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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 8:48:00 PM
#1:


Well?


So Spidey and Bats switch villains, who has an easier time dealing with the other hero's rogues gallery?

For all intent and purposes, we are going to go with a seasoned Spidey and a seasoned Batman. None of that amateur stuff.
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assassinCrash
09/27/17 8:48:56 PM
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Obviously Spiderman lol
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A_Good_Boy
09/27/17 8:49:10 PM
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How does Batman prevent Venom from swinging in out of nowhere and biting his head off?
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DragonPick
09/27/17 8:50:21 PM
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This actually happened once. Batman had to fight Carnage and Spider-man had to deal with the Joker. Batman was able to figure out Carnage's weakness and defeat him, while Joker drove Spidey insane to the point of almost killing Joker and Batman had to come in and save the day.
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UncleBourbon33
09/27/17 8:51:29 PM
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DragonPick posted...
This actually happened once. Batman had to fight Carnage and Spider-man had to deal with the Joker. Batman was able to figure out Carnage's weakness and defeat him, while Joker drove Spidey insane to the point of almost killing Joker and Batman had to come in and save the day.

Whoever wrote that was obviously biased towards Batman
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ZombiePelican
09/27/17 8:53:39 PM
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Who aside from Clayface and maybe Bane could remain conscious after getting hit by Spiderman?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/27/17 8:57:42 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
How does Batman prevent Venom from swinging in out of nowhere and biting his head off?

Batwing
Bat Tank
Brother Eye
A boom box
Etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsM6dKS-RE


Symbiotes are 4x weak to sound (vibrations) and fire type attacks.
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DragonPick
09/27/17 8:58:03 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Whoever wrote that was obviously biased towards Batman


Lots of stuff were, dude. I remember Wizard had these small write ups where they'd pit characters against each other and there was a spidey vs bats one. Batman beat Spider-man in one punch and was declared the winner in some shitty, one page fanfiction. Once again, young me was triggered.

ZombiePelican posted...
Who aside from Clayface and maybe Bane could remain conscious after getting hit by Spiderman?


Some versions of Manbat or Killer croc are the first that come to mind.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/27/17 8:59:43 PM
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DragonPick posted...
Lots of stuff were, dude. I remember Wizard had these small write ups where they'd pit characters against each other and there was a spidey vs bats one. Batman beat Spider-man in one punch and was declared the winner in some shitty, one page fanfiction. Once again, young me was triggered.

Batman absolutely loses to spiderman in hand to hand combat. Spider-Man could rip his limbs off. Batman with all gadgets available decimates spiderman.
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boxington
09/27/17 9:01:23 PM
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assassinCrash posted...
Obviously Spiderman lol

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Behaviorism
09/27/17 9:01:42 PM
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Spiderman would kill Joker in one punch
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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 9:09:05 PM
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You guys don't think Gotham would fuck up Spider-Man?
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prince_leo
09/27/17 9:14:45 PM
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If this was just fighting, then Spider-Man wins. He's physically superior and his villains show it.
I think Batman would have an easier time on account of the fact that Spider-Man would get fucked up psychologically from Batman's rogues.
Sure Spider-Man's hit harder and have more tricks up their sleeves, but Batman punches above his weight class pretty often too.

tl;dr: in a gauntlet style where they fight one-after-the-other: Spidey wins. If dropped in NY or Gotham, I say Bats wins.
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voldothegr8
09/27/17 9:20:51 PM
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boxington posted...
assassinCrash posted...
Obviously Spiderman lol

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DevsBro
09/27/17 9:24:37 PM
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I mean Bane is tough and Joker might get on his last nerve but really who else poses a threat to Spider-Man? He can outsmart the Riddler, outrun Catwoman, and I mean Two-face is just... no.
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JE19426
09/27/17 9:29:24 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
You guys don't think Gotham would fuck up Spider-Man?


No, why would it?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/27/17 9:29:45 PM
#17:


Super intelligence, spider sense, super stength. . . Park has no problem.

Green Goblin murders Alfred and the entire Bat family before Bruce has to call in Superman.
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cjsdowg
09/27/17 9:31:33 PM
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DragonPick posted...
This actually happened once. Batman had to fight Carnage and Spider-man had to deal with the Joker. Batman was able to figure out Carnage's weakness and defeat him, while Joker drove Spidey insane to the point of almost killing Joker and Batman had to come in and save the day.


I am mad at that writer --

Killing joker , if Batman stopped that he didn't save that day.

Next Greenie as done number of things to Spider-Man how could be ok after that but joker makes him go mad.
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Sami1000
09/27/17 9:33:30 PM
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Actually i think bats might have easier time in the end. Sure, spidey can beat everyone up easy, but remember that Joker for example don't fight fair, he makes plots. Batman is top tier detective, has means to gather info, and has lots of high tech equipment to create stuff, like in one movie where Joker was going to poison everyone with those huge balloons, what would Spiderman be able to do to prevent that?

Batman gets to fight enemies who rely on mostly pure strength and one on one fights. He could make plans, traps and just out smart them all.
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BilalPowell
09/27/17 9:35:51 PM
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Depends. How much time does Batman have to plan?
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YookaLaylee
09/27/17 9:40:55 PM
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Sami1000 posted...
Actually i think bats might have easier time in the end. Sure, spidey can beat everyone up easy, but remember that Joker for example don't fight fair, he makes plots. Batman is top tier detective, has means to gather info, and has lots of high tech equipment to create stuff, like in one movie where Joker was going to poison everyone with those huge balloons, what would Spiderman be able to do to prevent that?

Batman gets to fight enemies who rely on mostly pure strength and one on one fights. He could make plans, traps and just out smart them all.

Who cares if he makes plots? Spidey deals with highly intelligent villains like doc ock, the jackal and the green goblin all the time. It would be like fighting one of them except much easier
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salandrews
09/27/17 9:44:09 PM
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Batman would have to up his arsenal and accept his martial prowess cant bridge the strength differences.

Spideys natural abilities will defeat most of Batmans enemies but his smarter ones like bane and Ras would have no issue doing things under his nose. Peter is very smart but no detective.

I'd say Batman simply because he might die to venom and carnage, but spiderman wouldn't even know how to begin tracking down Ras or Bane so thats an immediate loss.
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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 9:44:51 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
You guys don't think Gotham would fuck up Spider-Man?


No, why would it?


It's the nature of Gotham. It's citizens don't give a shit and the police are corrupt. Plus, it's kind of cursed so bad things happen all the time.
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JE19426
09/27/17 9:46:03 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
It's the nature of Gotham. It's citizens don't give a shit and the police are corrupt. Plus, it's kind of cursed so bad things happen all the time.


I'm not seeing why any of that would really bother Spider-Man.
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DarkChozoGhost
09/27/17 9:48:22 PM
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Gotham might be able to "break" Spiderman, but that would only result in him killing the Joker or whomever did it.
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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 9:52:56 PM
#26:


JE19426 posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
It's the nature of Gotham. It's citizens don't give a shit and the police are corrupt. Plus, it's kind of cursed so bad things happen all the time.


I'm not seeing why any of that would really bother Spider-Man.


It's just an entirely different atmosphere compared to NYC where the majority of the people love you. A lot of messed up shit happens in Gotham and sometimes, it even gets to Batman. Who knows how Peter would handle knowing that guys like The Joker has filled entire graveyards and he didn't do enough to stop it. Guilt is a big part of his character.
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The Deadpool
09/27/17 9:54:45 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
You guys don't think Gotham would fuck up Spider-Man?


Just Google "Norman Osborn."
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salandrews
09/27/17 9:55:11 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Gotham might be able to "break" Spiderman, but that would only result in him killing the Joker or whomever did it.


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Gotham might be able to "break" Spiderman, but that would only result in him killing the Joker or whomever did it.


It would probably break him tbh. He would fight off the regular villains but eventually he'd face someone akin to Kingpin. His identity would be discovered and his spidey sense could protect him but not any friends or loved ones.

And without Batman there's hardly anyone to back him up in Gotham. There's no bat family and the JL wont be coming to help him in gotham all the time.

Meanwhile Batman would find himself fighting alongside Avengers and Shield. He'd even make great friends like Daredevil.
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The Deadpool
09/27/17 9:56:04 PM
#29:


Apocalyptic posted...
NYC where the majority of the people love you.


You haven't read much Spider Man have you?

He's the OG "everyone hates me" super hero...
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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 9:56:52 PM
#30:


The Deadpool posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
You guys don't think Gotham would fuck up Spider-Man?


Just Google "Norman Osborn."


I agree that Norman has done some things.
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JE19426
09/27/17 9:56:57 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
It's just an entirely different atmosphere compared to NYC where the majority of the people love you.


Spider-Man has spend a considerable part of his superhero career hated by pretty much everyone in New York.

A lot of messed up shit happens in Gotham and sometimes, it even gets to Batman.


And lot of messed up shit happens in New York.

Who knows how Peter would handle knowing that guys like The Joker has filled entire graveyards and he didn't do enough to stop it.


I imagine he'd handle it the same way he handles it when other villains do that.
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/27/17 9:58:34 PM
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I don't think Spidey has the mental fortitude to take on the Joker, Poison Ivy, or Scarecrow. They're just not his cup of tea.

But Bats wouldn't have any fun with Venom or Morlun. It's be a neat match with Doc Oct or the Green Goblin though
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salandrews
09/27/17 9:59:18 PM
#33:


Superior Spidey with Ock at the helm would get by Gotham just fine though
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Apocalyptic
09/27/17 9:59:46 PM
#34:


The Deadpool posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
NYC where the majority of the people love you.


You haven't read much Spider Man have you?

He's the OG "everyone hates me" super hero...


Eh, he's more of a nuisance than outright despised like The Punisher. People still like him and it definitely shows depending on what continuity you go with.
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Bloodychess
09/27/17 10:00:36 PM
#35:


ZombiePelican posted...
Who aside from Clayface and maybe Bane could remain conscious after getting hit by Spiderman?


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YookaLaylee
09/27/17 10:04:32 PM
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Apocalyptic posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Apocalyptic posted...
NYC where the majority of the people love you.


You haven't read much Spider Man have you?

He's the OG "everyone hates me" super hero...


Eh, he's more of a nuisance than outright despised like The Punisher. People still like him and it definitely shows depending on what continuity you go with.

Nope. The majority of people don't trust him
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A_Good_Boy
09/27/17 10:06:17 PM
#37:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
How does Batman prevent Venom from swinging in out of nowhere and biting his head off?

Batwing
Bat Tank
Brother Eye
A boom box
Etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsM6dKS-RE


Symbiotes are 4x weak to sound (vibrations) and fire type attacks.

All of those methods imply that Batman knows that Venom is coming ahead of time. Last I checked Venom doesn't exactly announce his presence plus he has the ability to sneak up on a dude who has the power of sensing danger well ahead of time. Plus Spiderman only discovered Venom's weakness either due to wearing the symbiote himself or barely surviving fist fights with the thing and putting clues together during or after the fact. How's Batman supposed to do the same?
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jumi
09/27/17 10:11:08 PM
#38:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Super intelligence, spider sense, super stength. . . Park has no problem.

Green Goblin murders Alfred and the entire Bat family before Bruce has to call in Superman.


You think a guy with some gadgets is going to beat Batman?

I literally. Cannot. Even.
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YookaLaylee
09/27/17 10:29:24 PM
#39:


jumi posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Super intelligence, spider sense, super stength. . . Park has no problem.

Green Goblin murders Alfred and the entire Bat family before Bruce has to call in Superman.


You think a guy with some gadgets is going to beat Batman?

I literally. Cannot. Even.

He's literally the leader of a gang of other goblins
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Esrac
09/27/17 10:34:36 PM
#40:


DevsBro posted...
I mean Bane is tough and Joker might get on his last nerve but really who else poses a threat to Spider-Man? He can outsmart the Riddler, outrun Catwoman, and I mean Two-face is just... no.


I don't know if he could outsmart Toddler. But...

Clayface
Scarecrow
Ra's al Ghul
Poison Ivy
Mr. Freeze

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MabusIncarnate
09/27/17 10:36:12 PM
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Batman has so many weak shit villains, Spider-man would be in amateur hour.
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cjsdowg
09/27/17 10:45:24 PM
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Why do people think Spider-man haven't faced real psychos before. Green Goblin has done Joker level stuff to Peter already.
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Knowledge_King
09/27/17 10:50:18 PM
#43:


jumi posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Super intelligence, spider sense, super stength. . . Park has no problem.

Green Goblin murders Alfred and the entire Bat family before Bruce has to call in Superman.


You think a guy with some gadgets is going to beat Batman?

I literally. Cannot. Even.


What? Green Goblin has legit superpowers. IIRC he's as strong as, if not stronger than Spidey himself.

And yeah Spidey'd do better. Bats' villains are just toned downed from his in every way.
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Kitt
09/27/17 10:51:52 PM
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Spider-Man would stomp Batman's rogues. Batman, on the other hand, would probably be killed.
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prince_leo
09/27/17 11:20:48 PM
#45:


I mean, Daredevil has handled Spider-Mans villains. Batman will be fine physically.
The problem I'm seeing for Spider-Man is that for a lot of the crimes, he really won't know where to start. Like, he's smart but not in a "better-detective-than-Sherlock-Holmes" smart
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salandrews
09/27/17 11:39:43 PM
#46:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
How does Batman prevent Venom from swinging in out of nowhere and biting his head off?

Batwing
Bat Tank
Brother Eye
A boom box
Etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsM6dKS-RE


Symbiotes are 4x weak to sound (vibrations) and fire type attacks.

All of those methods imply that Batman knows that Venom is coming ahead of time. Last I checked Venom doesn't exactly announce his presence plus he has the ability to sneak up on a dude who has the power of sensing danger well ahead of time. Plus Spiderman only discovered Venom's weakness either due to wearing the symbiote himself or barely surviving fist fights with the thing and putting clues together during or after the fact. How's Batman supposed to do the same?


He can't sense venom because he was merged with it Not because of venoms own ability.
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thompsontalker7
09/27/17 11:44:57 PM
#47:


DragonPick posted...
This actually happened once. Batman had to fight Carnage and Spider-man had to deal with the Joker. Batman was able to figure out Carnage's weakness and defeat him, while Joker drove Spidey insane to the point of almost killing Joker and Batman had to come in and save the day.


That sounds incredibly dumb lol
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jumi
09/27/17 11:47:46 PM
#48:


And to those people who said Green Goblin would kill Alfred... like Joker wouldn't straight up slit Aunt May's throat. Hell, he'd probably dig up Uncle Ben and wear a suit made of his bones.
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Kitt
09/28/17 12:44:28 AM
#49:


jumi posted...
And to those people who said Green Goblin would kill Alfred... like Joker wouldn't straight up slit Aunt May's throat. Hell, he'd probably dig up Uncle Ben and wear a suit made of his bones.

That's implying he even figures out Peter's identity. He can't even pin point Bruce Wayne and Batman being the same person despite it being almost as obvious as whatever it is Clarke Kent does in his spare time.
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boxington
09/28/17 12:45:47 AM
#50:


Kitt posted...
jumi posted...
And to those people who said Green Goblin would kill Alfred... like Joker wouldn't straight up slit Aunt May's throat. Hell, he'd probably dig up Uncle Ben and wear a suit made of his bones.

That's implying he even figures out Peter's identity. He can't even pin point Bruce Wayne and Batman being the same person despite it being almost as obvious as whatever it is Clarke Kent does in his spare time.

in some storylines, he knows but doesn't care, IIRC
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