Current Events > 18 year old killed Mom's abusive Boyfriend. Did he do the right thing?

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SuperVegito2487 08/17/17 7:58:39 AM #51:	ThePredominate posted... Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma? Yes i wouldnt say ethics and morals is an issue here Legallity however is. AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. Thats how ive heard it, although i dont agree with it. --- L.J.Gibbs: Rule 51: "Sometimes You're Wrong." <cite>SuperVegito2487 posted [p:884934764] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePredominate posted...</cite> <quote>Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma?</quote> Yes i wouldnt say ethics and morals is an issue here Legallity however is. AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. Thats how ive heard it, although i dont agree with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/17/17 8:04:28 AM #52:	NeoShadowhen posted... Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving. it's worth mentioning that this is not entirely true in the process of choking someone out you can easily crush their larynx by accident in so doing, even if you only choke them to unconsciousness, they may not resume breathing when you release them --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:884934886] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving. </quote> it's worth mentioning that this is not entirely true in the process of choking someone out you can easily crush their larynx by accident in so doing, even if you only choke them to unconsciousness, they may not resume breathing when you release them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tauros 08/17/17 8:05:17 AM #53:	ThePredominate posted... Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma? This. If anything, he should have tortured the man longer. <cite>Tauros posted [p:884934909] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePredominate posted...</cite> <quote>Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma?</quote> This. If anything, he should have tortured the man longer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePredominate 08/17/17 8:06:40 AM #54:	SuperVegito2487 posted... ThePredominate posted... Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma? Yes i wouldnt say ethics and morals is an issue here Legallity however is. AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. Thats how ive heard it, although i dont agree with it. All he needs say is he feared for his mother's life, and his own when he went to defend her. --- Keep your face to the Sunshine, and you will not see the Shadows. <cite>ThePredominate posted [p:884934933] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperVegito2487 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePredominate posted...</cite> <quote>Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma?</quote> Yes i wouldnt say ethics and morals is an issue here Legallity however is. AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. Thats how ive heard it, although i dont agree with it.</quote> All he needs say is he feared for his mother's life, and his own when he went to defend her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 08/17/17 8:07:13 AM #55:	Dumb bitch dated a guy with 26 arrests? Fucking hell, way to ruin your son's life. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:884934945] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Dumb bitch dated a guy with 26 arrests? Fucking hell, way to ruin your son's life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 08/17/17 8:08:08 AM #56:	SuperVegito2487 posted... AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. That's a UK thing, not a U.S. thing. In the UK, you're only allowed to use as much force as necessary to stop someone. In the U.S., it's much broader. Many states have stand-your-ground laws, and people are even able to resist wrongful arrests by police officers, by taking their life. Like someone else said earlier, you'll have a hard time getting a conviction from a jury since the guy had so many arrests and since it's going to be obvious he was a POS. There's just too strong of an argument to be made that he was defending the life of another. --- The first principle is that you must not fool yourself --- and you are the easiest person to fool. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:884934958] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperVegito2487 posted...</cite> <quote>AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother.</quote> That's a UK thing, not a U.S. thing. In the UK, you're only allowed to use as much force as necessary to stop someone. In the U.S., it's much broader. Many states have stand-your-ground laws, and people are even able to resist wrongful arrests by police officers, by taking their life. Like someone else said earlier, you'll have a hard time getting a conviction from a jury since the guy had so many arrests and since it's going to be obvious he was a POS. There's just too strong of an argument to be made that he was defending the life of another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 08/17/17 8:09:21 AM #57:	Legally, defense of another person is pretty much the same as self defense. If he reasonably thought his mom's life was in danger, the defense should hold. Side note: I've considered doing the same thing before. I used to hear my step dad and mom beat the living shit out of each other while growing up. I heard him choke her nearly to death, I heard them throw things at each other and hit each other, etc. There were quite a few times I thought about running to the kitchen, grabbing a knife, and putting an end to it. Kind of grew indifferent towards it after a while though. <cite>Vertania posted [p:884934991] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Legally, defense of another person is pretty much the same as self defense. If he reasonably thought his mom's life was in danger, the defense should hold. Side note: I've considered doing the same thing before. I used to hear my step dad and mom beat the living shit out of each other while growing up. I heard him choke her nearly to death, I heard them throw things at each other and hit each other, etc. There were quite a few times I thought about running to the kitchen, grabbing a knife, and putting an end to it. Kind of grew indifferent towards it after a while though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Melonfarms 08/17/17 8:11:05 AM #58:	Didn't read anything except what TC wrote If she was actively being beaten then the son was defending her. Justifiable. They only question would be if the force used was necessary but the judgement of an 18 year old is not the best and I wouldn't fault him for going overboard in this situation. Seeing NeoShadowhen's post: When applying a proper choke to someone you are cutting off blood flow rather than air and they can pass out within seconds. Continuing just a little longer can result in death. It could happen pretty quickly. --- PSN: obsurdrandom FEH: 6893310631 <cite>Melonfarms posted [p:884935035] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Didn't read anything except what TC wrote If she was actively being beaten then the son was defending her. Justifiable. They only question would be if the force used was necessary but the judgement of an 18 year old is not the best and I wouldn't fault him for going overboard in this situation. Seeing NeoShadowhen's post: When applying a proper choke to someone you are cutting off blood flow rather than air and they can pass out within seconds. Continuing just a little longer can result in death. It could happen pretty quickly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 08/17/17 8:13:39 AM #59:	bad mother --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:884935093] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>bad mother</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/17/17 8:20:27 AM #60:	GregShmedley posted... He absolutely did the right thing and I hope his charges are dropped. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:884935318] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>He absolutely did the right thing and I hope his charges are dropped.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 08/17/17 8:20:40 AM #61:	Blue_Dream87 posted... we shouldn't live in a society where heightened emotions can justify killing someone like that. The legal system already takes emotion into account. "Severe emotional distress" is enough to drop a charge from murder to manslaughter. Funkydog posted... I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law. It's not murder because it wasn't premeditated. Also, the emotional distress I just mentioned would make it, at most, manslaughter. <cite>Vertania posted [p:884935322] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>we shouldn't live in a society where heightened emotions can justify killing someone like that.</quote> The legal system already takes emotion into account. "Severe emotional distress" is enough to drop a charge from murder to manslaughter. <cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law.</quote> It's not murder because it wasn't premeditated. Also, the emotional distress I just mentioned would make it, at most, manslaughter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/17/17 8:21:13 AM #62:	Vertania posted... Funkydog posted... I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law. It's not murder because it wasn't premeditated. Also, the emotional distress I just mentioned would make it, at most, manslaughter. Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:884935342] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law. It's not murder because it wasn't premeditated. Also, the emotional distress I just mentioned would make it, at most, manslaughter. </quote> Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/17/17 8:26:00 AM #63:	Sounds like he's a hero to me if it went down how it says it went down. Kinda reminds me of that guy who beat to death his little daughters rapist (or attempted rapist). Hopefully this kid will get off too. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:884935475] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like he's a hero to me if it went down how it says it went down. Kinda reminds me of that guy who beat to death his little daughters rapist (or attempted rapist). Hopefully this kid will get off too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVegito2487 08/17/17 8:27:13 AM #64:	StucklnMyPants posted... SuperVegito2487 posted... AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother. That's a UK thing, not a U.S. thing. In the UK, you're only allowed to use as much force as necessary to stop someone. In the U.S., it's much broader. Many states have stand-your-ground laws, and people are even able to resist wrongful arrests by police officers, by taking their life. Like someone else said earlier, you'll have a hard time getting a conviction from a jury since the guy had so many arrests and since it's going to be obvious he was a POS. There's just too strong of an argument to be made that he was defending the life of another. Hmm or europe i wasnt going by uk laws i was going by what little i know of denmark laws which are probably similar There is a reason for the difference... i just dont know it But i thank you for explaining it. Also since this seems to have happened in the US that means US law so im arguing sementics I will say this. Pretty sure here in denmark he would still be punished but it would be a mild penalty. Potentially even just conditional sentence which is essentially just a parole. And i also know that many people wouldnt care. The punishment would be worth saving a parent. Although Darkman124 posted... NeoShadowhen posted... Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving. it's worth mentioning that this is not entirely true in the process of choking someone out you can easily crush their larynx by accident in so doing, even if you only choke them to unconsciousness, they may not resume breathing when you release them If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants --- L.J.Gibbs: Rule 51: "Sometimes You're Wrong." <cite>SuperVegito2487 posted [p:884935516] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperVegito2487 posted...</cite> <quote>AFAIK (dont quote me on this) if he COULD have stopped it without killing the man thats what should have been done, even if the man was trying to kill his mother.</quote> That's a UK thing, not a U.S. thing. In the UK, you're only allowed to use as much force as necessary to stop someone. In the U.S., it's much broader. Many states have stand-your-ground laws, and people are even able to resist wrongful arrests by police officers, by taking their life. Like someone else said earlier, you'll have a hard time getting a conviction from a jury since the guy had so many arrests and since it's going to be obvious he was a POS. There's just too strong of an argument to be made that he was defending the life of another.</quote> Hmm or europe i wasnt going by uk laws i was going by what little i know of denmark laws which are probably similar There is a reason for the difference... i just dont know it But i thank you for explaining it. Also since this seems to have happened in the US that means US law so im arguing sementics I will say this. Pretty sure here in denmark he would still be punished but it would be a mild penalty. Potentially even just conditional sentence which is essentially just a parole. And i also know that many people wouldnt care. The punishment would be worth saving a parent. Although <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving. </quote> it's worth mentioning that this is not entirely true in the process of choking someone out you can easily crush their larynx by accident in so doing, even if you only choke them to unconsciousness, they may not resume breathing when you release them</quote> If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 08/17/17 8:27:21 AM #65:	Funkydog posted... Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that. "Defense of another" is a legal defense. You don't get charged with it; you get charged with murder or manslaughter, then use that as a defense to it. I know it seems like I'm playing semantics, but legal terms have very specific meanings. <cite>Vertania posted [p:884935517] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that.</quote> "Defense of another" is a legal defense. You don't get charged with it; you get charged with murder or manslaughter, then use that as a defense to it. I know it seems like I'm playing semantics, but legal terms have very specific meanings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/17/17 8:29:16 AM #66:	Vertania posted... Funkydog posted... Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that. "Defense of another" is a legal defense. You don't get charged with it; you get charged with murder or manslaughter, then use that as a defense to it. I know it seems like I'm playing semantics, but legal terms have very specific meanings. Well, I'm no lawyer and have no knowledge of law. But what I meant was I could see it very easily not being charged/whatever as murder and don't really believe it was given he was defending his mother from a repeat abuser. Admittedly, I am going off British law and defence laws are far stricter than America's. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:884935570] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said in the rest of my post you didn't quote, I could see it easily not being considered that.</quote> "Defense of another" is a legal defense. You don't get charged with it; you get charged with murder or manslaughter, then use that as a defense to it. I know it seems like I'm playing semantics, but legal terms have very specific meanings.</quote> Well, I'm no lawyer and have no knowledge of law. But what I meant was I could see it very easily not being charged/whatever as murder and don't really believe it was given he was defending his mother from a repeat abuser. Admittedly, I am going off British law and defence laws are far stricter than America's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 08/17/17 8:29:55 AM #67:	Choking a man to death is pretty brutal. Was he just trying to make him pass out or did he actually want the guy dead? --- DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below): <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:884935589] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Choking a man to death is pretty brutal. Was he just trying to make him pass out or did he actually want the guy dead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 08/17/17 8:32:55 AM #68:	Was this the 18 year old Billy Bob Thornton in Switchblade? --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:884935664] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Was this the 18 year old Billy Bob Thornton in Switchblade?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarioBro88 08/17/17 8:41:00 AM #69:	Good. --- Switch: SW-1543-6664-2124 PSN and Xbox: MacyG88 <cite>MarioBro88 posted [p:884935893] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/17/17 8:42:43 AM #70:	I think it was appropriate to charge him given the law, but I sincerely hope a jury does not convict him --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:884935957] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>I think it was appropriate to charge him given the law, but I sincerely hope a jury does not convict him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 08/17/17 8:46:59 AM #71:	NY PENAL LAW 35.15 states that it was justified with a substantial amount of evidence to back it up. --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:884936096] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>NY PENAL LAW 35.15 states that it was justified with a substantial amount of evidence to back it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 08/17/17 8:56:23 AM #72:	Southernfatman posted... Sounds like he's a hero to me if it went down how it says it went down. Kinda reminds me of that guy who beat to death his little daughters rapist (or attempted rapist). Hopefully this kid will get off too. I was thinking of the same story here too. I'm sure the kid will be fine. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:884936359] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like he's a hero to me if it went down how it says it went down. Kinda reminds me of that guy who beat to death his little daughters rapist (or attempted rapist). Hopefully this kid will get off too.</quote> I was thinking of the same story here too. I'm sure the kid will be fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/17/17 9:08:57 AM #73:	I'd say it's "wrong" but justified. He should be charged and tried though. But only for the sake of due process. Id hope he'd get off. --- Currently Binging: Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex http://i.imgtc.com/YQId2Bz.png <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:884936780] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>I'd say it's "wrong" but justified. He should be charged and tried though. But only for the sake of due process. Id hope he'd get off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/17/17 9:09:08 AM #74:	Sativa_Rose posted... Mackorov posted... If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted Yup, remember Eric Garner? He was choked to death for a hell of a lot less than what this ex boyfriend did... I will never get the logic behind this. Civilians kill others in actual serious need of self-defense...gets charged and arrested with manslaughter. Police kills others out of pure paranoia and without actual need of such self-defense? Nope, perfectly acceptable. It's got to the point it seems a cop can just randomly shoot someone just for fun and wont be charged either. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884936787] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote>If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted</quote> Yup, remember Eric Garner? He was choked to death for a hell of a lot less than what this ex boyfriend did...</quote> I will never get the logic behind this. Civilians kill others in actual serious need of self-defense...gets charged and arrested with manslaughter. Police kills others out of pure paranoia and without actual need of such self-defense? Nope, perfectly acceptable. It's got to the point it seems a cop can just randomly shoot someone just for fun and wont be charged either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 08/17/17 10:34:54 AM #75:	Jc 118 to 4. I sincerely hope none of you emotionally unhinged people make it to a US jury. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:884940313] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Jc 118 to 4. I sincerely hope none of you emotionally unhinged people make it to a US jury.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 08/17/17 10:48:37 AM #76:	In defense of his loved one and quite possibly himself? Yes. He's a hero. I can't pretend to know personally why people stay in these kinds of relationships other then threat of even worse harm if they left, constant stalking etc. but I'd have kicked his abusive ass to the curb Day One. Urgh my aunt has put up with domestic abuse all her married life. I love her, but I really don't get why she didn't divorce his sorry ass or why she kept going back? It doesn't make sense. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:884940955] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>In defense of his loved one and quite possibly himself? Yes. He's a hero. I can't pretend to know personally why people stay in these kinds of relationships other then threat of even worse harm if they left, constant stalking etc. but I'd have kicked his abusive ass to the curb Day One. Urgh my aunt has put up with domestic abuse all her married life. I love her, but I really don't get why she didn't divorce his sorry ass or why she kept going back? It doesn't make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/17/17 10:53:59 AM #77:	SuperVegito2487 posted... If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants ultimately the windpipe is a very fragile part of the body. what is intended as an action to neutralize can rapidly become a cause of death without intent --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:884941230] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperVegito2487 posted...</cite> <quote> If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants</quote> ultimately the windpipe is a very fragile part of the body. what is intended as an action to neutralize can rapidly become a cause of death without intent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVegito2487 08/17/17 10:58:40 AM #78:	Darkman124 posted... SuperVegito2487 posted... If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants ultimately the windpipe is a very fragile part of the body. what is intended as an action to neutralize can rapidly become a cause of death without intent Indeed meaning a mistake would be easy to make and then theres the whole heat of the moment if thats what happened i dont see much happening to the guy --- L.J.Gibbs: Rule 51: "Sometimes You're Wrong." <cite>SuperVegito2487 posted [p:884941427] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperVegito2487 posted...</cite> <quote> If this is the case and he was aiming to just neutralize i think the death would be considered an accident. Im only parroting 3rd source info at best. Which is why im happy for your description @StucklnMyPants</quote> ultimately the windpipe is a very fragile part of the body. what is intended as an action to neutralize can rapidly become a cause of death without intent</quote> Indeed meaning a mistake would be easy to make and then theres the whole heat of the moment if thats what happened i dont see much happening to the guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 08/17/17 11:34:14 AM #80:	I'd kill anyone who would lay their hands on my mother. Same for anyone I love really. --- Wombo Combo! http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpg <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:884943205] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>I'd kill anyone who would lay their hands on my mother. Same for anyone I love really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/17/17 11:42:18 AM #81:	Lol at the random posts victim blaming the mom. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:884943626] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote>Lol at the random posts victim blaming the mom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowElite86 08/17/17 12:00:40 PM #82:	RebelElite791 posted... I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo. This. All I know is that I would have done the exact same thing tbh. --- GT: ShadowElite86 FFBE: 411,656,473 <cite>ShadowElite86 posted [p:884944557] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.</quote> This. All I know is that I would have done the exact same thing tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 08/17/17 12:06:04 PM #83:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxO8Z-mhTM --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:884944854] in 18 year ol... [t:75678676]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxO8Z-mhTM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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