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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 9:47:19 AM
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Just an interesting observation, that's all.
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08/02/17 9:51:07 AM
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Puglia77
08/02/17 9:51:37 AM
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Squall28
08/02/17 9:58:54 AM
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You know all the third world countries out there with dictators are run by conservatives right?
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Kirby
08/02/17 10:00:51 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Post sources, TC.


https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/1-detroit/

Just going by this list, the top 5 violent crime ridden cities all have Democratic mayors. (Detroit, St Louis, Oakland, Memphis, Birmingham)
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ChromaticAngel
08/02/17 10:01:39 AM
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the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.
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Kirby
08/02/17 10:04:15 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.


That's quite the way to justify murder, sexual assaults, robbery etc....
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ChromaticAngel
08/02/17 10:04:45 AM
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Kirby posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.


That's quite the way to justify murder, sexual assaults, robbery etc....

Who is justifying those things?
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The Admiral
08/02/17 10:05:24 AM
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Liberals pander to the groups who commit the crime, telling them it's not their fault, that they're really the victims, and that only the government can save them.

Conservatives tell them that it's their responsibility to own up to their actions, work to change the culture of their community, and maintain a strong family structure.

No surprise why they vote the way they do... despite no progress being made for decades.
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UrethaFranklin
08/02/17 10:05:35 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.


lmfao wtf is this even
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VectorChaos
08/02/17 10:07:57 AM
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Puglia77 posted...
I never knew the south was a liberal haven

I never knew Detroit and Chiraq were in the south
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ChromaticAngel
08/02/17 10:08:22 AM
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UrethaFranklin posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.


lmfao wtf is this even

Asherlee10 covered it pretty well in post #13
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CanuckCowboy
08/02/17 10:09:05 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Kirby posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
the poorest, most high crime areas are in foreign countries run by highly conservative and religious people.

strictly in America, cities have a lot of crime because they have more people and the people are always struggling for the limited resources in the cities. That's all there is to it.


That's quite the way to justify murder, sexual assaults, robbery etc....

Who is justifying those things?


Justifying was the wrong would.

He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.

Spot on on the first part of your post though
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treewojima
08/02/17 10:09:14 AM
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what an unoriginal and boring topic
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John_Galt
08/02/17 10:09:48 AM
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Yeah, most of us have noticed.
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:10:28 AM
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Puglia77 posted...
I never knew the south was a liberal haven


Actually, the parts of the south that are in the worst shape are run directly by Democrats. Name a specific city known for high crime or poverty and go look at its mayor. You can probably find a few run by Republicans but most of them are run by Democrats.

Asherlee10 posted...
Post sources, TC.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Organized by Violent Crimes:
St. Louis - Democrat mayor
Detroit - Democrat
Memphis - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat

Organized by Robbery:
Oakland - Democrat
Cleveland - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat
Newark - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat

I think you get the point.

And btw, an example of high crime cities in the SOUTH:
Houston - Democrat mayor
New Orleans - Democrat
Atlanta - Democrat
Nashville - Democrat
Dallas - Democrat
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CanuckCowboy
08/02/17 10:12:09 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
Puglia77 posted...
I never knew the south was a liberal haven


Actually, the parts of the south that are in the worst shape are run directly by Democrats. Name a specific city known for high crime or poverty and go look at its mayor. You can probably find a few run by Republicans but most of them are run by Democrats.

Asherlee10 posted...
Post sources, TC.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Organized by Violent Crimes:
St. Louis - Democrat mayor
Detroit - Democrat
Memphis - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat

Organized by Robbery:
Oakland - Democrat
Cleveland - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat
Newark - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat

I think you get the point.

And btw, an example of high crime cities in the SOUTH:
Houston - Democrat mayor
New Orleans - Democrat
Atlanta - Democrat
Nashville - Democrat
Dallas - Democrat


So how come the valiant saviours of modern society can't do shit about it when they run everything on a federal level?

Talk about incompetence or plain not givin a fuck.

And why doed the considerably more left leaning Canada have so much less violent crime?

And why is my area one of the highest crime areas in Canada despite being a Conservative stronghold?
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treewojima
08/02/17 10:12:38 AM
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Democrats confirmed as crime lords
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:14:03 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
All in all, I'm not sure that the statement made by TC is all that accurate.


See my previous post (#19)

It is in fact true that the vast majority of high crime areas are run by Democrats. That is not up for debate, sorry.
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ChromaticAngel
08/02/17 10:14:32 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.


The elaborate explanation is really long, factors in a lot of issues that right-wingers refuse to acknowledge like racism, and would just be countered with "TRUMP MAGA MAGA MAGA" so I have little reason to type it out.
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CanuckCowboy
08/02/17 10:15:11 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
It is in fact true that the vast majority of high crime areas are run by Democrats. That is not up for debate, sorry.


This dude actually thinks municipal level politics are more closely related to crime and the law than federal or state politics.

Also Canada.
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CanuckCowboy
08/02/17 10:15:31 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.


The elaborate explanation is really long, factors in a lot of issues that right-wingers refuse to acknowledge like racism, and would just be countered with "TRUMP MAGA MAGA MAGA" so I have little reason to type it out.


That's fair.
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The Admiral
08/02/17 10:15:56 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
This dude actually thinks municipal level politics are more closely related to crime and the law than federal politics.


They are...
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:15:59 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
So how come the valiant saviours of modern society can't do shit about it when they run everything on a federal level?


I think people greatly underestimate the power of local government.
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:16:27 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
This dude actually thinks municipal level politics are more closely related to crime and the law than federal or state politics.


I hope you're trolling.
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Kirby
08/02/17 10:16:34 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Puglia77 posted...
I never knew the south was a liberal haven


Actually, the parts of the south that are in the worst shape are run directly by Democrats. Name a specific city known for high crime or poverty and go look at its mayor. You can probably find a few run by Republicans but most of them are run by Democrats.

Asherlee10 posted...
Post sources, TC.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Organized by Violent Crimes:
St. Louis - Democrat mayor
Detroit - Democrat
Memphis - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat

Organized by Robbery:
Oakland - Democrat
Cleveland - Democrat
Baltimore - Democrat
Newark - Democrat
Milwaukee - Democrat

I think you get the point.

And btw, an example of high crime cities in the SOUTH:
Houston - Democrat mayor
New Orleans - Democrat
Atlanta - Democrat
Nashville - Democrat
Dallas - Democrat


So how come the valiant saviours of modern society can't do shit about it when they run everything on a federal level?

Talk about incompetence or plain not givin a fuck.

And why doed the considerably more left leaning Canada have so much less violent crime?

And why is my area one of the highest crime areas in Canada despite being a Conservative stronghold?


This isn't about Canada, every country is different.

And having a conservative leader at the Federal level doesn't mean it trickles down...every state and city is still run independently and operates on their own. Hence why marijuana is legal in some places but illegal federally.
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tremain07
08/02/17 10:16:50 AM
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This is as dumb as those " ever notice the prison population is a certain race" topics.
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CanuckCowboy
08/02/17 10:16:58 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
This dude actually thinks municipal level politics are more closely related to crime and the law than federal or state politics.


I hope you're trolling.


I know you're trolling.

Or wilfully dense.

Same thing in the end.
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Kirby
08/02/17 10:18:02 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.


The elaborate explanation is really long, factors in a lot of issues that right-wingers refuse to acknowledge like racism, and would just be countered with "TRUMP MAGA MAGA MAGA" so I have little reason to type it out.


So you have no argument, got it.
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Twin3Turbo
08/02/17 10:18:37 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.

Can't be worse than the painful oversimplification the TC is trying to push.
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Balrog0
08/02/17 10:18:39 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals pander to the groups who commit the crime, telling them it's not their fault, that they're really the victims, and that only the government can save them.

Conservatives tell them that it's their responsibility to own up to their actions, work to change the culture of their community, and maintain a strong family structure.

No surprise why they vote the way they do... despite no progress being made for decades.


wow, I honestly can't tell if you're being serious

there's really been no progress for decades?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Property_Crime_Rates_in_the_United_States.svg

plus, you know, mayors are stymied by the legislative branch the same way governors and presidents can be; moreso in many cases since mayors in the US have only recently become very important in most places.

https://ballotpedia.org/Mayor-council_government#History
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:19:36 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
I know you're trolling.

Or wilfully dense.


argumentum ad hominem
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:20:14 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Notice how all the blue states are rich and healthy and all the red states are poor and obese?


Post sources.
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CruelBuffalo
08/02/17 10:20:28 AM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/media/the-9-safest-cities-in-america/


Hmm I see a lot of Democrat run cities on that list...hmmm
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Vindris_SNH
08/02/17 10:20:59 AM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
He should have said it was a painful oversimplification.

Can't be worse than the painful oversimplification the TC is trying to push.


Just a fact. Not an oversimplification.
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Sephiroth1288
08/02/17 10:21:48 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Notice how all the blue states are rich and healthy and all the red states are poor and obese?

Except it's always the red parts of the blue states where all the business happens and it's the blue parts of the red states that drive up the crime rate and poverty.
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CruelBuffalo
08/02/17 10:23:59 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Notice how all the blue states are rich and healthy and all the red states are poor and obese?

Except it's always the red parts of the blue states where all the business happens and it's the blue parts of the red states that drive up the crime rate and poverty.


Really!? Most of the business in Georgia doesn't happen in Atlanta. This is news to me.

Oh and what are the high growth areas in Texas? I could have sworn it was liberal Austin...but I don't recall. Maybe it was actually Waco and Amarillo lol.
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Sephiroth1288
08/02/17 10:28:40 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Really!? Most of the business in Georgia doesn't happen in Atlanta. This is news to me.

No, but all the crime in Georgia happens in Atlanta.

Ditto for Texas with Austin and Dallas.
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Dragonblade01
08/02/17 10:32:05 AM
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Yes, crime is the fault of liberals and democrats.

You guys cracked the code.
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Sephiroth1288
08/02/17 10:33:16 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Yes, crime is the fault of liberals and democrats.

You guys cracked the code.

You can be as flippant as you like, but it's still true that Democrat cities are far and away the most crime-ridden.
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--kresnik--
08/02/17 10:33:42 AM
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Oh, I've noticed.
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CruelBuffalo
08/02/17 10:34:02 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Really!? Most of the business in Georgia doesn't happen in Atlanta. This is news to me.

No, but all the crime in Georgia happens in Atlanta.

Ditto for Texas with Austin and Dallas.

All the crime? No

But imagine that. Most of the crime happens in areas of large population.

I think you broke a new code.

Also Austin is not unsafe. Care to show it is?
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Questionmarktarius
08/02/17 10:34:11 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals pander to the groups who commit the crime, telling them it's not their fault, that they're really the victims, and that only the government can save them.

Conservatives tell them that it's their responsibility to own up to their actions, work to change the culture of their community, and maintain a strong family structure.

No surprise why they vote the way they do... despite no progress being made for decades.

That doesn't really establish a causality chain though.

Do liberal-run areas tend to degenerate into to poverty and crime, or do destitute hellholes tend to vote liberal? Is it a death-spiral of both?
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CruelBuffalo
08/02/17 10:34:56 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Yes, crime is the fault of liberals and democrats.

You guys cracked the code.

You can be as flippant as you like, but it's still true that Democrat cities are far and away the most crime-ridden.

Breaking news. Most large cities are Democrat majority. Shocking I know. So the safest and most dangerous will be Democrat run
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Dragonblade01
08/02/17 10:35:00 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Yes, crime is the fault of liberals and democrats.

You guys cracked the code.

You can be as flippant as you like, but it's still true that Democrat cities are far and away the most crime-ridden.

And it's still horribly disingenuous to then insinuate a causal connection between democratic leadership and high rates of crime.
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