Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XIX: Discussion Topic Part 2 [smfffc]

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Mobilezoid
09/19/17 10:53:37 PM
#276:


I also forgot to mention earlier that I finished Dad of Light, thus fulfilling my end of the bargain. It was okay at times and not great at others.

voltch posted...
There's a lot of references I think will go over people's head because they rely on Japanese pop culture that isn't anime or games ( though there's a few of those too)

The more eps I watch, the less the game gets interesting and the more engaging the workforce stuff gets.

I'm guessing that first part is true because I felt literally the opposite about the game/work stuff in Dad of Light. The workplace stuff was awful and distracted from the main plot way too much. Like, the whole FFXIV plotline felt like the B plot that bolstered the A plot of his work life. It should've been the other way around
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LeonhartFour
09/20/17 9:42:05 PM
#277:


LeonhartFour posted...
67. ANTESTATS

CXI - 26/75
CXII - 34/75
CXIII - 41/75
CXIV - 28/102
CXV - 54/100
CXVI - 79/100 (Booted)
CXVIII - 65/100
CXIX - 67/100

It somehow took Setzer until CXI to make his debut, and he really hasn't done much. He's come close to a top 25 finish a couple of times, but everything else is somewhere near the middle except for his one boot a few contests ago. Unsurprisingly, Setzer's STATS are also middling. With this performance, he drops a bit from 49.69% to 47.73%, falling past Ultros, Steiner, Sabin, Dr. Cid, Jecht, and Black Mage to land at 50th place.

Setzer's New Era STATS are a little worse because he doesn't get the benefit of his best finish in there. He slides a little from 44.63% to 42.51%, getting passed up by Eiko and Ultros and stopping at 60th place.

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GenesisSaga
09/21/17 10:29:59 AM
#278:


-FFDragon- posted...
raytan was host, never got a Terra win, resorted to alts to push characters

I host, one of my least favorite characters wins

Leon hosts, squall does worse

Host advantage not all it's cracked up to be

Which was the borderline least favorite character?
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 11:33:27 AM
#279:


Presumably Tidus because he likes Zack and I've never heard him voice any issues with Rydia.
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 11:35:37 AM
#280:


I legit forgot Tidus even won

Everything after Marche is kind of a blur in my memory, honestly
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GenesisSaga
09/21/17 11:49:45 AM
#281:


Huh. Well sucks for him I guess, but that was pretty much the best smific ever. Good times...
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Gatarix
09/21/17 11:54:20 AM
#282:


marche was definitely the best smfffc ever

it had everything: scandal, violent coup, anarchy, lots of fanart
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 11:55:09 AM
#283:


We missed a chance to have the best SMFFFC ever, and we might never get it back.

Oh well.
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mnkboy907
09/21/17 11:57:55 AM
#284:


Last year's final was the dream final I dunno what you're all on about.
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 11:58:34 AM
#285:


hey so if vivi is the only two time winner, but gilgamesh beat vivi does that mean gilgamesh is actually the best

something to think about
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 11:59:07 AM
#286:


definitely something to think about when you're trying to make sure he doesn't get soft booted next year
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 12:02:03 PM
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GenesisSaga
09/21/17 12:04:17 PM
#288:


Didn't Gilgamesh just get soft booted? I think his finals appearance speaks more to FFD's alliance strength than it does to the character's.

Also Leon while the final you're referring to might've been the best for you it was maybe top 5 best potential final of that particular contest for me, by which I mean of all characters that had a push that year Squall vs. Tidus would be maybe 4th best. Like.... I dunno 15th best final overall.

Actual best final would be Tidus v. Balthier, which is obviously never going to happen ever. Of finals that could conceivably occur with the right backing some combo of Yuna, Cloud, and Sephiroth would be the most desirable to me.
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:05:07 PM
#289:


That's just a "your favorite characters in a final" final. The best finals would be one with drama and tension and an extremely close vote that pulls in a lot of casual voting so it's unpredictable.
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 12:06:17 PM
#290:


first off, I think it was pretty clear I was being sarcastic

second

GenesisSaga posted...
I think his finals appearance speaks more to FFD's alliance strength


wow I can't even get credit for my own character anymore
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VeryInsane
09/21/17 12:06:29 PM
#291:


Cloud vs Squall would be interesting
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 12:06:55 PM
#292:


Squall/Zack is still the best final we've ever had when taking into account the quality of the two characters in it.

Last year's was pretty good, too, actually. We just can't seem to get the right winners.
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GenesisSaga
09/21/17 12:07:13 PM
#293:


Cloud vs. Sephiroth wouldn't be my favorite characters in a final! You've got me on the rest though. CvS would hand most of those qualifications too, just no drama (hopefully).
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Bane_Of_Despair
09/21/17 12:07:55 PM
#294:


Vivi/Locke was a close vote, just sayin
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:08:11 PM
#295:


Honestly, Lightning vs. Tifa would be an interesting finals. Could see it going either way, and it also has the potential to be very close.
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:09:10 PM
#296:


GenesisSaga posted...
just no drama (hopefully).

Drama is not a bad thing. You're just used to drama being spun negatively. Drama just means that it piques emotionally and heightens your investment in a situation.
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Espeon
09/21/17 12:09:36 PM
#297:


Contests 3, 6, 7, and crowning glory 8 are the overall highest quality finals.
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GenesisSaga
09/21/17 12:10:06 PM
#298:


The Mana Sword posted...
first off, I think it was pretty clear I was being sarcastic

second

GenesisSaga posted...
I think his finals appearance speaks more to FFD's alliance strength


wow I can't even get credit for my own character anymore

Wasn't Zellgamesh literally a thing? Pray tell, who's name appears first in that?

(I too am being sarcastic now)

But seriously didn't Zell and Mesh victories essentially happen back to back because of cross-iteration contest alliances? I wouldn't know those contests predate my history on the board.
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 12:12:01 PM
#299:


FFD and I were the only ones with an actual trade agreement, Zell and Gilgamesh had pretty different core savers.
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 12:12:11 PM
#300:


VeryInsane posted...
Cloud vs Squall would be interesting


it would be super great and I would be all for it because they're two of my favorites and they both deserve to win so I could be happy even if Cloud won

hard to imagine a scenario where that happens though
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FFDragon
09/21/17 12:12:44 PM
#301:


i mean it was basically just me and nex going "we'll save each other's character and whichever one goes out first we rally behind the other. okay zell won now we can rally behind gilgamesh"

only with a lot more propaganda. it was always just the two of us, we never had a steiner army kind of thing.
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 12:13:25 PM
#302:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Honestly, Lightning vs. Tifa would be an interesting finals. Could see it going either way, and it also has the potential to be very close.


hey if you want to help push Tifa so we can find out I would welcome you to the cause
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FFDragon
09/21/17 12:13:37 PM
#303:


oh okay beat me to it

but yeah back in the day they both had actual independent backings that have slowly dispersed since they won
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Espeon
09/21/17 12:13:41 PM
#304:


FFDragon posted...
i mean it was basically just me and nex going "we'll save each other's character and whichever one goes out first we rally behind the other. okay zell won now we can rally behind gilgamesh"

only with a lot more propaganda. it was always just the two of us, we never had a steiner army kind of thing.


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VeryInsane
09/21/17 12:14:02 PM
#305:


Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 12:14:12 PM
#306:


FFDragon posted...
oh okay beat me to it

but yeah back in the day they both had actual independent backings that have slowly dispersed since they won


bring back SSBM_Guy, LC11 and Harmonica imho
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LeonhartFour
09/21/17 12:15:19 PM
#307:


VeryInsane posted...
Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting


I guess it would be if we want to set a record for fewest votes in a final
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:15:31 PM
#308:


VeryInsane posted...
Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting

Statistically it would not be at all, which is what I'm talking about. Tifa is a stronger character in a casual base on Board 8.
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FFDragon
09/21/17 12:16:02 PM
#309:


if tifa made the finals vlado would probably vote in it

is that what you want

is it
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DoomTheGyarados
09/21/17 12:16:27 PM
#310:


FFDragon posted...
if tifa made the finals vlado would probably vote in it

is that what you want

is it


Actually... kind of.
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:17:02 PM
#311:


Vlado wouldn't vote because he is against globalist elections.
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The Mana Sword
09/21/17 12:17:52 PM
#312:


I'm actually pretty convinced Lightning would be able to win in a Lightning/Terra finals.

But I'm also not willing to take the risk of having Terra being crowned the winner of one of these things.
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FFDragon
09/21/17 12:17:54 PM
#313:


i think his love for polygon breasts outweighs his hatred of globalism
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:18:58 PM
#314:


If you put Globalist in the title, we might have an even closer race between the part of Vlado's brain that yearns for female interaction and the part that spurns the new world order.
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CelesMyUserName
09/21/17 12:19:02 PM
#315:


why are all these ideas of "interesting matches" about having unpopular characters in the finals


can't we just have a finals of strong characters
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:19:45 PM
#316:


Do we even know what is a legitimate show of strength anymore? The entire board has niche favorites or pushes niche interests; anything can be strong any given year.
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VeryInsane
09/21/17 12:19:57 PM
#317:


scarletspeed7 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting

Statistically it would not be at all, which is what I'm talking about. Tifa is a stronger character in a casual base on Board 8.


Yeah but Tifa would probably win head to head due to anti votes

Two anti voted characters or mixed characters would be interesting
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DoomTheGyarados
09/21/17 12:20:01 PM
#318:


CelesMyUserName posted...
why are all these ideas of "interesting matches" about having unpopular characters in the finals


can't we just have a finals of strong characters


I agree. It is time to crown the character highest in the stats to never reach a final.
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VeryInsane
09/21/17 12:24:45 PM
#319:


LeonhartFour posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting


I guess it would be if we want to set a record for fewest votes in a final


If we want the fewest possible we can do Layle vs Adelle
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CelesMyUserName
09/21/17 12:25:28 PM
#320:


VeryInsane posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Lightning vs Terra would be way more interesting


I guess it would be if we want to set a record for fewest votes in a final


If we want the fewest possible we can do Layle vs Adelle

I'm in
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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:25:44 PM
#321:


If you want the fewest ever, let MWC post it.
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VeryInsane
09/21/17 12:26:51 PM
#322:


MWC makes a new account every week people will see it
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CelesMyUserName
09/21/17 12:28:25 PM
#323:


if you want the most votes, take out the "no bribing votes" rule and notify MWC


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scarletspeed7
09/21/17 12:28:47 PM
#324:


Also it would say Cloud vs. Cloud [No LeChoke] in the title.
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swordz9
09/21/17 12:36:13 PM
#325:


So Lightning/Eiko guarantees me a Lightning win >_> <_<
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