Current Events > FYI: Destroying a monument isn't erasing history. Y'know why?

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Because you can still look up that history in a textbook, on the internet, in an encyclopedia, and people are still free to talk about said history.

Monuments are mainly about idolatry.

And in museums where most of there statues that get removed go

Leave it to Conservatives to be giant man babies about it though, and whine about something that isn't happening. Reminds me of when they went on for 8 years about how Obama was going to take everyone's guns
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Plus the monuments in question are not relics of actual Confederate-era history but a result of an attempted revisionist push during the Civil Rights era.
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Until they start burning books and banning sites online.
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People had no trouble learning history in the many decades that passed between most of these events and the monuments built to them
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Would you still use the same argument if Martin Luther King/Rosa Parks statues were removed?

Checkmate Scientologists.
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...

Until they start burning books and banning sites online.

Slippery slope fallacy
RebelElite791 posted...

Plus the monuments in question are not relics of actual Confederate-era history but a result of an attempted revisionist push during the Civil Rights era.

Yep, this whole thing is a farce.
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ThanksUglyGod posted...

Because you can still look up that history in a textbook, on the internet, in an encyclopedia, and people are still free to talk about said history.

Monuments are mainly about idolatry.

until we delete the database
burn the textbooks and people who knew about it die of old age

but that is how all history goes
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no but if we don't have statues how are we going to remember that enslaving people is bad
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Don't kid yourselves.
These people are the least educated and do not care about learning anything.
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Spooking posted...

Is TC fine with ISIS destroying art, history and monuments in Iraq?

How is that even remotely the same as to what's going on in America lmao

You're the type of dude to compare knights to samurai and say "see they were the same thing just in different places"

Shit the fuck up
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DuranOfForcena posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

Would you still use the same argument if Martin Luther King/Rosa Parks statues were removed?

Checkmate Scientologists.

there is no justifiable reason to remove those statues though, unlike the statues in question which are of racist shitbags and traitors

Not trying to start an argument here, just want to say that what is considered justifiable changes over time. You just need enough people to feel offended by whichever historical person is honored, then down goes their statue.
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Can someone explain this idea to me . There are a lot of things in history that are not made into monuments and we still remember them. Hell many of the people who support the monuments no little about history .
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Spooking posted...

MLK was not for gay rights.

Don't pretend you give a shit. Don't pretend you don't already know why the argument you're making is stupid, today's version of "why isn't there a white history month?" or "transgender is a thing, so transracial must also."

Context exists, no matter how much you'd like to pretend otherwise. Whereas Robert E. Lee has statues for his service to a short-lived slaveocracy, MLK is memorialized for his fight to help eke out a meager semblance of racial equality, nothing to do with his views on homosexuality.

If you keep pretending to be stupid online, you'll end up stuck that way.
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Spooking posted...

MLK was quoted saying “The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired,” King wrote. “You are already on the right road toward a solution, since you honestly recognize the problem and have a desire to solve it.”

MLK was not for gay rights. He actually saw it as a problem. As a Christian minister, there was no way he supported gay rights. How do you think gay people feel every time they walk pass a MLK statue, or live on a MLK Blvd. street? Knowing that MLK was looking down on them? MLK isn't somebody a gay person should admire or respect.

Did MLK try to KILL gay people, did MLK kidnap gay people? And I love when the right love LGTB people as a fucking shield
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Awesome how @Spooking is so quick to point out a simple typo, but seems adamant against actually arguing my point

It's almost as if... *gasp*.... your arguments are kinda garbage

:o
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Spooking posted...

Is TC fine with ISIS destroying art, history and monuments in Iraq?

No, because that was an actual form of religious and cultural oppression.

Confederate statues and monuments aren't religious monuments (that would go against one of the South's core beliefs). It's not cultural oppression either because the Confederacy doesn't (or at least shouldn't) represent Southern culture.

RebelElite791 posted...

Plus the monuments in question are not relics of actual Confederate-era history but a result of an attempted revisionist push during the Civil Rights era.

This is the key point. Monuments that truly reckoned with the Civil War might highlight emancipation, or the thousands of Southerners who fought for the Union. There's a reason the South is dotted instead with marble confederates, and it's not about preserving history.
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Antifar posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Plus the monuments in question are not relics of actual Confederate-era history but a result of an attempted revisionist push during the Civil Rights era.

This is the key point. Monuments that truly reckoned with the Civil War might highlight emancipation, or the thousands of Southerners who fought for the Union. There's a reason the South is dotted instead with marble confederates, and it's not about preserving history.

The same sort of movement as the one in the 50's that got "under God" shoehorned into the pledge?

NadYobWoc posted...

Slippery slope fallacy

You do know that the people who want black only areas of colleges and those wanting to tear down these statues have a pretty huge overlap right?
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I literally don't know anything that I didn't learn from a honorary statue built after the fact and I only retain the knowledge so long as the statues are in public squares. I am slowly losing all memory of the Civil War as these statues go.
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