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Solar_Crimson
08/09/17 9:27:58 AM
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-Xenoblade Chronicles X
-Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
-Baten Kaitos Origins (albeit, this is a prequel, and it's story is still good, but I enjoyed the story of the original BK more)
-Fire Emblem Fates (according to reports (I haven't played it [yet?]), though Awakening's story wasn't all that great, either)
-Soul Calibur V
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DevsBro
08/09/17 9:28:55 AM
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Almost all of them, tbh.
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iosifsvoboda
08/09/17 9:29:09 AM
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Mass effect 2 and 3
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Xelltrix
08/09/17 9:29:30 AM
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Kingdom Hearts 2
Then again with BBS



Mass Effect 2
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GunmaN1905
08/09/17 9:34:23 AM
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Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
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Kitt
08/09/17 9:35:11 AM
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DoGCyN
08/09/17 9:37:23 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
Kingdom Hearts 2

Kitt posted...
Kingdom Hearts 2

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MechaKirby
08/09/17 9:39:05 AM
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Halo 2
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BLAKUboy
08/09/17 9:39:34 AM
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KH2 really wasn't any worse than KH1. They're both pretty equally not great.
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FrenchCrunch
08/09/17 9:40:34 AM
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BioShock 2
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Xelltrix
08/09/17 9:40:39 AM
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DoGCyN posted...
Xelltrix posted...
Kingdom Hearts 2

Kitt posted...
Kingdom Hearts 2

fight me


How could you possibly think KH1 had a better combat system? lol It and 358 have the most boring combat system out of all of them, though I still enjoyed it enough the first time through. KH2 vanilla version was really easy, but still more fun than KH1's combat.

BBS and CoS have the best battle systems in the series for sure, but KH1 for sure had the most riveting story.
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voldothegr8
08/09/17 9:40:57 AM
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Chrono Cross
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Skye Reynolds
08/09/17 9:42:25 AM
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Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos

One could easily see it as the best or worst game of the NES trilogy.
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pegusus123456
08/09/17 9:43:03 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Saints Row 4.

And SR3 for that matter.

I've also heard this about Bioshock 2.
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DoGCyN
08/09/17 9:43:29 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
How could you possibly think KH1 had a better combat system?

I didn't. I did however think KH2 had a much better story.
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Butterfiles
08/09/17 9:44:22 AM
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Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep is the literal definition of this

also MGSV
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pegusus123456
08/09/17 9:44:33 AM
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DoGCyN posted...
I did however think KH2 had a much better story.

That's worse than thinking KH1 had the better combat system.
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FrenchCrunch
08/09/17 9:44:34 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
Saints Row 4.

And SR3 for that matter.

I've also heard this about Bioshock 2.

if you count customization as gameplay, saints row 3 was a huge step down
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DevsBro
08/09/17 9:44:56 AM
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How could you possibly think KH1 had a better combat system? lol It and 358 have the most boring combat system out of all of them, though I still enjoyed it enough the first time through. KH2 vanilla version was really easy, but still more fun than KH1's combat.

BBS and CoS have the best battle systems in the series for sure, but KH1 for sure had the most riveting story.

One major gameplay feature they removed in 2 was moves like Strike Raid, Sonic Blade, Ragnarok, etc. I still wouldn't say KH1 had better gameplay but I could see the argument if someone did. Plus, he could have always been contesting the story part instead.
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DoGCyN
08/09/17 9:45:21 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
DoGCyN posted...
I did however think KH2 had a much better story.

That's 100% correct.


I agree.
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pegusus123456
08/09/17 9:45:33 AM
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FrenchCrunch posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
Saints Row 4.

And SR3 for that matter.

I've also heard this about Bioshock 2.

if you count customization as gameplay, saints row 3 was a huge step down

You know, thinking about it, I don't remember SR3 being as fun. Maybe I'll strike it off the list.
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Xelltrix
08/09/17 9:46:04 AM
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DevsBro posted...
How could you possibly think KH1 had a better combat system? lol It and 358 have the most boring combat system out of all of them, though I still enjoyed it enough the first time through. KH2 vanilla version was really easy, but still more fun than KH1's combat.

BBS and CoS have the best battle systems in the series for sure, but KH1 for sure had the most riveting story.

One major gameplay feature they removed in 2 was moves like Strike Raid, Sonic Blade, Ragnarok, etc. I still wouldn't say KH1 had better gameplay but I could see the argument if someone did. Plus, he could have always been contesting the story part instead.


That's why I added that little story caveat at the end, in case he was crazy enough to like that story more.
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ChromaticAngel
08/09/17 9:47:06 AM
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Borderlands Pre Sequel
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NeonOctopus
08/09/17 9:47:54 AM
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DoGCyN
08/09/17 9:51:59 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
DoGCyN posted...
I did however think KH2 had a much better story.

That's worse than thinking KH1 had the better combat system.

I'll even humor you.

- KH2 Sora for one, grew up a bit and actually sounds like an adult. The one in KH1 sounds annoying af.
- The characters in general are all vastly better. You get the feels from the whole prequel of the game starring Roxas. Xehanort is a powerful semi quiet badass that actually has development throughout the game, something Ansem in KH1 lacked. Speaking of Ansem, he's another awesome character the kh2 (the real Ansem). And Riku's re-appearance for the final fight is fan-fucking-tastic, which is also a really great way the game ended, seeing as they fought together. Several of the Nobodies have more note-able appearances than most "enemies" in KH1.
- The overall story has an actual conclusion, and it's a good one.
- Gameplay wise, If you include FM+, KH2 has vastly better optional bosses. But lets be real, Sephiroth alone in KH2 is better than every single fight in KH1.
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Xelltrix
08/09/17 10:08:40 AM
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Sora isn't an adult, why should he sound like one? lol
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DoGCyN
08/09/17 10:09:38 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
Sora isn't an adult, why should he sound like one? lol

He doesn't sound annoying.
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pinky0926
08/09/17 10:11:00 AM
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2SweetforTurtle
08/09/17 10:12:09 AM
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Force Unleashed 2
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GiftedACIII
08/09/17 8:33:36 PM
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Dead Rising 2, Pokemon 6-7th gen, Bioshock 2, Ace Attorney Justice for All.
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mario masta
08/09/17 8:36:52 PM
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MGSV
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yusiko
08/09/17 8:39:13 PM
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persona 3
persona 2 had the best storyline but its gameplay was terrible
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boxington
08/09/17 8:39:23 PM
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Calwings
08/09/17 8:45:19 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
-Fire Emblem Fates (according to reports (I haven't played it [yet?]), though Awakening's story wasn't all that great, either)

Fates isn't a sequel to Awakening, they don't share any story ties at all.

Solar_Crimson posted...
Soul Calibur V

This is 100% accurate. If the game hadn't been rushed to release and they had fleshed out the single player modes and character stories, it could have surpassed SC2 as the best in the series. Heck, it could have been one of the best fighting games of the whole generation.
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GeneralKenobi85
08/09/17 8:55:37 PM
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Dishonored 2
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boxington
08/09/17 9:00:33 PM
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GallisOTK
08/09/17 9:02:19 PM
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Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World
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Solar_Crimson
08/09/17 9:07:12 PM
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Calwings posted...
Fates isn't a sequel to Awakening, they don't share any story ties at all.

Maybe "sequel" was the wrong word to use, but I'm not just talking about plot follow-ups. Otherwise, Xenoblade X wouldn't have been listed as well.

JustMyOpinion posted...
Chronicles X has a worse story? Xenoblade was 2 completely different stories mashed together and was pretty confusing.

Xenoblade X's story leaves too many hanging plot threads and ends on a cliffhanger. Much of the game's world-building come from sidequests, but the main plot leaves a lot to be desired. Plus, several characters felt underdeveloped (notably Irina and Gwin).

GallisOTK posted...
Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World

How the hell did I forget this one?
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Darmik
08/09/17 9:08:00 PM
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Halo 2, 4 and 5
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tennisdude818
08/09/17 9:10:51 PM
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Final Fantasy X-2. The battle system was great.
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yusiko
08/09/17 10:35:06 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
How the hell did I forget this one?




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yusiko
08/09/17 10:35:41 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
How the hell did I forget this one?




remember the time i said courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality?
lets flashback to it because its been so long since i said it
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Kisai
08/09/17 10:43:57 PM
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Kingdom Hearts II is the poster child for this.

Calwings posted...
Fates isn't a sequel to Awakening, they don't share any story ties at all.

Lots of sequels don't have to share story ties. Look at the Final Fantasy series.
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sabin017
08/09/17 10:52:40 PM
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Definitely MGS2
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boxington
08/09/17 10:59:03 PM
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sabin017 posted...
Definitely MGS2

nah, man.
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Frolex
08/09/17 11:01:04 PM
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Megaman50100
08/09/17 11:02:55 PM
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Bioshock 2 is the shining example for me.
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