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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 2:35:17 PM
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Who was right? Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman?


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averagejoel
09/06/17 2:35:56 PM
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hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder
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glitteringfairy
09/06/17 2:36:30 PM
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Neither were right. Both were wrong and unfortunately someone lost their life because of bad decisions made by both people
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BilalPowell
09/06/17 2:36:31 PM
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Both. Zimmerman was right that there was a suspicious person walking around. Martin was right that some guy was following him.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 2:37:23 PM
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averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.
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Zeus
09/06/17 2:39:44 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.


Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 2:41:26 PM
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Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.
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GOATSLAYER
09/06/17 2:42:59 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.

So if a stranger is stalking you it wouldn't be justified to punch them in the face?
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DyingPancake
09/06/17 2:43:06 PM
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This topic was literally made last week and not one person pro-Martin could actually defend him and ended up sounding like an idiot

Its already started again in this topic. Do we really need to hear more?
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BilalPowell
09/06/17 2:44:32 PM
#11:


GOATSLAYER posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.

So if a stranger is stalking you it wouldn't be justified to punch them in the face?

Right. That's called assault.
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GOATSLAYER
09/06/17 2:46:16 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.

So if a stranger is stalking you it wouldn't be justified to punch them in the face?

Right. That's called assault.

Right. We should just stand there and let stalkers kidnap and rape us. My bad.
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BilalPowell
09/06/17 2:48:10 PM
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He didn't kidnap or rape him. He just followed him.
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GOATSLAYER
09/06/17 2:48:53 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
He didn't kidnap or rape him. He just followed him.

I was talking about a hypothetical situation where you specifically were followed by a stalker.
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iPhone_7
09/06/17 2:49:40 PM
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Wow you can't follow people in the middle of the night anymore without having to resort to using your firearm. What is the world coming to...
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The Admiral
09/06/17 2:51:09 PM
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I basically use people's view on the Trayvon/Zimmerman case as a litmus test for whether they're an idiot or not. Literally no excuse to still be completely ignorant when the court transcripts are publicly available.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 2:52:25 PM
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DyingPancake posted...
This topic was literally made last week and not one person pro-Martin could actually defend him and ended up sounding like an idiot

Its already started again in this topic. Do we really need to hear more?


But was there a poll in that topic last week? I didn't think so.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 2:52:36 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
BilalPowell posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.

So if a stranger is stalking you it wouldn't be justified to punch them in the face?

Right. That's called assault.

Right. We should just stand there and let stalkers kidnap and rape us. My bad.

When did anyone say kidnapping and rape weren't provocation?
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Howl
09/06/17 2:52:43 PM
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The Admiral posted...
I basically use people's view on the Trayvon/Zimmerman case as a litmus test for whether they're an idiot or not. Literally no excuse to still be completely ignorant when the court transcripts are publicly available.


Yeah but their feelings matter more than facts though. Didn't you know that already?
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DyingPancake
09/06/17 2:54:58 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
BilalPowell posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the black kid who was killed for wearing a hoodie, or the dude who killed him for wearing a hoodie

i wonder

Yea, just ignore the fact that the black kid assaulted that guy without provocation.

Well, to be fair, Zimmerman *had* been following him. The real issue is that the kid got to safety *then* decided to go out and attack Zimmerman.

'Being followed' isn't provocation.

So if a stranger is stalking you it wouldn't be justified to punch them in the face?

Right. That's called assault.

Right. We should just stand there and let stalkers kidnap and rape us. My bad.



I've honestly never seen a board twist things together in such a way (no matter how ridiculous) just to try and fit their narrative. This same lunacy happened in the "warrant" topic.


How do you people get by?
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GOATSLAYER
09/06/17 2:56:45 PM
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It's just a prank, bro
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Malcolm_Matar
09/06/17 2:58:04 PM
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Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself
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The Top Crusader
09/06/17 3:12:05 PM
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Zimmerman was legally right, but they were both idiots that night, and the idiot with the gun usually wins.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 3:15:39 PM
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Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out
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Annihilated
09/06/17 3:16:41 PM
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Anyone who paid even a wink of attention to the trial knows that the shooting was justified.
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Malcolm_Matar
09/06/17 3:26:01 PM
#26:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.
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Knowledge_King
09/06/17 3:26:21 PM
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Trayvon seeing as he didn't kill anyone.
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Shadowplay
09/06/17 3:28:58 PM
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The Admiral posted...
I basically use people's view on the Trayvon/Zimmerman case as a litmus test for whether they're an idiot or not. Literally no excuse to still be completely ignorant when the court transcripts are publicly available.

The Top Crusader posted...
Zimmerman was legally right, but they were both idiots that night, and the idiot with the gun usually wins.

These
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Darklit_Minuet
09/06/17 3:29:17 PM
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Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.

This

Knowledge_King posted...
Trayvon seeing as he didn't kill anyone.

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ChainedRedone
09/06/17 3:32:38 PM
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They were both wrong. Travyon should have handled it better. Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him. Not sure why people are so sure Zimmerman didn't provoke when the truth is we don't know what happened at the encounter. Anything to blame the black boy I guess.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 3:35:23 PM
#31:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.


The facts of Zimmerman being beaten in the face repeatedly by Trayvon before Zimmerman reached for his gun

These are pics of Zimmerman taken by the police the night of the incident

EJobWuD


I am someone who was initially pro Trayvon but then switched to pro Zimmerman after the facts came out.
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Deadpool_18
09/06/17 3:37:38 PM
#32:


M_Live posted...
Must be a slow day on CE for this topic to pop up

Seriously. Fuck.
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ChainedRedone
09/06/17 3:38:41 PM
#33:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.


The facts of Zimmerman being beaten in the face repeatedly by Trayvon before Zimmerman reached for his gun

These are pics of Zimmerman taken by the police the night of the incident

EJobWuD


I am someone who was initially pro Trayvon but then switched to pro Zimmerman after the facts came out.


Who attacked first? Did zimmerman brandish his gun? The facts are we don't have the facts. Why are you people so adamant about Travyon being in the wrong when there's no more evidence against him than Zimmerman? Jfc just come out of the closet and admit you're racist. Or a moron.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 3:40:07 PM
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There is no evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is guilty. You are right that we don't have those facts, which actually strengthens Zimmerman's case because of the way the justice system works, innocent until proven guilty, etc.
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Malcolm_Matar
09/06/17 3:43:00 PM
#35:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.


The facts of Zimmerman being beaten in the face repeatedly by Trayvon before Zimmerman reached for his gun

These are pics of Zimmerman taken by the police the night of the incident

EJobWuD


I am someone who was initially pro Trayvon but then switched to pro Zimmerman after the facts came out.

You wouldnt defend yourself with punches if someone followed you in the rain and pulled a gun on You? Ok bro
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OleBillyBoy225
09/06/17 3:43:07 PM
#36:


I back my boy George.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 3:44:08 PM
#37:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
followed you in the rain and pulled a gun on You


Yeah. I don't think Trayvon knew he had the gun, I doubt he would have gotten on top of him if he did.
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Shadowplay
09/06/17 3:44:30 PM
#38:


ChainedRedone posted...
They were both wrong. Travyon should have handled it better. Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him. Not sure why people are so sure Zimmerman didn't provoke when the truth is we don't know what happened at the encounter. Anything to blame the black boy I guess.


Supposedly Zimmerman followed Martin because he saw him behaving suspiciously, like taking weird unconventional routes through people's yards and looking in windows. Martin obviously wasn't looking to rob anyone since it's known that he just left to grab snacks during a half-time show.

Martin was a 17 year old kid, and a kid is going to be willing to take weird unconventional routes to get to their destination without realizing how suspicious it makes them look. Zimmerman was right to be suspicious and he was right to call about it. Where he fucked up was ignoring the 9/11 operator's instructions to stop following Trayvon since Trayvon hadn't actually done anything illegal. Trayvon obviously fucked up by trying to attack someone that was following him instead of getting the hell out of there. Not to mention he proved himself to be a racist fuckhole after calling Zimmerman a cracker on the phone with his friend.

So Zimmerman did something stupid by putting himself in that situation and Travon did something even stupider by attacking someone who hadn't done anything to threaten him.
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--kresnik--
09/06/17 3:45:56 PM
#39:


Nobody, but Martin isn't the martyr the media made him out to be. The whole thing was just ignorance at its worst.
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ChainedRedone
09/06/17 3:46:18 PM
#40:


Sativa_Rose posted...
There is no evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is guilty. You are right that we don't have those facts, which actually strengthens Zimmerman's case because of the way the justice system works, innocent until proven guilty, etc.


This topic isn't about the criminal justice system. Did you even read the shit you posted? It doesn't strengthen his case at all when you're comparing the two. Try reading your poll again.
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 3:47:13 PM
#41:


ChainedRedone posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
There is no evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is guilty. You are right that we don't have those facts, which actually strengthens Zimmerman's case because of the way the justice system works, innocent until proven guilty, etc.


This topic isn't about the criminal justice system. Did you even read the shit you posted? It doesn't strengthen his case at all when you're comparing the two. Try reading your poll again.


Innocent = Right
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Malcolm_Matar
09/06/17 3:48:56 PM
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If there isn't evidence to convict Zimmerman on murder, there is surely enough to convict him on manslaughter by causing a dangerous situation that resulted in loss of life. There is no rebuttal to this and anyone who tries probably has a racial motive.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/06/17 3:49:50 PM
#43:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.


The facts of Zimmerman being beaten in the face repeatedly by Trayvon before Zimmerman reached for his gun

These are pics of Zimmerman taken by the police the night of the incident

EJobWuD


I am someone who was initially pro Trayvon but then switched to pro Zimmerman after the facts came out.

He has a nosebleed and a small cut on his head, which he could have sustained by hitting his head on the door of his car while leaving it too quickly to sate his vigilante boner.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 3:53:04 PM
#44:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.

Proof?
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ChainedRedone
09/06/17 3:53:36 PM
#45:


Sativa_Rose posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
There is no evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is guilty. You are right that we don't have those facts, which actually strengthens Zimmerman's case because of the way the justice system works, innocent until proven guilty, etc.


This topic isn't about the criminal justice system. Did you even read the shit you posted? It doesn't strengthen his case at all when you're comparing the two. Try reading your poll again.


Innocent = Right


And so you're saying Travyon is guilty even without evidence. Lmao. Just admit it. You have a racial boner or you literally can't even understand your own topic. Also, the court didn't find Zimmerman innocent. So we can add the justice system to the things you don't understand.
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LethalAffinity
09/06/17 3:54:31 PM
#46:


Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son is still one of the most absurd things he said.

Gimme a break. Your son would have gone to a private school and lived in a gated community, Barry.

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Milkman5
09/06/17 3:56:22 PM
#47:


averagejoel posted...
hmmm, the taller dude who beat the smaller latino dude's head into the pavement, or the dude being wailed on who shot his attacker in self defense

i wonder
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Darklit_Minuet
09/06/17 3:57:20 PM
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LethalAffinity posted...
Gimme a break. Your son would have gone to a private school and lived in a gated community, Barry.

He was gunned down in a gated community, so it may very well still have happened
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The Admiral
09/06/17 3:57:23 PM
#49:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
Zimmerman attacked and murdered that kid, and CE rushed to condemn him because he was black and defended himself


Actually I think CE was pro Trayvon at first before the facts came out

Lol, what facts? You follow someone, you brandish a gun, the person defends himself, and you pop him. Sounds like murder one to me.


The facts of Zimmerman being beaten in the face repeatedly by Trayvon before Zimmerman reached for his gun

These are pics of Zimmerman taken by the police the night of the incident

EJobWuD


I am someone who was initially pro Trayvon but then switched to pro Zimmerman after the facts came out.

He has a nosebleed and a small cut on his head, which he could have sustained by hitting his head on the door of his car while leaving it too quickly to sate his vigilante boner.


When you're at the point where the only defense you can raise is conspiracy theories, it's time to raise the white flag and pack it in.
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EbonTitanium
09/06/17 3:57:51 PM
#50:


LethalAffinity posted...
Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son is still one of the most absurd things he said.

Gimme a break. Your son would have gone to a private school and lived in a gated community, Barry.

Class divides folks more than race imo.

You really don't get it, do you?
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