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Damn_Underscore
09/02/17 11:33:02 PM
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Did Disney ruin Star Wars?



Did Disney ruin Star Wars?
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TheDarkCircle
09/02/17 11:33:09 PM
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No
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Fossil
09/02/17 11:34:39 PM
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They did when they gave EA exclusive rights to SW games.
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Offworlder1
09/02/17 11:37:55 PM
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Yes, and they also gave EA exclusive rights to Star Wars games.
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CarlGrimes
09/02/17 11:38:03 PM
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They ruined the EU.
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TheDarkCircle
09/02/17 11:38:35 PM
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CarlGrimes posted...
They ruined the EU.


lol no yuuzhan vong did
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Gamer99z
09/02/17 11:39:05 PM
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George Lucas did that himself. There was nowhere to go but up.
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boxington
09/02/17 11:39:38 PM
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nah, TFA and Rogue One were great.
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Hexenherz
09/02/17 11:42:08 PM
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Star Wars was already kind of ruined imo. It's not going up, either - TFA was a lackluster action movie/shameless cash grab.
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UncleBourbon33
09/02/17 11:42:58 PM
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TFA was politically correct crap.
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stoltenberg11
09/02/17 11:43:12 PM
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Jury is still out. We'll have a much better sample this December.
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AlisLandale
09/02/17 11:43:17 PM
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They didn't make it any worse than the Prequel Era already made it. But they haven't really done anything good besides Rogue One.

TFA was a "good" movie, but it was also super boring. Prequels were bad, but they at least told an interesting story that others could run with. TFA gave us Empire 2, featuring Death Star 3.
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ColdOne666
09/04/17 8:20:56 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
They didn't make it any worse than the Prequel Era already made it. But they haven't really done anything good besides Rogue One.

TFA was a "good" movie, but it was also super boring. Prequels were bad, but they at least told an interesting story that others could run with. TFA gave us Empire 2, featuring Death Star 3.


Rogue One is the worst Star Wars movie yet, it was just a generic action movie.
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Flasbangs
09/04/17 8:27:36 AM
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Eh, at this point they are just polishing a turd. Star Wars died long ago.
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Lorenzo_2003
09/04/17 8:36:19 AM
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It's Disney. Their biggest claims to fame are theme parks aimed at children and animated movies and toys to promote those movies, and vice versa. I wouldn't say Disney ruined Star Wars (they can throw absurd amounts of money and marketing at both franchises), but everyone should know what we're getting with this union. Star Wars is just Disney's new platform for featuring more princesses, but in space. That is a good thing in its own way.
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CmndrHurricane
09/04/17 8:36:44 AM
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on one hand they canceled Clone Wars

on the other they made Rouge One and Rebels (rebels is of course inferior to CW, but it gets good around S2)
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Doom_Art
09/04/17 8:42:16 AM
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No they made it better

Seriously before they bought Star Wars it was p much dead or at least in stasis.
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wah_wah_wah
09/04/17 8:46:11 AM
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Star Wars was ruined when it stopped being about the movies themselves and started being about everything outside of the theater (toys, video games, Death Star bath mats, etc.) That happened long before Disney bought it, and before the prequels even. The rot set in when Jedi was released. Jedi was still a good movie, but creative decisions were made to make it easier to market toys to children and not because it would be good cinema.
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Hexenherz
09/04/17 8:49:25 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
No they made it better

Seriously before they bought Star Wars it was p much dead or at least in stasis.

It was fine, there was a fair amount of material being released across different media.
Now everything is Star Wars.
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Doom_Art
09/04/17 8:51:11 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
Now everything is Star Wars.

I know, it's great isn't it?
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PoopPotato
09/04/17 8:54:56 AM
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OrangeCrush980
09/04/17 9:03:04 AM
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Episode 7 was meh. Maybe it will lead to something better though.

Rouge One was steaming garbage.
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Skye Reynolds
09/04/17 9:31:47 AM
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They salvaged it.
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SorenTheSage
09/04/17 9:34:18 AM
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The only good thing that Disney has done with Star Wars is Star Tours.
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Skye Reynolds
09/04/17 9:36:06 AM
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SorenTheSage posted...
The only good thing that Disney has done with Star Wars is Star Tours.


They cushioned the blow when it came to Anakin Skywalker. Darth Vader will never again be as cool as he was before the prequels came out, but having another whiny Sith Lord makes Vader's Anakin days less of an embarrassment. It was the best thing they could have done for him.
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Kitt
09/04/17 9:37:36 AM
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Imo TFA and Rogue One are the best films in the franchise so far and I'm actually interested in what's going to unfold in the upcoming movies. So, to me, they made them better.
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K181
09/04/17 9:37:56 AM
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Please. Force Awakens and Rogue One were both great and, at the very least, a lot of fun whereas the past three (well, four, including Clone Wars) movies were crap (including Revenge of the Sith, which was just less crap by comparison to the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, but was still quite bad).

Star Wars is fun again. Even if you don't think that the past two entries were great, I can't for the life of me understand how anybody couldn't appreciate the new direction they're taking the films and the breath of vitality that they've received.

And the EU was overall trash. There were a handful of gems in there, but you don't save a gangrenous arm just because the pinky's okay.
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Romulox28
09/04/17 9:40:06 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Star Wars was ruined when it stopped being about the movies themselves and started being about everything outside of the theater (toys, video games, Death Star bath mats, etc.) That happened long before Disney bought it, and before the prequels even. The rot set in when Jedi was released. Jedi was still a good movie, but creative decisions were made to make it easier to market toys to children and not because it would be good cinema.

how are you going to sit here and say that Empire Strikes Back is trash?
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wah_wah_wah
09/04/17 9:52:17 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Star Wars was ruined when it stopped being about the movies themselves and started being about everything outside of the theater (toys, video games, Death Star bath mats, etc.) That happened long before Disney bought it, and before the prequels even. The rot set in when Jedi was released. Jedi was still a good movie, but creative decisions were made to make it easier to market toys to children and not because it would be good cinema.

how are you going to sit here and say that Empire Strikes Back is trash?

Jedi was after Empire Strikes Back.
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Sharpie
09/04/17 10:01:53 AM
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never seen a star wars movie until a few days ago. started with the george lucas recommended viewing order and watched phantom menace

literally one of the worst pieces of shit i've ever seen and attack of the clones is supposed to be similar? why do man children like this crap? dialogue is cringey and the action was terrible
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wah_wah_wah
09/04/17 10:03:09 AM
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Sharpie posted...
never seen a star wars movie until a few days ago. started with the george lucas recommended viewing order and watched phantom menace

literally one of the worst pieces of shit i've ever seen and attack of the clones is supposed to be similar? why do man children like this crap? dialogue is cringey and the action was terrible

Just ignore that shit and watch the original ones 4, 5 and 6. You might not like those ones either but they at least try to be movies.
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Sharpie
09/04/17 10:13:06 AM
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i want to watch them, i want to like star wars because i was under the impression the lore and quality was similar to lord of the rings, but i just don't think it's there, lol
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Romulox28
09/04/17 10:16:18 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Romulox28 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Star Wars was ruined when it stopped being about the movies themselves and started being about everything outside of the theater (toys, video games, Death Star bath mats, etc.) That happened long before Disney bought it, and before the prequels even. The rot set in when Jedi was released. Jedi was still a good movie, but creative decisions were made to make it easier to market toys to children and not because it would be good cinema.

how are you going to sit here and say that Empire Strikes Back is trash?

Jedi was after Empire Strikes Back.

merchandising was a major element of star wars directly after the success of the first one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_(film)#Merchandising
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wah_wah_wah
09/04/17 10:17:35 AM
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The prequels suck and were made years later to cash in. Your first mistake was taking recommendations from George Lucas. He basically had nothing to do with the original trilogy besides being an executive producer. And they're better movies because of it.
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mario masta
09/04/17 10:21:19 AM
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TWA was a good movie when viewed in a vacuum but in reality it's basically a remake of A New Hope.

Rogue One was far better though imo.
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Xelltrix
09/04/17 10:23:31 AM
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A lightsaber keyblade is now an actual possibility so all Disney did was make the universe awesome.
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wah_wah_wah
09/04/17 10:24:46 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Romulox28 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Star Wars was ruined when it stopped being about the movies themselves and started being about everything outside of the theater (toys, video games, Death Star bath mats, etc.) That happened long before Disney bought it, and before the prequels even. The rot set in when Jedi was released. Jedi was still a good movie, but creative decisions were made to make it easier to market toys to children and not because it would be good cinema.

how are you going to sit here and say that Empire Strikes Back is trash?

Jedi was after Empire Strikes Back.

merchandising was a major element of star wars directly after the success of the first one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_(film)#Merchandising

My point wasn't that there was never merchandising of Star Wars. The bold best summarizes my point. That characters started to get introduced into the story not because they were organic to it, but because they needed to set up toy sales. Ewoks being a big example of this from Jedi, but they also made other changes to make the movie more consumer friendly (like changing the plot so Han doesn't die). If you look at how the prequels were made, most of the characters and designs were done before George Lucas had even finished the script. Some of them were already made into toys before the movie was even finished. That's how bad it got.
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scar the 1
09/04/17 10:27:41 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
merchandising was a major element of star wars directly after the success of the first one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_(film)#Merchandising

And creative decisions were most clearly affected by toy potential when they went to a moon full of teddybears. Teddybears that beat Stormtroopers by throwing rocks at them.
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Lorenzo_2003
09/04/17 5:37:50 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
Romulox28 posted...
merchandising was a major element of star wars directly after the success of the first one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_(film)#Merchandising

And creative decisions were most clearly affected by toy potential when they went to a moon full of teddybears. Teddybears that beat Stormtroopers by throwing rocks at them.


I read somewhere that the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies, but that ended up not being really possible for various reasons. I don't know... it's been a while, so maybe some fan knows more about this.
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DarthAragorn
09/04/17 5:41:39 PM
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Lateral movement IMO

Movies are an upgrade in quality but the only video games released/detailed are a step down from what we got before, and the Thrawn Trilogy was a significantly better sequel trilogy than what we seem to be getting so far. But The Last Jedi could change my mind
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DonaldClinton
09/04/17 5:42:05 PM
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It's better now
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mustachedmystic
09/04/17 5:45:06 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
George Lucas did that himself.

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Mr_MacPhisto
09/04/17 5:50:43 PM
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I saw TFA on Imax opening night. It was so much fun. Rogue One was pretty decent too.

I like what they're doing with their theme parks too. Especially that rumor about them working on a Star Wars hotel like WestWorld where vacationers gets their own character story or something.

If it gets too shitty and saturated I'll just not watch the movies. Simple.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/04/17 5:52:01 PM
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Not yet, but they're working on it.
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stoltenberg11
09/04/17 7:25:56 PM
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CmndrHurricane posted...
on one hand they canceled Clone Wars

I hadn't heard this. Why'd they do it?
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Vertania
09/04/17 7:43:18 PM
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If they hadn't taken over, we probably would have gotten the prequel trilogy all over again.
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LethalAffinity
09/04/17 7:44:46 PM
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If The Last Jedi is creatively bankrupt then yes. It's worse.

Lets see some new ships and aliens. I'm tired of X-Wings, TIE fighters, and AT-ATs. Give us something new.
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Phantom_Nook
09/04/17 7:55:33 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
TFA was politically correct crap.

I agree, too many black people and girls.
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hockeybub89
09/04/17 7:58:10 PM
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I don't know how people in a post-prequel world can say Disney is ruining Star Wars.
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Wedge Antilles
09/04/17 7:59:06 PM
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Not really. Sucks that the EU is gone. While there was lots of bad stuff, there was just as much good to come out of it.

TFA was a mediocre movie but Rogue One was pretty damn good.
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