Current Events > TIPPING = you could've brought another meal with that money

(+) Yeah! (+)

or a small dessert for yourself

but hey, i guess you guys also give money to charity too?
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What does tipping have to do with bringing a meal
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The only thing I tip is my fedora as I walk out the door.
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Hey, I can tip you....or have enough money to come back.

How important is your job security I guess is the question.
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I feel like you can get away with tipping lower if you also don't make a mess, clean up after yourself, and just be a good customer. But it's still pretty customary to tip at a restaurant... Why exactly are so many people anti-tipping anyway? Do you not like being nice to others?
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Odora88 posted...

I feel like you can get away with tipping lower if you also don't make a mess, clean up after yourself, and just be a good customer. But it's still pretty customary to tip at a restaurant... Why exactly are so many people anti-tipping anyway? Do you not like being nice to others?

We are against a mandatory tax for eating at a restaurant.
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Took my wife and kids out for dinner last night, Bill was $74 I tipped $26
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Odora88 posted...

I feel like you can get away with tipping lower if you also don't make a mess, clean up after yourself, and just be a good customer. But it's still pretty customary to tip at a restaurant... Why exactly are so many people anti-tipping anyway? Do you not like being nice to others?

It's not really about being nice to others. Like you said, it's become customary. It doesn't mean much if it's assumed we give tips for any service except the worst.
I'd personally prefer to just pay more for the meal and pay the servers a set wage, rather than go through the ceremony of tipping
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KBGiantsfan posted...

Took my wife and kids out for dinner last night, Bill was $74 I tipped $26

Congratulations on all of your success.
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KBGiantsfan posted...

Took my wife and kids out for dinner last night, Bill was $74 I tipped $26

$26 = another meal or even a videogame for example
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Odora88 posted...

But it's still pretty customary to tip at a restaurant.

It's a dumb custom that became popular so restaurants didn't have to pay people a decent wage.

You could of bought four meals for the price of that one meal. You have no point.
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Kolibri X posted...

You could of bought four meals for the price of that one meal. You have no point.

Actually you just reinforced the point. Nice try tho
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I mean if you don't want to worry about factoring tips into your dinner you could, you know, go to a casual eatery that doesn't have wait service. Or alternately, eat at fucking home and tip yourself, if it bothers you so much.

Seriously, the whole tipping/low-rage dynamic in restaurants is incredibly stupid. But equally as stupid is people who go "I'm sick of having to tip my server! It's such a backwards system!" then turn around and eat out twice a week where they tip the server anyway.
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ForestLogic posted...

I mean if you don't want to worry about factoring tips into your dinner you could, you know, go to a casual eatery that doesn't have wait service. Or alternately, eat at fucking home and tip yourself, if it bothers you so much.

Seriously, the whole tipping/low-rage dynamic in restaurants is incredibly stupid. But equally as stupid is people who go "I'm sick of having to tip my server! It's such a backwards system!" then turn around and eat out twice a week where they tip the server anyway.

I mean, they can still go out to eat and tip while also acknowledging that the system is annoying
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but then I would have to tip even more if I bought another meal, dummy
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AlisLandale posted...

The only thing I tip is my fedora as I walk out the door.

Underrated post.
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Why does someone deserve more just because I got a steak instead of a coffee?
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emblem boy posted...

ForestLogic posted...

I mean if you don't want to worry about factoring tips into your dinner you could, you know, go to a casual eatery that doesn't have wait service. Or alternately, eat at fucking home and tip yourself, if it bothers you so much.

Seriously, the whole tipping/low-rage dynamic in restaurants is incredibly stupid. But equally as stupid is people who go "I'm sick of having to tip my server! It's such a backwards system!" then turn around and eat out twice a week where they tip the server anyway.

I mean, they can still go out to eat and tip while also acknowledging that the system is annoying

So in other words

*Consistently votes Republican*

"Ugh! Republicans are ruining this fucking country!"
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I'm not going to stiff the staff like some self-centered asshole. There's enough shit in this world that I don't need to add to.
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Not the main reason why I just make my meals at home, but it's another thing I can point at to justify it. Only problem is that when going out with others, the tipping is unavoidable. I want to sit down, eat, and enjoy myself instead of having waiters being pressured into needlessly checking in on me (thus interrupting my meal) and without me having to think about and calculate tip at the end. It's just an annoying custom with way too much shame attached to it and at the wrong end. The shame should be entirely on the employer. Yeah, some restaurants are family owned and run, but they could just raise prices to what they should be instead of relying on tips. I've read reviews of people complaining about really bad service and then at the end of the review writing, "I left my 20% tip and never came back again". Gee, you sure showed them!

If restaurants just raised prices to cover proper wages, I'd bet we'd end up paying less overall anyway. Quite a few waiters make crazy amounts of money off tips and it's often because they're attractive or some reason other than exceptional service. Plus the idea of tip inflation is fucking moronic. Wasn't 15% considered proper for great service a while ago? Well now it's apparently 20% or even higher, I don't fucking know anymore. A percentage-based system doesn't need to be raised to account for inflation because a percentage already covers that, motherfuckers. Eating out is already expensive as is. Fuck that noise.
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ForestLogic posted...

So in other words

*Consistently votes Republican*

"Ugh! Republicans are ruining this f***ing country!"

The tipping system will be the last thing restaurants ditch if people stop going.

To get rid of tipping, if youre not going to do it through legislation, you'd need to put the concept of reasonably priced, good food with no tip into the public psyche.

Basically, some upstart would need to start a restaurant, pay his servers a living wage, sell food at comparable quality and value to regular restaurants, and the no-tip restaurant would need to get popular enough to go viral.

Then maybe things would change.
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AlisLandale posted...

pay his servers a living wage

min wage is enough for servers
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If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.
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or he can do what he likes with his money


not his fault some fools sign up for roulette pay jobs
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I don't tip because you should have a better job.

You know EXACTLY what you get in the food biz.
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I make sure to never tip to counteract the zealous overtippers and to trigger servers. When you tip, you're literally cucking yourself.
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Fill_Kessel posted...

Odora88 posted...

I feel like you can get away with tipping lower if you also don't make a mess, clean up after yourself, and just be a good customer. But it's still pretty customary to tip at a restaurant... Why exactly are so many people anti-tipping anyway? Do you not like being nice to others?

We are against a mandatory tax for eating at a restaurant.

That's great, but you still have to participate in current society while trying to change society. Or I guess you don't have to, but don't eat anywhere where employees live off tips until things change.
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ModLogic posted...

AlisLandale posted...

pay his servers a living wage

min wage is enough for servers

Minimum wage hasn't kept pace with increased standard of living, so no it isn't. It isn't enough for anyone.
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Taxer posted...

I make sure to never tip to counteract the zealous overtippers and to trigger servers. When you tip, you're literally cucking yourself.

That plan works until you're notorious and people are basically shitting in your food.
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Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

So when you eat with friends or with a date, do you just host dinner at your house?
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If the tipping system wasn't in place your food would cost more and people would be bitching that it costs too much to eat out.
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voldothegr8 posted...

If the tipping system wasn't in place your food would cost more and people would be bitching that it costs too much to eat out.

I'd be fine with that. It's not the extra money I'm paying that I dislike, it's the arbitrary tipping custom that I dislike. We're expected to tip for below average to excellent service. Pretty much any service except for the worst, which I find rarely happens.

As far as I'm concerned, I already end up adding an extra 15% to whatever I order. I'd prefer to just get rid of the useless ritual and add that cost to my meal from the beginning. Rather than make it separate and create some type of social stigma that makes people feel and look good/bad to others because they tipped to much or too little
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Dont question the scam TC
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1337toothbrush posted...

Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

So when you eat with friends or with a date, do you just host dinner at your house?

Uh, yeah?
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Alucard188 posted...

If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.

Theres this delusion that a person must tip.

Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

An even easier way to avoid tipping: buy meal and just dont tip.

Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

And im pretty sure most of the people on here complaining about tipping are in that category. I mean, unless they go to dinner with their parents and in that case, it's the parents tipping.
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asdf8562 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.

Theres this delusion that a person must tip.

You're right. There is no law. You can be such a maladjusted person that you don't know how to function in current society. That is your natural right.
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Imagine tipping

Shadowstrike007 posted...

I don't tip because you should have a better job.

You know EXACTLY what you get in the food biz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WJh8bEwt40
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Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

If only there was a way to eat out and not tip. It's like there's no way to avoid the completely optional money drain that is tipping.
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hockeybub89 posted...

asdf8562 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.

Theres this delusion that a person must tip.

You're right. There is no law. You can be such a maladjusted person that you don't know how to function in current society. That is your natural right.

What you call 'Maladjusted person'. I call not being a sucker.
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

asdf8562 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.

Theres this delusion that a person must tip.

You're right. There is no law. You can be such a maladjusted person that you don't know how to function in current society. That is your natural right.

What you call 'Maladjusted person'. I call not being a sucker.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Rhylos posted...

Easy way avoid tipping: never eat out

And im pretty sure most of the people on here complaining about tipping are in that category. I mean, unless they go to dinner with their parents and in that case, it's the parents tipping.

Doudbtful. I eat out 1 to 3 times a month, I tip maybe 1 to 3 times a year at best. I tipped because the service was phenomenal and I wanted to. Not because of no delusion you must tip.

Contrary to delusional belief, you can eat out quite often and not bother tip.

SaccharineSmile posted...

but hey, i guess you guys also give money to charity too

I like how TC acts like this is a bad thing to do
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

asdf8562 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

If your reason for not tipping is "You could buy yourself more food with that money", then perhaps you should just stay home and have a home-cooked meal.

Theres this delusion that a person must tip.

You're right. There is no law. You can be such a maladjusted person that you don't know how to function in current society. That is your natural right.

What you call 'Maladjusted person'. I call not being a sucker.

A sucker for what? All You're doing is sticking it to people barely getting by that will get fired before restaurants will bump up wages. I am an advocate for getting rid of tipping and similar forms of wages. Not tipping isn't the way that is going to happen. I know it isn't a requirement to tip, but it there isn't a requirement for a lot of things. Bucking social norms for minor personal gain at the cost of others might not be a crime, but it might make you not a very high quality person. Thankfully, regardless of how crappy the world may seem, those type of people are always in the minority.
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voldothegr8 posted...

If the tipping system wasn't in place your food would cost more and people would be bitching that it costs too much to eat out.

Guaranteed the price increase would be less than it costs to tip. Servers not getting enough in tips have to be paid the difference in minimum wage anyway, so all the extra that tips provide is gravy. Tip inflation is definitely a thing. Before you know it, 30% will be the minimum acceptable tip.
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