Current Events > GOP in six states have introduced bills legalizing running over protesters

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http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/House/PDF/H330v2.pdf

http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/65-2017/documents/17-0351-02000.pdf

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/110/Bill/SB0944.pdf

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2017/1096/BillText/Filed/HTML

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/851/billtext/html/HB00250I.htm

http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText17/HouseText17/H5690.pdf

Worth noting: with the exception of the North Dakota bill, these bills all specifically relate to running over protesters that are blocking streets. None are law, yet. But in NC the bill passed the house and is starting in the senate. I think TN also.
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Now we can run over Nazis!
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but shall not be immune from civil liability if the
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actions of the driver leading to the injury were willful or wanton
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Basically you're not going to be jailed or sued if your car gets mobbed and you hit someone bolting out of there.

Clearly the sky is falling.
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there's a joke to be made here. something about lifted redneck trucks versus liberal hippie hybrids and recumbent bicycles

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Basically you're not going to be jailed or sued if your car gets mobbed and you hit someone bolting out of there.

Fair, next
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At least Florida specifies that it must be unintentional, but it's still pretty fucked up
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Basically you're not going to be jailed or sued if your car gets mobbed and you hit someone bolting out of there.

Clearly the sky is falling.

my concern is the difficulty of proving such action was 'willful and wanton' beyond a reasonable doubt.

this is criminal law we're talking about, and one of the basic rules of the road is that as a driver, you've got much more responsibility/liability than pedestrians, which makes up for the fact that you're controlling a metal object that weighs a ton and they are not.
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Reminds me of this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-linked-to-surge-in-homicides_us_59946738e4b04b19336238c4

Reuters Health - Murders climbed 22 percent in Florida in the decade after the state enacted its `Stand Your Ground’ self-defense law, even after accounting for the expected spike in justifiable homicides, a new study suggests.

Before the law took effect in October 2005, Florida residents had a right to use lethal force when they felt their life was endangered by a home intruder. The `Stand Your Ground’ law extended this right beyond the home, justifying deadly force for self-defense in other situations.

On average, from 1999 to 2005, lawful homicides accounted for just 3.4 percent of all homicides in Florida. Between 2006 and 2015, the proportion of lawful homicides rose, accounting on average for 8.7 percent of homicides, researchers report in JAMA Internal Medicine.

People are going to misinterpret or otherwise abuse this law being proposed across all these states, and you're going to see homicide rates skyrocket again.
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Do you know what wanton means? That should alleviate your concerns.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Do you know what wanton means? That should alleviate your concerns.

I do. Legally, it may prove difficult to prove that an action was 'wanton'. What has worked well in the past is that the driver is liable unless there is evidence the pedestrian deliberately forced themselves into the path of travel in such a way as to prevent the driver from having any method of preventing the accident.
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For a sec I read it as pronstars......
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I understand the premise but the problem is the potential for misuse. White guy flees Antifa/BLM = necessary for safety. Black guy escapes KKK = unnecessary/wanton action against peaceful protestors. The timing of the bills doesn't have good optics at least. If it were enforced consistently then the law makes sense.
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That's not what happened in Charlottesville

Nice subtle racism

Were_Wyrm posted...

Now we can run over Nazis!

yeah!
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BootyGif posted...

That's not what happened in Charlottesville

Nice subtle racism

Not sure if this was addressing me, but I realize that in Charlottesville the driver deliberately ran over people. This isn't about Charlottesville, it's about the future of protests in general.

Don't randomly accuse people of racism, it's in poor taste.
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Teen Girl Squad posted...

I understand the premise but the problem is the potential for misuse. White guy flees Antifa/BLM = necessary for safety. Black guy escapes KKK = unnecessary/wanton action against peaceful protestors. The timing of the bills doesn't have good optics at least. If it were enforced consistently then the law makes sense.

Lmao
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Darkman124 posted...

BootyGif posted...

That's not what happened in Charlottesville

Nice subtle racism

Not sure if this was addressing me, but I realize that in Charlottesville the driver deliberately ran over people. This isn't about Charlottesville, it's about the future of protests in general.

Don't randomly accuse people of racism, it's in poor taste.

Not at you just to gop idiots

Teen Girl Squad posted...

I understand the premise but the problem is the potential for misuse. White guy flees Antifa/BLM = necessary for safety. Black guy escapes KKK = unnecessary/wanton action against peaceful protestors. The timing of the bills doesn't have good optics at least. If it were enforced consistently then the law makes sense.

In your example, you want neither to be prosecuted, right? If that's the case, why not add those protections, and at least hope* they're equality applied?

I mean fuck, you could apply this to any right, any law, any fucking thing. God damn.
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BootyGif posted...

Not at you just to gop idiots

Gotcha--I still don't really see anything racist in people's posts, and these bills were introduced before the Charlottesville murder.
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welp

What the Hell Rhode Island?

And seriously. These states are looking towards making what that man did to that girl legal under their state law.

What the fuck.
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Bloodychess posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Basically you're not going to be jailed or sued if your car gets mobbed and you hit someone bolting out of there.

Fair, next

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Sayoria posted...

What the Hell Rhode Island?

And seriously. These states are looking towards making what that man did to that girl legal under their state law.

What the fuck.

Gotta rally the base.
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The Tennessee one says July 1st 2017. Is this already in effect?
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glitteringfairy posted...

The Tennessee one says July 1st 2017. Is this already in effect?

no

it hasnt passed

it was introduced a while back but is very relevant to public dialogue now
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Good job Rhode Island.

Hopefully Mass follows suite.
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I can see how these laws can be "creatively interpreted" to legitimize the injuring or killing of "pesky" protesters. For example, drive slowly into a crowd, decree that they've become dangerously belligerent, then step on the pedal.
Reminds me of an old South Park episode...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3RJUMm-hd0
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this just seems like legislative hate

That doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Stop arguing legislation from emotion

I do not give a single shit what you're protesting. Get the hell out of the street. If you're blocking the traffic, especially if you're blocking the freeway which has happened before here in SoCal. Not only would I support a bill like this I would actively encourage people to run them over.
You're blocking traffic? You are a piece of shit human being deserving of being run over in ever single case no matter the cause.
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I hope you guys are ready for Civil War II
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glitteringfairy posted...

Bloodychess posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Basically you're not going to be jailed or sued if your car gets mobbed and you hit someone bolting out of there.

Fair, next

EternalDivide posted...

Not only would I support a bill like this I would actively encourage people to run them over.

I remember when GameFAQs didn't want the traffic of people like you.
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So are homeless people and people coming up to your car to mess with it also considered protestors? Because I'm pretty sure those are the larger problem.
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Paparazzi confirmed for dead
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Most of the "homeless" that hang out at offramps begging for money around here always have a smart phone, a dog, are clean and have nicer shoes on than I do. You get to recognize them when you see them often enough over the years.
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Twinmold posted...

EternalDivide posted...

Not only would I support a bill like this I would actively encourage people to run them over.

I remember when GameFAQs didn't want the traffic of people like you.

No you don't. Welcome to CE.

And fair, next. Get the hell out of the road you cavemen.
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i love how for some people blocking the road is treated on par with killing someone.
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Some people being Congress in this case.
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cjsdowg posted...

i love how for some people blocking the road is treated on par with killing someone.

A lot of assholes find it easy to dehumanize Democrats in order to justify their violence.
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Eh. I'm okay with legislation that protects drivers from criminal or civil penalty if happen to injure or kill protesters either accidentally or while escaping a hostile crowd.

Don't want to get hit by a car? Don't protest in the street.

That doesn't mean I think it's okay to seek out crowds on the sidewalk to run down or what have you.
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I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the fuck?
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cjsdowg posted...

i love how for some people blocking the road is treated on par with killing someone.

I love how people like you are willing to put people behind bars for the crime of accidentally hitting some dumbass who runs onto the freeway at night.

Let's also charge train drivers for murder when some stupid kid tries to beat the train across the tracks and gets plowed into.
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Mal are you off your meds again? Because literally no one said that.
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Bio1590 posted...

Mal are you off your meds again? Because literally no one said that.

Protecting drivers from vehicular assault charges because unhinged protesters aren't always visible in the middle of the road is exactly what this law is for, so anyone who has a problem with this clearly thinks that's not not ok, right?
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Why are republicans so intent on defending Neo Nazis?
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