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HBOSS
08/08/17 7:01:54 PM
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The art of war
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:01:54 PM
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lilORANG posted...
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Why would China nuke the US?

they won't unless we actually attack them as well. our economies sort of rely on each other. Blowing up some country next door isn't going to trigger them.

Like it didn't in the Korean war?
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ScazarMeltex
08/08/17 7:01:57 PM
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Transcendentia posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.


Why would China do that? North Korea has a shit ton of ground soldiers.


That are all almost exclusively deployed along the border with South Korea. The reason they would do this is that they don't want a shooting match between the US and North Korea that will inevitably end with massive destruction right on their border and the reunification of the Korean peninsula under a US allied Seoul based government. Easier to prevent all of that by occupying North Korea yourself.
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Transcendentia
08/08/17 7:02:54 PM
#54:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Transcendentia posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.


Why would China do that? North Korea has a shit ton of ground soldiers.


That are all almost exclusively deployed along the border with South Korea. The reason they would do this is that they don't want a shooting match between the US and North Korea that will inevitably end with massive destruction right on their border and the reunification of the Korean peninsula under a US allied Seoul based government. Easier to prevent all of that by occupying North Korea yourself.


Maybe it's in our best interests for China to take NK then. They could put in a new government and change the entire country for the better.
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:02:58 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

Because along with Russia they are North Korea's allies
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DarthAragorn
08/08/17 7:03:29 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Maybe this is a Jamie Lannister-style ploy...Say they are attacking Guam, send only a small force to attack it, and then the full NK force is seizing The Philippines.

He learned that shit from Robb Stark
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:03:53 PM
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Can't believe how many people on here think China will turn against North Korea.

I guess this shows you how many CEmen are high school dropouts.
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darkphoenix181
08/08/17 7:04:45 PM
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NK

captures America man and tortures him dead

then says "we are thinking about shooting missiles at your soil"


ah but just ignore them?

it is interesting thinking to say the least
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 7:04:50 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

Because along with Russia they are North Korea's allies

They won't be if N. Korea decides to attack us.

They will be dropped immediately because they will be a liability.

The only way Russia or China will consider defending them is if the US strikes first
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lilORANG
08/08/17 7:04:55 PM
#60:


REMercsChamp posted...
lilORANG posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

they won't unless we actually attack them as well. our economies sort of rely on each other. Blowing up some country next door isn't going to trigger them.

Like it didn't in the Korean war?

do you think nukes were used in the Korean war? Do you think China's economy was nearly as interdependent on the US economy in the freaking 50s as it is now?
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 7:05:31 PM
#61:


REMercsChamp posted...
Can't believe how many people on here think China will turn against North Korea.

I guess this shows you how many CEmen are high school dropouts.


I can't believe you think otherwise.

EDIT: Actually yes i can, after all you are REMercsChamp so it shouldn't be a surprise.
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Ray_Dorset
08/08/17 7:05:55 PM
#62:


EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?


They wont ; neither Russia nor China will side with NK against the us. That being said, it can still potentially cost millions of lives
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BlackHorse6969
08/08/17 7:06:50 PM
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i still dont understand why they would declare what they are going to do. why do villains always do this? if you're going to do something, dont give away your plan, just do it.
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darkphoenix181
08/08/17 7:07:20 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
i still dont understand why they would declare what they are going to do. why do villains always do this? if you're going to do something, dont give away your plan, just do it.


they want Trump to apologize for what he said
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:07:37 PM
#65:


Dustin1280 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Can't believe how many people on here think China will turn against North Korea.

I guess this shows you how many CEmen are high school dropouts.


I can't believe you think otherwise.

EDIT: Actually yes i can, after all you are REMercsChamp so it shouldn't be a surprise.

I think you need to go back to kindergarten and start over
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SK8T3R215
08/08/17 7:07:37 PM
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If NK attacks all China will do is move all its military to the border to deal with the civilians trying to enter China from NK. China won't attack the US also lol.
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lilORANG
08/08/17 7:07:42 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Can't believe how many people on here think China will turn against North Korea.

I guess this shows you how many CEmen are high school dropouts.


I can't believe you think otherwise.

EDIT: Actually yes i can, after all you are REMercsChamp so it shouldn't be a surprise.

It's certainly not out of the question. NK has basically no value to China other than as a geographic buffer to SK (and by extension the US). I can see some compromise where China gets to do whatever it wants with NK to keep that buffer, but Kim is gone.
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Monday
08/08/17 7:07:45 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
i still dont understand why they would declare what they are going to do. why do villains always do this? if you're going to do something, dont give away your plan, just do it.


Kim is just talking big. Similar to our own dear leader, he likes to wave his dick around and pretend the people are smiling with him when they're actually cringing.
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 7:08:10 PM
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The thing that concerns me the most is we have two extremely egotistical people trying to out threaten each other...

This is most definitely NOT good.
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tennisdude818
08/08/17 7:08:22 PM
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Empty threat. I have doubts that China would go to war for NK under any circumstances, but they certainly won't if NK tries to hit first.
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darkphoenix181
08/08/17 7:09:35 PM
#72:


Dustin1280 posted...
The thing that concerns me the most is we have two extremely egotistical people trying to out threaten each other...

This is most definitely NOT good.


Trump is just negotiating

seeing what deal he can make no doubt
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itachi15243
08/08/17 7:09:36 PM
#73:


REMercsChamp posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

Because along with Russia they are North Korea's allies


I'm pretty sure that if nk does try to nuke American soil, they won't be allies much longer​.

They'd probably cut their losses before the whole world is destroyed.
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slipknirvana
08/08/17 7:11:02 PM
#75:


lilORANG posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

they won't unless we actually attack them as well. our economies sort of rely on each other. Blowing up some country next door isn't going to trigger them.



China has been asked countless times to stop NK, yet hasn't even attempted it. I think ChIan would have their back.
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ElatedVenusaur
08/08/17 7:11:03 PM
#76:


tennisdude818 posted...
Empty threat. I have doubts that China would go to war for NK under any circumstances, but they certainly won't if NK tries to hit first.

Yeah, if North Korea is dumb enough to actually start a war with us, China will just stand on the sidelines and seal their border as tightly as possible. I imagine they'd make certain demands about how close to the border U.S. troops can be and what not.
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:11:04 PM
#77:


itachi15243 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
Why would China nuke the US?

Because along with Russia they are North Korea's allies


I'm pretty sure that if nk does try to nuke American soil, they won't be allies much longer​.

They'd probably cut their losses before the whole world is destroyed.

Sure they would. Like I said, you guys really need to go back to grade school, if you're even 13 years old yet in the first place.

How do you think North Korea is getting their nuclear weapons in the first place?
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darkphoenix181
08/08/17 7:11:44 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Empty threat. I have doubts that China would go to war for NK under any circumstances, but they certainly won't if NK tries to hit first.

Yeah, if North Korea is dumb enough to actually start a war with us, China will just stand on the sidelines and seal their border as tightly as possible. I imagine they'd make certain demands about how close to the border U.S. troops can be and what not.


war is more complicated than this

all it takes is China sending food and ammo to make the USA and China fight
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:14:53 PM
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I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 7:16:24 PM
#81:


REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.

I think you need to work on your sentence structure and vocabulary.

Maybe you should follow your own advice
REMercsChamp posted...
I think you need to go back to kindergarten and start over

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Ray_Dorset
08/08/17 7:18:37 PM
#82:


REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.


And what will china gain by siding against most economically and militarily powerful country in the world, in order to protect a piss poor country that would collapse if forced to survive on its own? China has far too much to lose by siding against the us in a war
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ElatedVenusaur
08/08/17 7:19:02 PM
#83:


darkphoenix181 posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Empty threat. I have doubts that China would go to war for NK under any circumstances, but they certainly won't if NK tries to hit first.

Yeah, if North Korea is dumb enough to actually start a war with us, China will just stand on the sidelines and seal their border as tightly as possible. I imagine they'd make certain demands about how close to the border U.S. troops can be and what not.


war is more complicated than this

all it takes is China sending food and ammo to make the USA and China fight

Which only becomes a war if both parties make it one.
China doesn't want to fight us directly, they'd much prefer watching us stick our collective dicks into the blender that would be occupying North Korea.
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lilORANG
08/08/17 7:19:38 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.

like a father can't kill his son? Or the US can't turn against the regimes it propped up over the years? What kind of reasoning is that? The world changes. It changes a lot over 60 years. Nobody is seriously interested in nuclear war.
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tremain07
08/08/17 7:20:50 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.

Japan,too because Kim will launch a nuke there if it really looks like the end for him.
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:21:55 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.

I think you need to work on your sentence structure and vocabulary.

Maybe you should follow your own advice
REMercsChamp posted...
I think you need to go back to kindergarten and start over

Right...how's that GED you're working on?
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Transcendentia
08/08/17 7:22:51 PM
#87:


REMercsChamp why are you shiposting, fam
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:23:49 PM
#88:


Transcendentia posted...
REMercsChamp why are you shiposting, fam

I'm not - WWI started as a family feud. You guys would know that if you passed your grade 9 history class.
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ScazarMeltex
08/08/17 7:23:58 PM
#89:


tremain07 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.

Japan,too because Kim will launch a nuke there if it really looks like the end for him.


Fair point.
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lilORANG
08/08/17 7:24:31 PM
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tremain07 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.

Japan,too because Kim will launch a nuke there if it really looks like the end for him.

Do we know how many nukes they have? It can't be an unreasonable amount given their tech right? Can we just target their missile silos and cripple them that way. They'd still have a fuck ton of artillery on the border but at least they can't launch any nukes.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/17 7:25:26 PM
#91:


REMercsChamp posted...
Transcendentia posted...
REMercsChamp why are you shiposting, fam

I'm not - WWI started as a family feud. You guys would know that if you passed your grade 9 history class.

I very nearly made a serious response to this. I can't believe I came that close.
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ScazarMeltex
08/08/17 7:28:27 PM
#93:


lilORANG posted...
tremain07 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
The real losers in any armed conflict between the US and NK are the civilians of North and South Korea. Especially the citizens of Seoul.
The easiest way to end this would be to convince China that it's in their own best interest to simply invade and occupy NK. The might actually be able to overrun and occupy the place before shit gets completely out of hand.

Japan,too because Kim will launch a nuke there if it really looks like the end for him.

Do we know how many nukes they have? It can't be an unreasonable amount given their tech right? Can we just target their missile silos and cripple them that way. They'd still have a fuck ton of artillery on the border but at least they can't launch any nukes.


The likelihood of us knowing exactly where all their silos and being able to disable them all in a single stroke is pretty slim.
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slipknirvana
08/08/17 7:29:32 PM
#94:


Ray_Dorset posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.


And what will china gain by siding against most economically and militarily powerful country in the world, in order to protect a piss poor country that would collapse if forced to survive on its own? China has far too much to lose by siding against the us in a war


I think China would try to blow us off the map to take our spot as the world's most powerful nation.

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Xelltrix
08/08/17 7:29:44 PM
#95:


REMercsChamp posted...
Sure, and then China and Russia will nuke the USA

lmao

No.
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REMercsChamp
08/08/17 7:30:43 PM
#96:


CEman's version of war with North Korea

1. USA nukes them off the map
2. China, Russia and the USA get together and have chardonnay together and pat each other on the back over a job well done
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lilORANG
08/08/17 7:30:54 PM
#97:


slipknirvana posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.


And what will china gain by siding against most economically and militarily powerful country in the world, in order to protect a piss poor country that would collapse if forced to survive on its own? China has far too much to lose by siding against the us in a war


I think China would try to blow us off the map to take our spot as the world's most powerful nation.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. As seen in China's ghost cities.

How will China blow us off the map without all of NATO responding in kind? Nuclear war with any major power will trigger the end of the world.
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tremain07
08/08/17 7:32:26 PM
#98:


REMercsChamp posted...
CEman's version of war with North Korea

1. USA nukes them off the map
2. China, Russia and the USA get together and have chardonnay together and pat each other on the back over a job well done

That's naive as hell, the political leverage and power structure to be changed and gained over this is far to appealing to simply let the US do it and walk away with no musts or fuse
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 7:34:43 PM
#99:


It's plainly clear based on 90% of what REMercsChamp posts that he really needs to take his own advice...

Usually his own insults towards others apply to him more then anyone else in the topic.
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Ray_Dorset
08/08/17 7:39:28 PM
#100:


slipknirvana posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I'd think you'd have to be illiterate to think that China would turn against North Korea. China is the only reason North Korea exists in the first place.


And what will china gain by siding against most economically and militarily powerful country in the world, in order to protect a piss poor country that would collapse if forced to survive on its own? China has far too much to lose by siding against the us in a war


I think China would try to blow us off the map to take our spot as the world's most powerful nation.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. As seen in China's ghost cities.


That is extremely unlikely
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Nikra
08/08/17 7:49:27 PM
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You posters here are falling for NK's propaganda: They successful scare the crap out of you. North Korea are well aware that if they launch one single nuke against another country, Nukes by the dozens will rain down on them. And their country will be totally destroid.
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