms cost, again? Birth control is better. Should companies be able to drop other drugs from their insurance plans if the ailments are self-inflicted and there are OTC alternatives? Why are we so fucking weird about sex in this country? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887994471] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So only people with money should be able to afford better options for pregnancy prevention? </quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How much does a pack of condoms cost, again?</quote></quote> Birth control is better. Should companies be able to drop other drugs from their insurance plans if the ailments are self-inflicted and there are OTC alternatives? Why are we so fucking weird about sex in this country?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 10/07/17 5:04:27 PM #125:	Coffeebeanz posted... And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. lmao, you smoke you have no argument <cite>smoliske posted [p:887994620] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> lmao, you smoke you have no argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 10/07/17 5:04:32 PM #126:	I actually don't have to much of an issue with the religious liberty argument of why a certain company might not want to pay for a specific form of healthcare in their insurance policy. I have no idea why birth control is the hill they choose to fight this on though. Especially when something like hormonal birth control can be used for things other than premarital sex. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:887994623] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote>I actually don't have to much of an issue with the religious liberty argument of why a certain company might not want to pay for a specific form of healthcare in their insurance policy. I have no idea why birth control is the hill they choose to fight this on though. Especially when something like hormonal birth control can be used for things other than premarital sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_rowan 10/07/17 5:05:45 PM #127:	The Deadpool posted... The insurance policy provided to all Congress members covers Viagra. You know, the one actually paid with tax payer money? Members of Congress are not provided with an insurance plan. They are required to purchase a marketplace plan with a 72% federal subsidy for gold-tier plans only. However, their own contribution can be with pre-tax payroll dollars. This also means that there is no single plan that is common across members of Congress. And very, VERY few plans cover Viagra anymore now that Caremark exclusively covers Cialis. --- "That is why war is so tragic. To win means to make victims of your opponents and give birth to hatred." - Kratos Aurion, Tales of Symphonia <cite>the_rowan posted [p:887994678] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> The insurance policy provided to all Congress members covers Viagra. You know, the one actually paid with tax payer money? </quote> Members of Congress are not provided with an insurance plan. They are required to purchase a marketplace plan with a 72% federal subsidy for gold-tier plans only. However, their own contribution can be with pre-tax payroll dollars. This also means that there is no single plan that is common across members of Congress. And very, VERY few plans cover Viagra anymore now that Caremark exclusively covers Cialis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 5:06:05 PM #128:	Coffeebeanz posted... And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887994700] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 10/07/17 6:18:30 PM #129:	hockeybub89 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap. You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:887998328] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap.</quote>You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/07/17 6:40:30 PM #130:	@UncleBourbon33 posted... metralo posted... Samurontai posted... Conservatives don't want women to be able to do anything besides make babies and be house wives And as we all know, having babies and being a housewife are the worst things that can happen to a woman It is when you're forcing it on them and giving them no other options on how to live their lives. @Knowledge_King posted... I don't see the problem. Women waiting for marriage is a lot better than the alternative. Should men also have to wait for marriage? --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:887999508] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>@UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives don't want women to be able to do anything besides make babies and be house wives</quote></quote> And as we all know, having babies and being a housewife are the worst things that can happen to a woman</quote> It is when you're forcing it on them and giving them no other options on how to live their lives. <cite>@Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see the problem. Women waiting for marriage is a lot better than the alternative.</quote> Should men also have to wait for marriage?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 6:49:31 PM #131:	thanosibe posted... hockeybub89 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap. You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations. Are we going to make exceptions for those people? Or do they get punished due to backwards religious views on sex? At the end of the day it doesn't really matter how much or little an individual may pay for BC because it really comes down to what your principles are. Birth control is a preventative medication that has functions beyond stopping pregnancy. There is no practical reason to turn it into a logistical nightmare just to make sure we pander to religious business owners and don't accidentally promote sex in society. Leave that shit in a backwards, outdated society, like the Middle East. I don't want to hear any fucking shit about how I'm the one being unrealistic. Forgive me for not decrying SJWs on one hand and turning around and making feelings-based arguments to protect fragile religious beliefs like you people. I'm not an idealistic hypocrite. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887999928] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap.</quote>You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations.</quote> Are we going to make exceptions for those people? Or do they get punished due to backwards religious views on sex? At the end of the day it doesn't really matter how much or little an individual may pay for BC because it really comes down to what your principles are. Birth control is a preventative medication that has functions beyond stopping pregnancy. There is no practical reason to turn it into a logistical nightmare just to make sure we pander to religious business owners and don't accidentally promote sex in society. Leave that shit in a backwards, outdated society, like the Middle East. I don't want to hear any fucking shit about how I'm the one being unrealistic. Forgive me for not decrying SJWs on one hand and turning around and making feelings-based arguments to protect fragile religious beliefs like you people. I'm not an idealistic hypocrite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/17 6:54:52 PM #132:	hockeybub89 posted... hockeybub89 posted... https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things are getting. Mal, I am still waiting on you to address this. I thought you said this stuff was getting out of control. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:888000215] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2016/us-unintended-pregnancy-rate-falls-30-year-low-declines-seen-almost-all-groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1 Hmm unintended pregnancy and abortion are both down as access to abortion, birth control, and sex ed has gone up. But please tell me how bad things are getting.</quote></quote> Mal, I am still waiting on you to address this. I thought you said this stuff was getting out of control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 10/07/17 7:37:26 PM #133:	thanosibe posted... hockeybub89 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications. Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap. You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations. More welfare for people with cable, internet, and cell phones! --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:888002294] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>And you can get tablet birth control for like $10 a month You don't understand the struggle of having to afford two packs of cigarettes daily. You can't afford luxuries like$4-$10/month medications.</quote> Without even touching your pathetic view on poor people, birth control is not one size fits all. I have dealt with prescriptions for women who don't get have free birth control and it is not always cheap.</quote>You'll never stop hockeybub from blaming someone else. While yeah there's some people that honestly can't afford birth control. There in a small minority despite his accusations.</quote> More welfare for people with cable, internet, and cell phones!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 10/07/17 7:43:32 PM #134:	OpheliaAdenade posted... yea, if guys can use their insurance to get pills to fix their "erectile dysfunction" then why are they questions about birth control even being asked? Insurance very rarely pays for ED drugs --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:888002572] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>yea, if guys can use their insurance to get pills to fix their "erectile dysfunction" then why are they questions about birth control even being asked? </quote> Insurance very rarely pays for ED drugs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 10/07/17 9:28:52 PM #135:	Solar_Crimson posted... Should men also have to wait for marriage? Yes. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:888007959] in Do republi... [t:75851817]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote> Should men also have to wait for marriage?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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