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DevsBro
10/02/17 9:49:42 PM
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How the hell did Noah get the funds for his ark?

Noah lived sonewhere around 600 years, and in those days you could get really good interest rates.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 9:57:33 PM
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Nice, so after the flood and everyone but Noah and fam were dead God split the earth in two and Noah's hispanic descendants crossed the newly formed Atlantic Ocean and started their own civilization over in Mexico...but somehow developed a completely different religion from the one they had grown up knowing. Yeah, I like it! I wish that Russel Crowe movie had ended this way instead.


People were still living for hundreds of years at the time, it wouldn't have taken that long for the earth to be repopulated. The general consensus among anthropologists is that North American natives came from Asia across the Bering Strait.

Humans are known to adapt to their environment, so the ethnic differences would have happened over time, which is what most scientists assume anyway. As with physical changes, cultures developed around geography and religions were derived from it.
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lilORANG
10/02/17 10:00:45 PM
#53:


SageHarpuia posted...
People were still living for hundreds of years at the time

nah bro, God level capped everyone at 120 near the beginning of the Noah's ark story.
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bkkorps
10/02/17 10:03:18 PM
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I am just glad that Noah was cool enough to boat back over to Australia to drop off the koala bears and kangaroos.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:11:54 PM
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lilORANG posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
People were still living for hundreds of years at the time

nah bro, God level capped everyone at 120 near the beginning of the Noah's ark story.

It actually dwindled over time.

Shem - 600
Arphaxad - 438
Salah - 433
Eber - 464
Peleg - 239
Reu - 239
Serug - 230
Nahor -148
Terah - 205
Abraham - 175
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Zero_Destroyer
10/02/17 10:14:06 PM
#56:


SageHarpuia posted...
Nice, so after the flood and everyone but Noah and fam were dead God split the earth in two and Noah's hispanic descendants crossed the newly formed Atlantic Ocean and started their own civilization over in Mexico...but somehow developed a completely different religion from the one they had grown up knowing. Yeah, I like it! I wish that Russel Crowe movie had ended this way instead.


People were still living for hundreds of years at the time, it wouldn't have taken that long for the earth to be repopulated. The general consensus among anthropologists is that North American natives came from Asia across the Bering Strait.

Humans are known to adapt to their environment, so the ethnic differences would have happened over time, which is what most scientists assume anyway. As with physical changes, cultures developed around geography and religions were derived from it.


The problem is that there is no geological evidence of a flood and a wealth of it that contradicts the idea. Attempts to mathematically reconcile the flood in terms of population growth/date seem to also fall through (albeit YEC seem to vary on this anyway)

I'd say a noteworthy problem is likely Australia. No land bridge but a very wide coverage of unique species.

The biggest issue upfront barring everything else? Rock layers and numerous methods of dating used that demonstrate the Earth's age is significantly longer than the YEC take allows with no geological evidence of a flood on a worldwide scale having occurred.

Basically: A massive flood likely happened at some point in a notable region historically that may have influences flood myths, but no pre-BCE societies had a solid comprehension of "the world". "The world flooding" to an older society may simply be localized on a global context.

As far as I'm aware, we have no reliable record of significant weather events during that period of human history (e.g. hurricanes/tsunamis/extended rain seasons) meaning any number of cataclysmic weather events could have occurred that could've caused devastating flooding.

for the record I'm not an atheist, but I do not see credibility in Noah's Flood being literal, there just isn't any evidence for it and a lot of things contradict it with a lot of leeway to explain how the story may have come to be
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lilORANG
10/02/17 10:18:37 PM
#57:


SageHarpuia posted...
lilORANG posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
People were still living for hundreds of years at the time

nah bro, God level capped everyone at 120 near the beginning of the Noah's ark story.

It actually dwindled over time.

Shem - 600
Arphaxad - 438
Salah - 433
Eber - 464
Peleg - 239
Reu - 239
Serug - 230
Nahor -148
Terah - 205
Abraham - 175

sounds like someone was using mods. I'm talking vanilla genesis. 120 hard cap. a 200 year old man in 2000 bc wouldn't even be able to move.
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iPhone_7
10/02/17 10:25:12 PM
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These creationist parks are blasphemous. Dinosaurs did not live side by side with humans and other modern day animals, because dinosaurs did not exist.

Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.
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lilORANG
10/02/17 10:26:35 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
These creationist parks are blasphemous. Dinosaurs did not live side by side with humans and other modern day animals, because dinosaurs did not exist.

Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

Job 40:17

Explain it or get out with this nonsense!
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:28:25 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted

We could discuss what may or may not have happened 4,000 years ago all night, but I think we both know it wouldn't get us anywhere. Science has made great advancements in the past few centuries, but even now there are some things that we just don't know yet. As with everything, the account of the flood has to be taken with a grain of faith, which is the whole principal the book revolves around.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:29:59 PM
#61:


lilORANG posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
These creationist parks are blasphemous. Dinosaurs did not live side by side with humans and other modern day animals, because dinosaurs did not exist.

Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

Job 40:17

Explain it or get out with this nonsense!

My bro the Behemoth

Jewish tradition suggests that Job was probably the first written book of the Bible, happening around the time of the patriarchs, so it makes sense.
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lilORANG
10/02/17 10:31:50 PM
#62:


SageHarpuia posted...
lilORANG posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
These creationist parks are blasphemous. Dinosaurs did not live side by side with humans and other modern day animals, because dinosaurs did not exist.

Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

Job 40:17

Explain it or get out with this nonsense!

My bro the Behemoth

gotta be dinos. Idk why that guy is trolling.

fo real tho, imagine how fast humans must have been fucking to get us from a population of 6 4000 years ago to a population of 7 billion today. Man, comeback of the millennium.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:40:35 PM
#63:


lilORANG posted...
fo real tho, imagine how fast humans must have been fucking to get us from a population of 6 4000 years ago to a population of 7 billion today. Man, comeback of the millennium.

If people lived to be ~200 years old, and every woman could have a child every six months, if they started when they were 13 and had children until they were 40, that's 52 children, and they would still be able to have children when their children were having children, it wouldn't take them that long.
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lilORANG
10/02/17 10:44:30 PM
#64:


SageHarpuia posted...
lilORANG posted...
fo real tho, imagine how fast humans must have been fucking to get us from a population of 6 4000 years ago to a population of 7 billion today. Man, comeback of the millennium.

If people lived to be ~200 years old, and every woman could have a child every six months, if they started when they were 13 and had children until they were 40, that's 52 children, and they would still be able to have children when their children were having children, it wouldn't take them that long.

that would be one busy mom! Idk why we treat women who have like 3 kids nowadays like they have such hard jobs lol. And they get to hold on to those suckers for 9 months! Imagine being 16 and having 5 kids under the age of 3. Yup, seems like something a child could handle.
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Samurontai
10/02/17 10:47:33 PM
#65:


Anteaterking posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Atheist: 7fIPdEb


The top reverse image search from this comes from a Jewish synagogue.


Lmao
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bkkorps
10/02/17 10:53:57 PM
#66:


lilORANG posted...
that would be one busy mom! Idk why we treat women who have like 3 kids nowadays like they have such hard jobs lol. And they get to hold on to those suckers for 9 months! Imagine being 16 and having 5 kids under the age of 3. Yup, seems like something a child could handle.


you do realize that you are trying to reason with someone who is completely divorced from reality, right? You would have better luck getting a mule to move.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:56:07 PM
#67:


>6 month pregnancy Where the fuck is my head at tonight? Refigured it factoring 9 months instead of 6, for a grand total of 36 instead of 52.
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SageHarpuia
10/02/17 10:59:21 PM
#68:


bkkorps posted...
lilORANG posted...
that would be one busy mom! Idk why we treat women who have like 3 kids nowadays like they have such hard jobs lol. And they get to hold on to those suckers for 9 months! Imagine being 16 and having 5 kids under the age of 3. Yup, seems like something a child could handle.


you do realize that you are trying to reason with someone who is completely divorced from reality, right? You would have better luck getting a mule to move.

I still don't see how having more than three children would have been a problem. Less than half a century ago five children would have been considered normal.
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UncleBourbon33
10/03/17 12:43:24 AM
#69:


iPhone_7 posted...
Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

That makes no sense because dinosaur fossils by themselves don't contradict the bible.
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Gamer99z
10/03/17 12:44:46 AM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

That makes no sense because dinosaur fossils by themselves don't contradict the bible.

If you believe the science and dating of things and then compare it with Christian creationists literal interpretions of the Bible, yes they do contradict each other.
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Dragonblade01
10/03/17 12:49:31 AM
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What if the Bible was written by Satan to trick people into worshiping the wrong god?
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UncleBourbon33
10/03/17 12:51:53 AM
#72:


Gamer99z posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

That makes no sense because dinosaur fossils by themselves don't contradict the bible.

If you believe the science and dating of things and then compare it with Christian creationists literal interpretions of the Bible, yes they do contradict each other.

The dating is unreliable though
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Gamer99z
10/03/17 1:00:47 AM
#73:


UncleBourbon33 posted...
Gamer99z posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

That makes no sense because dinosaur fossils by themselves don't contradict the bible.

If you believe the science and dating of things and then compare it with Christian creationists literal interpretions of the Bible, yes they do contradict each other.

The dating is unreliable though

In what ways?
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Prestoff
10/03/17 1:09:36 AM
#74:


Dragonblade01 posted...
What if the Bible was written by Satan to trick people into worshiping the wrong god?


Damn
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DarkDragon400
10/03/17 11:26:16 AM
#75:


lilORANG posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
These creationist parks are blasphemous. Dinosaurs did not live side by side with humans and other modern day animals, because dinosaurs did not exist.

Dinosaurs are made up and their supposed fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to make us question our faith.

Job 40:17

Explain it or get out with this nonsense!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ymBUsKhuM


It's a bit long, but I think it explains those verses well enough.
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darkphoenix181
10/03/17 11:40:33 AM
#76:


@lilORANG posted...
you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Pangaea_continents.svg/290px-Pangaea_continents.svg.png

this passage is often interpreted as what scientists claim happened to make pangea go to modern day structure, but with less millions of years

http://biblehub.com/genesis/10-25.htm

25Two sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

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lilORANG
10/03/17 4:43:03 PM
#77:


Doesn't solve the life ending earthquake and tsunami problem.
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darkphoenix181
10/03/17 4:45:56 PM
#78:


lilORANG posted...
Doesn't solve the life ending earthquake and tsunami problem.


you forgot the important part of the equation

God

you look at it like "if the earth got divided everyone would die!" instead of asking why God would divide the earth and kill everyone after deciding to spare man
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