Current Events > Penn Professor defends traditional values. 33 profs write letter condemning her.

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Newhopes posted...

What was in Africa before "whites" turned up oh ya it was already a s*** hole with a Slave trade that was already well established for well over a thousand years.

But no it's all the white peoples fault.

You know the interactions with African nations didn't stop with the slave trade right? You do know we literally deposed good rulers because they were not what the west needed right? You know companies like Shell help to kill people who wanted to get places back on the right track. And if we are speaking about the preslave trade most of the world was hell hole. compared today.
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Based on that article, the author offers no proof. She just makes statements that she offers as causation, people who agree will agree.

So why should her critics have to offer facts to debate her?
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cjsdowg posted...

Newhopes posted...

What was in Africa before "whites" turned up oh ya it was already a s*** hole with a Slave trade that was already well established for well over a thousand years.

But no it's all the white peoples fault.

You know the interactions with African nations didn't stop with the slave trade right? You do know we literally deposed good rulers because they were not what the west needed right? You know companies like Shell help to kill people who wanted to get places back on the right track. And if we are speaking about the preslave trade most of the world was hell hole. compared today.

So ffing what that was 200+ years ago who destroyed the slave trade was it the Muslims nope was it the Indian's nope it was white people.

Why don't you hold the largest slaves trader in the world the Muslims to the same standards you hold whites, oh thats right you're a bigot from a disgusting ideology that hell bent on destroying the west.

Newhopes posted...

So ffing what that was 200+ years ago who destroyed the slave trade was it the Muslims nope was it the Indian's nope it was white people.

Why don't you hold the largest slaves trader in the world the Muslims to the same standards you hold whites, oh thats right you're a bigot from a disgusting ideology that hell bent on destroying the west.

LOL I am a bigot for pointing out the bad thing that the West have done to Africa and other places. Note Muslim is not talking about how great her society while complaining about everyone else in this topic. So why in the fuck would I address them right here ?
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It's true that the US has kept down potentially good leaders/governments for its own gain. But would you rather live in the US or in one of the countries that has been sabotaged by it?
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I only disagree with: staying with someone solely because of kids even if you despise the SO.

This was the only thing I took issue with as well, but for different reasons. Your kids should be second to your spouse. You want to stay together not just for their sake.
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The op-ed the professor wrote sounded like typical right wing stuff you'd hear from a Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly type. I don't know why it's causing outrage.

I don't agree with much of it. I agree that the fact that the single parenting rate has gone up has had a negative effect on things like education, also that education in general has become really shitty, but I don't think it's because society abandoned some better culture we had in the 40s - 60s. And respect for authority is not the problem right now in a society where the federal government regularly abuses its OWN authority (with stuff like the NSA and mass surveillance), along with police brutality. We need people speaking out against authority.

We have problems, but this woman doesn't blame the right issues for them. But all the SJWs who freaked out about this op-ed are being silly too, this is just some silly right-wing social conservative stuff you hear all the time if you listen to those Rick Santorum types of Republicans.
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Well, ya know, Penn was always sort of a joke of an Ivy.
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Axiom posted...

Nothing wrong with what she did. Nothing wrong with what they did either

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lilORANG posted...

Well, ya know, Penn was always sort of a joke of an Ivy.

You misspelled Brown.
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The Admiral posted...

lilORANG posted...

Well, ya know, Penn was always sort of a joke of an Ivy.

You misspelled Brown.

Brown at least got a nod in Sister Sister. Penn is just like....."oh that rapey football coach school...? Oh, the other Penn that's not nearly as famous or as fun to party at. OK."
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Callixtus posted...

You have to think they do.

That's normal. Thinking an average person thinks "I just want America to be destroyed." Nobody thinks like this.
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lilORANG posted...

The Admiral posted...

lilORANG posted...

Well, ya know, Penn was always sort of a joke of an Ivy.

You misspelled Brown.

Brown at least got a nod in Sister Sister. Penn is just like....."oh that rapey football coach school...? Oh, the other Penn that's not nearly as famous or as fun to party at. OK."

Penn is a joke school because idiots don't know the difference between it and Penn State?

A+ logic
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some ideas are so shitty that they don't even merit being debunked. that prof's letter contained nothing of value, and addressing it with co9nter arguments would have legitimized it too much
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The Admiral posted...

lilORANG posted...

The Admiral posted...

lilORANG posted...

Well, ya know, Penn was always sort of a joke of an Ivy.

You misspelled Brown.

Brown at least got a nod in Sister Sister. Penn is just like....."oh that rapey football coach school...? Oh, the other Penn that's not nearly as famous or as fun to party at. OK."

Penn is a joke school because idiots don't know the difference between it and Penn State?

A+ logic

did you go to Penn or something lol.
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lilORANG posted...

did you go to Penn or something lol.

No, but I've spent enough time there to know that everything you mentioned was incorrect. I was expecting you to say it was a joke school because Trump went there, not because uneducated people confuse it with a football school.
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All I said is that it was the joke of the ivies, which is not incorrect so whatever lol.
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Wait, I thought universities were literal daycares where kids just go and color and pet dogs in their safespaces, Admiral?
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COVxy posted...

Wait, I thought universities were literal daycares where kids just go and color and pet dogs in their safespaces, Admiral?

Only if people like you had your way.

Anyway, Penn and Harvard are the only two Ivies that haven't embarrassed themselves with one of these absurd SJW scandals, to my knowledge. And in Penn's case that's likely because the business school is the most powerful institution on campus and overshadows the other departments.
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Yeah she's definitely wrong on the whole European/Anglo-American values are superior. Dead wrong.

As for the Africa talk, Africa birthed damn near everything. It had empires, gold, scientific societies, innovation, etc. It was destroyed and held down by the efforts of Western Civilization. Colonization demolished Africa as well as other parts of the world and is and will always be a net negative.
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The Admiral posted...

Only if people like you had your way.

No, you literally claimed this. You can't have the gimmick both ways, you can't be up and ready to defend a university because Trump attended it, while at the same time saying that universities are a joke.
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Knowledge_King posted...

As for the Africa talk, Africa birthed damn near everything. It had empires, gold, scientific societies, innovation, etc. It was destroyed and held down by the efforts of Western Civilization. Colonization demolished Africa as well as other parts of the world and is and will always be a net negative.

Don't you know, these societies have had a TON of time to recover and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

You know, all of 50 years and stuff of after being gutted and repeatedly drained and split up by outside influences.
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COVxy posted...

No, you literally claimed this. You can't have the gimmick both ways, you can't be up and ready to defend a university because Trump attended it, while at the same time saying that universities are a joke.

Dude, it's the Admiral. His only consistency is "SCREW YOU LIBERALS" and "but what about Muslims/BLM/Antifa/Hillary". You should EXPECT that response now
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Why is "go the extra mile for your employer" a virtue? Employment is a simple transaction. You pay me to do a job, I do that job. Why am I expected to do more than my job, lining someone else's pockets, but not be paid more than my wage?
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You should only go the extra mile at work when there's a benefit to it.
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COVxy posted...

The Admiral posted...

Only if people like you had your way.

No, you literally claimed this. You can't have the gimmick both ways, you can't be up and ready to defend a university because Trump attended it, while at the same time saying that universities are a joke.

Sure I can. I can criticize the absurd SJW mindset that exists at colleges and is encouraged by people like you white simultaneously acknowledging that not all college administrators are pussies who allow it to permeate the campuses. Some of them do a decent job of containing it (like Penn), others are a fucking joke (like Evergreen).
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CircleOfManias posted...

Why is "go the extra mile for your employer" a virtue? Employment is a simple transaction. You pay me to do a job, I do that job. Why am I expected to do more than my job, lining someone else's pockets, but not be paid more than my wage?

Then it's OK if they promote someone who works just a little bit harder than you, right? Or are you going to complain that someone else got promoted instead of you?
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I can't believe I got modded for agreeing with most of what she said. Pathetic.
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The Admiral posted...

COVxy posted...

The Admiral posted...

Only if people like you had your way.

No, you literally claimed this. You can't have the gimmick both ways, you can't be up and ready to defend a university because Trump attended it, while at the same time saying that universities are a joke.

Sure I can. I can criticize the absurd SJW mindset that exists at colleges and is encouraged by people like you white simultaneously acknowledging that not all college administrators are pussies who allow it to permeate the campuses. Some of them do a decent job of containing it (like Penn), others are a fucking joke (like Evergreen).

People like me?
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