Poll of the Day > Star Trek: Discovery Modeled its KLINGONS on TRUMP SUPPORTERS!!!

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mrduckbear
09/08/17 7:30:30 PM
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Do you think Klingons are the perfect character reference to Trump Supporters?


The Highly anticipated Star Trek reboot on CBS have said that the Klingons modeled from TRUMP SUPPORTERS!!

It releases on September 24th that will continue the show's time honoured theme in a comteporary world with a futuristic setting.

It's set 10 years before William Shatner's Captain Kirk and will focus on early relations between the United Federation of Planets and the aggressive Klingon Empire

The update could prove controversial with fans of the 1960s show remembered Klingons and Federation fight as an allegory for the Cold War clash of civilizations between Soviet Union and the freedom loving United States.

The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman created the show where it is set in 2256 as the Federation and Klingons are in a Cold War standoff

Aaron Harberts said "The Klingons are going to help us to really look at cerrtain sides of ourselves and our country. Isolationism is a big theem. Racial purity is a big theme. The Klingons are not the enemy but they do have a different view on things. It raises big questions: Should we let people in? Do we want change? There's also the question of just because you reach your hand out to someone, do they have to take it?"

These sort of topics were explored in previous series but this one will show the enemies are in an internal war and forces them to examine their ideas and ethical rules of conflict and conduct. It provides a backdrop on how they want to be as a society and that analysis and self-reflection is new for the show..

Gretchen Berg said in times of stress and conflict, it can bring out the best and worst in people but ultimately the best in starfleet officers.

The Walking Dead's Sonequa Martin Green is the title character as she plays Michael Burnham, a Starfleet officer.

Do you think Klingons are the perfect character reference to Trump Supporters? let's see what people think

Klingon in Star Trek Discovery -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440C529E00000578-4866498-image-a-58_1504899418223.jpg

Sonequa Martin Green - Main Character

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440C528600000578-4866498-image-m-62_1504899585197.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440CA24600000578-4866498-image-a-68_1504899674208.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440C526D00000578-4866498-image-a-63_1504899599932.jpg

Star Trek Discovery -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440C525F00000578-4866498-image-a-65_1504899647843.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/08/20/440C524C00000578-4866498-image-a-57_1504899411287.jpg
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Lokarin
09/08/17 7:39:23 PM
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Is that why they completely ignore their own canon?
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yab
09/08/17 10:13:30 PM
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Hey duckbear, I shared this on IGN for you, looks like they still remember you lol.
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knivesX2004
09/08/17 10:15:18 PM
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I don't see a single neckbeard.
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Foppe
09/09/17 1:49:35 AM
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I cant see the Klingons building a giant space wall.
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Full Throttle
09/09/17 1:54:10 AM
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yab posted...
Hey duckbear, I shared this on IGN for you, looks like they still remember you lol.


you mean the website that has conservatives trying to shun liberals? i'm surprised they still do
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/09/17 3:01:49 AM
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mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

This describes neither Klingons nor the majority of Trump supporters.
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Rasmoh
09/09/17 5:03:33 AM
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3 weeks after airing: "'Star Trek: Discovery' canceled. Producers blame Trump supporters."
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KevinceKostner
09/09/17 5:05:33 AM
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They're announcing a new xenophobic idiot captain who does the right thing only out of spite, wait we already did that with Archer.
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Dash_Harber
09/09/17 6:24:51 AM
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That's a bad idea.

Klingons are awesome. We shouldn't be making Trump supporters looking badass.
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dioxxys
09/09/17 10:03:19 AM
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mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

So they are calling trump supporters white nationalists now?

What a bunch of ignoramuses, doing this without making this claim would have been fine but now that they have done this they are only going to majorly piss off a lot of people
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Lightning Bolt
09/09/17 11:02:57 AM
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dioxxys posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

So they are calling trump supporters white nationalists now?

I thought they called themselves that? That's what that huge "Unite the Right" thing was about, and between the Muslim ban and the wall against Mexico it's pretty easy to see that they're gunning for racial purity.
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dioxxys
09/09/17 11:16:45 AM
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Lightning Bolt posted...
dioxxys posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

So they are calling trump supporters white nationalists now?

I thought they called themselves that? That's what that huge "Unite the Right" thing was about, and between the Muslim ban and the wall against Mexico it's pretty easy to see that they're gunning for racial purity.

But They didnt say they modeled the klingons after white nationalists, just trump voters.

Simply voting for trump doesnt equate to "white nationalist"

No doubt all white nationalists did vote for trump but to call all trump supporters white nationalists is unequivocally wrong
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Zareth
09/09/17 2:42:10 PM
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KevinceKostner posted...
They're announcing a new xenophobic idiot captain who does the right thing only out of spite, wait we already did that with Archer.

Still better than Janeway.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/09/17 3:49:12 PM
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Lightning Bolt posted...
That's what that huge "Unite the Right" thing was about

I expect a fair number of Trump voters were either moderates or Bernie supporters. Just because someone voted for Trump doesn't make them a republican, nor does being republican mean someone is a white nationalist.

Lightning Bolt posted...
between the Muslim ban and the wall against Mexico it's pretty easy to see that they're gunning for racial purity.

It's entirely possible to agree with Trump that terrorism and immigration are bad for the country (as opposed to ignoring them and saying everything is fine) even if his ideas for dealing with them are stupid.

dioxxys posted...
But They didnt say they modeled the klingons after white nationalists, just trump voters.

Except the first post says this: Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes.
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Revelation34
09/09/17 4:08:12 PM
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I like how there's no source backing up this claim.
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dioxxys
09/09/17 4:49:42 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Except the first post says this: Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes.

therein lies the problem
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/09/17 7:27:16 PM
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dioxxys posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Except the first post says this: Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes.

therein lies the problem

They didn't say they modeled the Klingons after white nationalists, but they described the model they used as if all Trump supporters are white nationalists.

Somehow I don't think the Klingons will be concerned about the increased racial tensions caused by the previous Emperor or the accuracy of battle reports that depict the Romulans as oppressed.
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Revelation34
09/10/17 4:17:11 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
They didn't say they modeled the Klingons after white nationalists, but they described the model they used as if all Trump supporters are white nationalists.

Somehow I don't think the Klingons will be concerned about the increased racial tensions caused by the previous Emperor or the accuracy of battle reports that depict the Romulans as oppressed.


No the thread title said that.
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dioxxys
09/10/17 10:56:39 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
They didn't say they modeled the Klingons after white nationalists, but they described the model they used as if all Trump supporters are white nationalists.

Somehow I don't think the Klingons will be concerned about the increased racial tensions caused by the previous Emperor or the accuracy of battle reports that depict the Romulans as oppressed.


No the thread title said that.

No thread title said that but how else can you interpret this? :
>Klingons modeled after Trump supporters
>Major themes will be racial purity and isolation

They're basically calling all trump supporters white nationalists
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Revelation34
09/10/17 12:53:24 PM
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dioxxys posted...
No thread title said that but how else can you interpret this? :
>Klingons modeled after Trump supporters
>Major themes will be racial purity and isolation

They're basically calling all trump supporters white nationalists


The point was there was nothing actually linking they said anything like this.
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Zeus
09/10/17 12:59:27 PM
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dioxxys posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

So they are calling trump supporters white nationalists now?

What a bunch of ignoramuses, doing this without making this claim would have been fine but now that they have done this they are only going to majorly piss off a lot of people


They're going for a speedy cancellation.

Lightning Bolt posted...
dioxxys posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The producers however said that Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US with "isolation" and "racial purity" as big themes

So they are calling trump supporters white nationalists now?

I thought they called themselves that? That's what that huge "Unite the Right" thing was about, and between the Muslim ban and the wall against Mexico it's pretty easy to see that they're gunning for racial purity.


Which is the old backdoor, "If you vote for Trump, you're a white nationalist," and one of the big reasons why Trump finally won. If you keep blowing your dog whistle or just flat-out crying wolf on every policy you disagree with to reframe it as racist, eventually you lose whatever power the term had because people stop taking it seriously and outright reject your nonsense.

Revelation34 posted...
dioxxys posted...
No thread title said that but how else can you interpret this? :
>Klingons modeled after Trump supporters
>Major themes will be racial purity and isolation

They're basically calling all trump supporters white nationalists


The point was there was nothing actually linking they said anything like this.


Actually, there's something pretty explicitly linking the two.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/10/17 1:18:06 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
The point was there was nothing actually linking they said anything like this.

So let's look at what they did say.
- Klingons as Trump voters will now represent the current culture war within the US
- The Klingons are going to help us to really look at cerrtain sides of ourselves and our country. Isolationism is a big theem. Racial purity is a big theme.

This links Trump Voters to Klingons to Racial Purity. A is to B as B is to C.
They didn't specifically say white nationalist but clearly this is the characterization they intend to allude to.
The point was there were reasons to vote for Trump that had nothing to do with racial purity. By linking them in this way they are actually misrepresenting the current culture within the US.

Isolationism and racial purity aren't even that prevalent in US except for some very vocal groups that are looking for a dragon to slay and so are stirring one up.
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GanonsSpirit
09/10/17 2:27:52 PM
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Why is that Klingon purple? Why is the lead female character named Michael? Why do people in this topic not know that Revelation34 is just asking for a source?
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Revelation34
09/10/17 8:18:55 PM
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Zeus posted...
Actually, there's something pretty explicitly linking the two.


Because posting a bunch of image links is totally backing up a claim.
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dioxxys
09/10/17 10:18:05 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
Actually, there's something pretty explicitly linking the two.


Because posting a bunch of image links is totally backing up a claim.

Yeah haha, its "funny" because people like to harp on Zeus, but no img links were even posted...so??

Then are you just going to completely ignore what SKARDAVNELNATE said?
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Questionmarktarius
09/11/17 10:49:07 AM
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racial purity?
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Revelation34
09/11/17 12:14:57 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
Actually, there's something pretty explicitly linking the two.


Because posting a bunch of image links is totally backing up a claim.

Yeah haha, its "funny" because people like to harp on Zeus, but no img links were even posted...so??

Then are you just going to completely ignore what SKARDAVNELNATE said?


You must be blind as fuck since there are 6 different image links.
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