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darkphoenix181
10/02/17 10:57:06 AM
#357:


pikachupwnage posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Not gonna lie the trash everywhere on the ground In the pisses me off more than the shooting does. And it's not even because of the shooting I assure you. These big events are always like that.

Although I only have read an article on it and not really seen any "good" video yet so I don't really have anything to get properly emotionally attached to here. It's difficult to truely care about people on the opposite end of the country with clearly different interest to me, without seeing some faces, hearing their stories, without really seeing the carnage unfold clearly.

Not going to bother speculating or debating on why this happened and what should change before we even know the motive.


Idk it was enough for me to see fucking civilians trying to have fun at a concert get fired on like they were in a war zone to feel emotional.

Fucking edgelord.


I mean the footage I have seen thus far wasn't very clear. A bunch of popping sounds and people slowly realizing something isn't right. Fairly distant footage. I need something to latch on to to truely care in a sitatuation like this. Partly it's being desensitized from this sort of headline happening a lot but also partly a me thing.

The trash comment was tasteless though and I really shouldn't have said it.


how about orphaned kids whose dad only wanted to enjoy a weekend of music?
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Smashingpmkns
10/02/17 11:00:26 AM
#358:


I live in Vegas and have stayed at a few casinos. Even Mandalay, top tier ones like Palazzo and the Wynn. I can confirm there is no form of security when checking into a room. Im sure that is going to change soon now. He most likely checked in his own bag, but even if he didn't bell hops are not allowed to open any bags.

I was a few streets down from the Mandalay Bay when this happened. Fucking crazy and sad. A girl I know is in the hospital and another girl I know hasn't been confirmed to be safe. The suspect is from Mesquite and he lived in a retirement community. I've been seeing mixed things about his accomplice. Supposedly she's over seas, supposedly shes in police custody.
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pikachupwnage
10/02/17 11:01:33 AM
#359:


GOATTHlEF posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Not gonna lie the trash everywhere on the ground In the pisses me off more than the shooting does. And it's not even because of the shooting I assure you. These big events are always like that.

Although I only have read an article on it and not really seen any "good" video yet so I don't really have anything to get properly emotionally attached to here. It's difficult to truely care about people on the opposite end of the country with clearly different interest to me, without seeing some faces, hearing their stories, without really seeing the carnage unfold clearly.

Not going to bother speculating or debating on why this happened and what should change before we even know the motive.


Idk it was enough for me to see fucking civilians trying to have fun at a concert get fired on like they were in a war zone to feel emotional.

Fucking edgelord.


I mean the footage I have seen thus far wasn't very clear. A bunch of popping sounds and people slowly realizing something isn't right. Fairly distant footage. I need something to latch on to to truely care in a sitatuation like this. Partly it's being desensitized from this sort of headline happening a lot but also partly a me thing.

The trash comment was tasteless though and I really shouldn't have said it.


I mean, you people were perfectly fine smearing the guy when you thought he was an anti-Trump liberal. NOW you want to pull the "it's too early too tell! We need more info!" card?

jfc


Uh what? This is literally the only topic I have posted in about this shooting and have brought up nothing about liberals
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Mal_Fet
10/02/17 11:02:19 AM
#360:


Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.
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Smashingpmkns
10/02/17 11:03:15 AM
#361:


Mal_Fet posted...
Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.


How? He was shooting from a hotel room. Someone gonna snipe him with a hand gun from the crowd?
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Goldice
10/02/17 11:03:52 AM
#362:


Mal_Fet posted...
Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.


Or it might've prevented the body count from being worse due to the chaos and crossfire and the fact most people aren't trained to be in those situations and could've ended up shooting other "good guys with guns" in the confusion. We'll never know and conjecture is meaningless.
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Antifar
10/02/17 11:04:21 AM
#363:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.


How? He was shooting from a hotel room. Someone gonna snipe him with a hand gun from the crowd?

The crowd obviously should have opened fire on the 30th floor of the hotel. Nothing bad could have come from that.
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Dragonblade01
10/02/17 11:05:06 AM
#364:


Fuck man, that's messed up.
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/02/17 11:05:51 AM
#366:


Goldice posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.


Or it might've prevented the body count from being worse due to the chaos and crossfire and the fact most people aren't trained to be in those situations and could've ended up shooting other "good guys with guns" in the confusion. We'll never know and conjecture is meaningless.


Yup this. People would likely see someone else with a gun and fire on them thinking they're the suspect. Plus what the other poster said above.

Either way though situations like this make you feel so damn powerless. Like you can just go out and live your life and one random act of violence can just fucking ruin all of that.
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Goldice
10/02/17 11:06:36 AM
#367:


Mal_Fet posted...
If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?


For the same reason that snipers in towers tend to be in better position than the guys on the ground.
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LordRazziel
10/02/17 11:07:59 AM
#368:


Goldice posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?


For the same reason that snipers in towers tend to be in better position than the guys on the ground.

I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.
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Smashingpmkns
10/02/17 11:08:27 AM
#369:


Mal_Fet posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Foppe posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gun control wouldn't have prevented this, the shooter would have gotten his guns any way.

And making it easier to get guns wouldnt have made anybody trying to stop him earlier.

But Mandalay not allowing anyone to have weapons on the premesis may have prevented someone from stopping him.


How? He was shooting from a hotel room. Someone gonna snipe him with a hand gun from the crowd?

If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?

Not saying anyone could easily have hit him from 30 stories away, but if he realized he was being shot at then it would certainly have made him duck and allowed more people to escape.


He could hit them because he was supposedly using a long range rifle and shooting into a crowd of 20k+ people. Someone firing a weapon that they can carry on their person from a crowd up into a 30 floor+ hotel is not going to hit him. The only thing that could have stopped him is if someone went to his room. Which the cops did.
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Frolex
10/02/17 11:08:52 AM
#370:


wow that is a good point, this would have gone so much better if there was a crowd of panicked bystanders blindly firing 400 feet upwards in an arc at the windows of an occupied hotel
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Curtains313
10/02/17 11:10:02 AM
#371:


Mal_fet just lives in a conservative alternate fantasy land.
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HylianFox
10/02/17 11:11:10 AM
#372:


and yet, nothing will change as long as Congress sits on its ass while raking in millions from the pro-gun lobbyists
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Anteaterking
10/02/17 11:13:03 AM
#373:


LordRazziel posted...
I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.


Good guy with a gun happens to be a way better marksman than bad guy with a gun I guess.
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Dragonblade01
10/02/17 11:13:18 AM
#374:


Conceal carry weapons would not be sufficient to fire on the attacker given the distance and height between them. In all cases, firing in that situation would be a mistake.
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Ammonitida
10/02/17 11:13:39 AM
#375:


55 dead.
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Goldice
10/02/17 11:13:55 AM
#376:


Anteaterking posted...
LordRazziel posted...
I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.


Good guy with a gun happens to be a way better marksman than bad guy with a gun I guess.


Also good guy with a gun happens to be well-trained in crisis, has perfect aim and nerves and can always pick out the bad guy with the gun as opposed to another good guy with a gun
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DezCaughtIt
10/02/17 11:16:18 AM
#377:


Ammonitida posted...
55 dead.

And over 400 injured.

Fuck.
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Anteaterking
10/02/17 11:16:37 AM
#379:


Goldice posted...
Anteaterking posted...
LordRazziel posted...
I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.


Good guy with a gun happens to be a way better marksman than bad guy with a gun I guess.


Also good guy with a gun happens to be well-trained in crisis, has perfect aim and nerves and can always pick out the bad guy with the gun as opposed to another good guy with a gun


I mean that's a given. He's good guy with a gun after all!
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davyheinz
10/02/17 11:16:41 AM
#380:


Goldice posted...
Anteaterking posted...
LordRazziel posted...
I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.


Good guy with a gun happens to be a way better marksman than bad guy with a gun I guess.


Also good guy with a gun happens to be well-trained in crisis, has perfect aim and nerves and can always pick out the bad guy with the gun as opposed to another good guy with a gun

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Twin3Turbo
10/02/17 11:16:47 AM
#381:


LordRazziel posted...
Goldice posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?


For the same reason that snipers in towers tend to be in better position than the guys on the ground.

I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.

Wait he really posted that?

That has to be one of the most dumbass posts I've ever seen on this site. It really goes how far some people will go just to defend their "side" instead of actually thinking about what they are typing.
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VipaGTS
10/02/17 11:17:48 AM
#382:


I swear conservatives think this is some rush hour shit, where a crowd of people just runs and hides and watches jackie chan take the bad guys out. then chris tucker buys them all shots.
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FLOUR
10/02/17 11:17:50 AM
#383:


So the national media has no problem showing videos of the shooting taking place but still needs to bleep out the profanity given the situation.

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Butterfiles
10/02/17 11:17:59 AM
#384:


Twin3Turbo posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Goldice posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?


For the same reason that snipers in towers tend to be in better position than the guys on the ground.

I like how he deleted his post.
I think he realized how it sounded.

Wait he really posted that?

That has to be one of the most dumbass posts I've ever seen on this site. It really goes how far some people will go just to defend their "side" instead of actually thinking about what they are typing.

don't worry, Mal will top it 6 times by the end of the day
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Sativa_Rose
10/02/17 11:20:29 AM
#385:


FLOUR posted...
So the national media has no problem showing videos of the shooting taking place but still needs to bleep out the profanity given the situation.


Yeah it's really dumb. this happened in dallas too.
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PlsGodDontBanMe
10/02/17 11:21:24 AM
#386:


@Frolex posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Internet investigators at it again. Unsurprisingly places like T_D/ pol find a suspect who happens to be a liberal to blame.


who was it upthread bitching about how reddit was closing topics posting the husband's name while pulling his little pud over the_donald being the only group with the integrity to let people post about him?


Nice job completely butchering my post and making me look like i was complaining about them closing topics posting the husbands name you dipshit

r/news closed the main fucking topic discussing it for some dumbass reason to the point T_D was the only one actually with anykind of live updates and discussion is what i said. I didnt mention the shooter nor his leanings

So fuck off
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The Great Muta 22
10/02/17 11:23:10 AM
#387:


Good lord Mal that was a stupid post. Not to mention allowing people to randomly start opening fire back is going to lead to others thinking the person responding is the initial shooter and putting THEIR life at risk.

Like, what is wrong with you dude? Seriously?
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VipaGTS
10/02/17 11:24:27 AM
#388:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Good lord Mal that was a stupid post. Not to mention allowing people to randomly start opening fire back is going to lead to others thinking the person responding is the initial shooter and putting THEIR life at risk.

Like, what is wrong with you dude? Seriously?

He has to protect the conservatroll narrative. Shit posting is more important to him than anything.
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The Great Muta 22
10/02/17 11:24:41 AM
#389:


PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
r/news closed the main fucking topic discussing it for some dumbass reason to the point T_D was the only one actually with anykind of live updates and discussion is what i said. I didnt mention the shooter nor his leanings


They closed it because the same moronic "internet detectives" started to spread false rumors about an innocent person. They recognized the potential danger AND responsibility they could have in such allegations.

Meanwhile T_D is loaded with fuckbags and utter trash so of course they have no such care. Ditto for 4chan
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PlsGodDontBanMe
10/02/17 11:26:44 AM
#390:


They closed the thread way before they identified any potential shooters.

That thread was closed before the first police press conference when they even identified the PoI.

Then the live update thread got hacked and filled with screamers.
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stoltenberg11
10/02/17 11:30:01 AM
#392:


Goldice posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If he could hit them, why couldn't they hit him?


For the same reason that snipers in towers tend to be in better position than the guys on the ground.

oh my god that was an actual post? unreal. I think that tops the 3d printers printing paper guns thing
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PlsGodDontBanMe
10/02/17 11:30:47 AM
#393:


Also jesus christ mal_fet

What an awful viewpoint
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Stallion_Prime
10/02/17 11:33:12 AM
#394:


PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
They closed the thread way before they identified any potential shooters.

That thread was closed before the first police press conference when they even identified the PoI.

Then the live update thread got hacked and filled with screamers.

Screamers? As in people yelling or those scary things that pop up outta nowhere in youtube videos?
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PlsGodDontBanMe
10/02/17 11:34:32 AM
#395:


Stallion_Prime posted...
PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
They closed the thread way before they identified any potential shooters.

That thread was closed before the first police press conference when they even identified the PoI.

Then the live update thread got hacked and filled with screamers.

Screamers? As in people yelling or those scary things that pop up outta nowhere in youtube videos?


The second one. The guy who made the live update thread's account got hacked and a good amount of shit he posted led to screamers.
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Twin3Turbo
10/02/17 11:35:24 AM
#396:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Good lord Mal that was a stupid post. Not to mention allowing people to randomly start opening fire back is going to lead to others thinking the person responding is the initial shooter and putting THEIR life at risk.

Like, what is wrong with you dude? Seriously?

Like i said man, people just mindlessly defend their "side". It's ridiculous.
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MoreRpgs
10/02/17 11:37:35 AM
#397:


Sadly this doesn't shock as it did before
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HBOSS
10/02/17 11:38:14 AM
#398:


Press conference now
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mario2000
10/02/17 11:38:15 AM
#399:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Like, what is wrong with you dude? Seriously?

he's a redhat
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HBOSS
10/02/17 11:38:49 AM
#400:


At least 58 dead now
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HBOSS
10/02/17 11:39:15 AM
#401:


Injured at least 515
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TrollSlayer11
10/02/17 11:40:47 AM
#402:


Damn. Fucking hacks trying to make this political.

You should all be ashamed.
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Ammonitida
10/02/17 11:44:47 AM
#403:


58 dead, approaching the Norway record here for a lone gunmen (66).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-mandalay-bay-live-updates/
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DanHarenChamp
10/02/17 11:45:03 AM
#404:


TrollSlayer11 posted...
Damn. Fucking hacks trying to make this political.

You should all be ashamed.

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Stallion_Prime
10/02/17 11:45:19 AM
#405:


I'm really dissapointed in some of you. You should be ashamed
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Ps2Twilight
10/02/17 11:48:21 AM
#406:


What the fuck is wrong with some of you? 55+ people are dead and all you care about is your opportunity to shitpost.

Scums.
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DezCaughtIt
10/02/17 11:57:45 AM
#407:


They've ruled out ISIS for the time being. And apparently he owned a second property in Nevada? They didn't go into detail. Think they're getting a search warrant for it
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RECON64bit
10/02/17 12:49:25 PM
#408:


concerts are death traps apparently
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