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Corrik
09/03/17 5:21:21 PM
#1:


http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/some-nintendo-switch-games-will-require-memory-cards

Needing memory cards to play games lmfao.
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StealThisSheen
09/03/17 5:32:09 PM
#2:


To be fair, I don't think there's been a console yet that hasn't been greatly improved by additional storage space.

EDIT: This isn't to defend Nintendo, who started criminally low on built in storage. Just saying the concept of "memory cards" never really went away.
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Corrik
09/03/17 5:43:11 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
To be fair, I don't think there's been a console yet that hasn't been greatly improved by additional storage space.

EDIT: This isn't to defend Nintendo, who started criminally low on built in storage. Just saying the concept of "memory cards" never really went away.

I can't remember a console that required memory cards to play games fully. Maybe save games. Not to play them. Hell, I remember leaving my ps1 on for weeks straight to finish ff7. Lol
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SgtSphynx
09/03/17 5:44:18 PM
#4:


VITA
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Kenri
09/03/17 5:47:16 PM
#5:


Tons and tons of games require storage to play. It's just usually internal, and there's plenty of it to start with.
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StealThisSheen
09/03/17 5:50:23 PM
#6:


Corrik posted...
I can't remember a console that required memory cards to play games fully.


Vita, as mentioned. And every system requires some type of storage to play. Other systems are just better than Switch when it comes to internal storage. But if you fill that up, you can't play any new games until you either delete something or add more storage.
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Corrik
09/03/17 5:54:14 PM
#7:


Kenri posted...
Tons and tons of games require storage to play. It's just usually internal, and there's plenty of it to start with.

Hence why I said memory cards.

Only other things I can think of is the N64 expansion card and 32x for genesis.
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Corrik
09/03/17 5:55:14 PM
#8:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
I can't remember a console that required memory cards to play games fully.


Vita, as mentioned. And every system requires some type of storage to play. Other systems are just better than Switch when it comes to internal storage. But if you fill that up, you can't play any new games until you either delete something or add more storage.



That's not what this is referring to. You literally cannot play the full game at all without a memory card. Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.
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paperwarior
09/03/17 5:56:48 PM
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At least it's MicroSD and not some proprietary nonsense. The cost is nearly negligible.
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StealThisSheen
09/03/17 7:51:46 PM
#10:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
I can't remember a console that required memory cards to play games fully.


Vita, as mentioned. And every system requires some type of storage to play. Other systems are just better than Switch when it comes to internal storage. But if you fill that up, you can't play any new games until you either delete something or add more storage.



That's not what this is referring to. You literally cannot play the full game at all without a memory card. Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.


Yes it does.

You need a memory card only because the Switch does not have enough internal storage for the downloads/install. It's not a case of some kind of "This HAS to have a memory card and can't use internal storage" case. It's just that the Switch doesn't have enough storage normally. It's the exact same case as "running out of space," except it's because the Switch never had enough space to begin with. The games in question are too big. If the Switch came with like, 500gb like it should've, there'd be no memory card required.
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Corrik
09/03/17 8:06:32 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
I can't remember a console that required memory cards to play games fully.


Vita, as mentioned. And every system requires some type of storage to play. Other systems are just better than Switch when it comes to internal storage. But if you fill that up, you can't play any new games until you either delete something or add more storage.



That's not what this is referring to. You literally cannot play the full game at all without a memory card. Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.


Yes it does.

You need a memory card only because the Switch does not have enough internal storage for the downloads/install. It's not a case of some kind of "This HAS to have a memory card and can't use internal storage" case. It's just that the Switch doesn't have enough storage normally. It's the exact same case as "running out of space," except it's because the Switch never had enough space to begin with. The games in question are too big. If the Switch came with like, 500gb like it should've, there'd be no memory card required.

I am really concerned that you are either just trying to argue to argue or are trying to say something I am saying the same in another way to try and be right.
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-hotdogturtle--
09/03/17 8:52:40 PM
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Corrik posted...
That's not what this is referring to. You literally cannot play the full game at all without a memory card. Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.

The article even says that it's due to space issues. You're making it sound like "the game will not let you play it unless it detects a memory card physically in your system". What's actually happening is "the game requires X amount of space in order to access all content, and this X space comes from a memory card because the Switch does not have X on its own".
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Corrik
09/03/17 9:01:56 PM
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Corrik posted...
That's not what this is referring to. You literally cannot play the full game at all without a memory card. Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.

The article even says that it's due to space issues. You're making it sound like "the game will not let you play it unless it detects a memory card physically in your system". What's actually happening is "the game requires X amount of space in order to access all content, and this X space comes from a memory card because the Switch does not have X on its own".

I feel like you are arguing to argue. Or trying to say the same thing as I am in another way.

The system literally cannot play some of the games fully on the system that they come out on without a memory card.

I can't think of any system where that is the case. Maybe with N64's expansion slot? = /
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VeryInsane
09/03/17 9:05:01 PM
#14:


Corrik saying someone else is arguing to argue feels really ironic

This topic reminds me I need to get an external for my PS4
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Kenri
09/03/17 9:08:42 PM
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I just tested it and my 3DS wouldn't boot a game without an SD card in it.
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Corrik
09/03/17 9:12:21 PM
#16:


Kenri posted...
I just tested it and my 3DS wouldn't boot a game without an SD card in it.

Not a console. = /
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Corrik
09/03/17 9:12:46 PM
#17:


VeryInsane posted...
Corrik saying someone else is arguing to argue feels really ironic

This topic reminds me I need to get an external for my PS4

You can swap out internals in ps4 right?
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5tarscream
09/03/17 9:15:10 PM
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-hotdogturtle--
09/03/17 9:19:18 PM
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Corrik posted...
The system literally cannot play some of the games fully on the system that they come out on without a memory card.

This sentence as written is literally correct and nobody here is arguing against it. But for some reason you keep denying the REASON why this is the case, which is because the memory card provides the mandatory storage space that the game requires.

From the article:
Nintendo noted that "a microSD card will be needed for certain Nintendo Switch games that contain an especially large amount of content and require additional storage for players to enjoy the full experience."

Corrik posted...
Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.

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StealThisSheen
09/03/17 9:20:47 PM
#20:


Corrik posted...
I can't think of any system where that is the case. Maybe with N64's expansion slot? = /


It's basically a case of Nintendo not catching up with the times fast enough. This game wouldn't have worked on the original 360 without a memory card, either... But it wasn't a problem back then. What was fine back then isn't fine now, though, and Nintendo didn't seem to get the memo.

Granted, MicroSD cards are dirt cheap, so it's not a huge issue. If this was Sony, it'd be a major problem because of their shitty, overpriced proprietary cards.
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Grand Kirby
09/03/17 9:28:34 PM
#21:


Why wouldn't you have a MicroSD card for your switch anyway?
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LusterSoldier
09/03/17 9:40:34 PM
#22:


I already bought a microSD card that I plan to use for my Switch, whenever I get around to buying a Switch. So I'm already ahead of the times here.
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Corrik
09/03/17 9:43:39 PM
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Corrik posted...
The system literally cannot play some of the games fully on the system that they come out on without a memory card.

This sentence as written is literally correct and nobody here is arguing against it. But for some reason you keep denying the REASON why this is the case, which is because the memory card provides the mandatory storage space that the game requires.

From the article:
Nintendo noted that "a microSD card will be needed for certain Nintendo Switch games that contain an especially large amount of content and require additional storage for players to enjoy the full experience."

Corrik posted...
Has NOTHING to do with running out of space.

It is not running out of space if you never had the space to begin with. That's why I feel you are trying to argue the same thing in an argumentative way. Someone has compared running out of space on an xbox 1 or so after you have 10 games downloaded. That is not a fair or apt comparison at all.
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-hotdogturtle--
09/03/17 10:16:07 PM
#24:


Corrik posted...
It is not running out of space if you never had the space to begin with.

But that's... what everyone else also said. No one else was even debating this point.
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StealThisSheen
09/03/17 11:40:28 PM
#25:


Corrik posted...
It is not running out of space if you never had the space to begin with. That's why I feel you are trying to argue the same thing in an argumentative way. Someone has compared running out of space on an xbox 1 or so after you have 10 games downloaded. That is not a fair or apt comparison at all.


Eh, it's not entirely fair to put it that way, since that's kinda suggesting the Switch doesn't have ANY internal storage space on it. It does, and can hold atleast a few games. This is just a case where the game happens to require more download and install space than the internal storage provides, which is likely to be a rare case.
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Corrik
09/04/17 1:15:23 AM
#26:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
It is not running out of space if you never had the space to begin with. That's why I feel you are trying to argue the same thing in an argumentative way. Someone has compared running out of space on an xbox 1 or so after you have 10 games downloaded. That is not a fair or apt comparison at all.


Eh, it's not entirely fair to put it that way, since that's kinda suggesting the Switch doesn't have ANY internal storage space on it. It does, and can hold atleast a few games. This is just a case where the game happens to require more download and install space than the internal storage provides, which is likely to be a rare case.

If nba 2k18 can't do it, it is not gonna be a rare case if they expect to get third party titles like the other consoles
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StealThisSheen
09/04/17 2:30:53 AM
#27:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
It is not running out of space if you never had the space to begin with. That's why I feel you are trying to argue the same thing in an argumentative way. Someone has compared running out of space on an xbox 1 or so after you have 10 games downloaded. That is not a fair or apt comparison at all.


Eh, it's not entirely fair to put it that way, since that's kinda suggesting the Switch doesn't have ANY internal storage space on it. It does, and can hold atleast a few games. This is just a case where the game happens to require more download and install space than the internal storage provides, which is likely to be a rare case.

If nba 2k18 can't do it, it is not gonna be a rare case if they expect to get third party titles like the other consoles


Eh, not necessarily. NBA 2K is one of the biggest games, size-wise.

NBA 2K18 for Xbox One/PS4 is 45 GB, for instance. On Switch, it's 25.

Most other big games are around 35 or less, which... Assuming the same rate of conversion, would end up 20 or less on Switch, which the Switch can handle.

Obviously, that's not perfect. But the NBA 2K series is one of the biggest, install size-wise, by far, and most games don't go near it.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/17 6:03:21 AM
#28:


LusterSoldier posted...
I already bought a microSD card that I plan to use for my Switch, whenever I get around to buying a Switch. So I'm already ahead of the times here.


You are actually behind the times because the Switch is out and you don't have it yet.
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LusterSoldier
09/04/17 6:57:53 AM
#29:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
You are actually behind the times because the Switch is out and you don't have it yet.


Well, it's still pretty hard to find on store shelves. Hoping it will become a bit easier in about a month or two, but before the Christmas shopping season begins to pick up steam.
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WhoopsyDaisy
09/04/17 10:03:21 AM
#30:


Corrik posted...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/some-nintendo-switch-games-will-require-memory-cards

Needing memory cards to play games lmfao.


This is a comment on the games, not the system. You can make an XBOne or PS4 game that requires a memory card to play if you make it require terabytes of storage. They're just saying that some games are big.
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Corrik
09/04/17 11:21:15 AM
#31:


WhoopsyDaisy posted...
Corrik posted...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/some-nintendo-switch-games-will-require-memory-cards

Needing memory cards to play games lmfao.


This is a comment on the games, not the system. You can make an XBOne or PS4 game that requires a memory card to play if you make it require terabytes of storage. They're just saying that some games are big.

There is games like 130gbs on x1 and ps4
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StealThisSheen
09/04/17 1:11:42 PM
#32:


Corrik posted...
WhoopsyDaisy posted...
Corrik posted...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/some-nintendo-switch-games-will-require-memory-cards

Needing memory cards to play games lmfao.


This is a comment on the games, not the system. You can make an XBOne or PS4 game that requires a memory card to play if you make it require terabytes of storage. They're just saying that some games are big.

There is games like 130gbs on x1 and ps4


Which? I'm finding the CoD games hitting 90-100, but that's with all of the DLC. It's just a 44gb install.
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Corrik
09/04/17 2:23:13 PM
#33:


Gears Of War 4. 116.77GB. 10/10/16

Sure one had to of been higher since that... = /

Either way close enough
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StealThisSheen
09/04/17 2:54:45 PM
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That's including all of the DLC/updates, though.

Granted, it was 80gb when it first came out, so close enough.

That's not really the norm, though.
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