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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:20:27 AM
#204:


RockRapDubstep posted...
Because they probably believe you to be a biological woman, since trans women are rare, and they would probably expect disclosure of that if it was the case. Like I said, for example you don't expect someone to have a rare disease or anything like that, and in the case that they do, you'd presumably expect their disclosure, right? You wouldn't think to ask that if you didn't have any reason to think that, right? You'd be pretty pissed if they didn't tell you until after, right? And then tried to blame you for not asking first.Gender dysphoria and transgenderism are very rare and uncommon. It's possible to "pass" for a female well enough where it might not be immediately noticable.It doesn't matter if they found the person attractive when they believed they were a woman. Someone doesn't need a reason to have the preferences they have. Trans people are more than well aware that most straight men or straight women aren't interested in them, so it should be disclosed in the same way disease history and stuff should be. You can even argue it isn't rape, but either way it's something on par with knowingly giving someone an STD or something, which is still a crime.


It isn't anything like an STD though. There is no risk to the man's medical wellbeing from not knowing that their partner wasn't biologically female. If he has a stigma against them, he might have some emotional distress, but that is a personal problem.

You have to disclose diseases because of the health risk. Sleeping with a transgender person isn't a risk to your health.
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Questionmarktarius
07/27/17 11:21:47 AM
#205:


Pre or post?
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:22:04 AM
#206:


Vindris_SNH posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Trans women aren't imitations though. They are actual women.


lmao

omg the level of brainwashing liberals have accomplished is unbelievable

what does this have to do with liberals
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:22:27 AM
#207:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Trans women aren't imitations though. They are actual women.


lmao

omg the level of brainwashing liberals have accomplished is unbelievable

what does this have to do with liberals


That question further proves how brainwashed you are.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:23:15 AM
#208:


Haldol posted...
A good enough disguise could fool a dickThat doesn't mean most guys would choose to f*** a transsexual thoughWhy does no one care about the right of the man to have sex with who they want to??


You can have sex with who you want to! Just don't hookup with people you barely know if you want to be sure of their chromosomes first.

:u And sadly, with the stigma in today's world, less and less trans people are even going to want to be honest about it before and after (to avoid getting stabbed). So you guys could be fucking trans people and never find out about it!
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:25:04 AM
#209:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Dragon239 posted...
To her, she was a woman and felt the need to transition. To him, she was a man and he was raped. What makes one more "real"?

she has a woman's brain, not a man's

she is also legally a woman

No she doesn't

She had a trans brain

Not a woman's

She is still a man biologically

And that man has a right to feel that way and should not be shamed because he wants a natural woman
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:26:55 AM
#210:


Vindris_SNH posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Trans women aren't imitations though. They are actual women.


lmao

omg the level of brainwashing liberals have accomplished is unbelievable

what does this have to do with liberals


That question further proves how brainwashed you are.

elaborate
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:26:56 AM
#211:


Marauder64 posted...
ACTUAL women? No, they are not. A different set of circumstances? No you mean a different set of chromosomes. What if that male that had sex with a transgender that didn't disclose their actual gender wanted to have children? What then? Uh-oh.


If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck... I'm gonna go ahead and say it is a duck. :u And plenty of XX women can't have babies. Listen... if you want babies... have sex with people who can have babies.

I don't think guys have sex with girls they just met 2 months ago for the express purpose of making a baby to begin with either.
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:27:08 AM
#212:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Haldol posted...
A good enough disguise could fool a dickThat doesn't mean most guys would choose to f*** a transsexual thoughWhy does no one care about the right of the man to have sex with who they want to??


You can have sex with who you want to! Just don't hookup with people you barely know if you want to be sure of their chromosomes first.

:u And sadly, with the stigma in today's world, less and less trans people are even going to want to be honest about it before and after (to avoid getting stabbed). So you guys could be fucking trans people and never find out about it!

Good point

How about also tell people that you aren't a natural woman if you don't want to risk getting hurt?? Why are you giving the trans woman a pass??
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 11:27:17 AM
#213:


is Ophelia for real.

This must be a joke right.
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Twinmold
07/27/17 11:27:47 AM
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Guys, the victim is obviously not the woman who was savagely murdered, it was the man who slept with transexual without knowing!

Sheesh, conservatives these days. I think the woman was wrong to mislead the man about her status as a transgender woman, it may even be criminal. However, every last iota of sympathy leaves my body when the reaction he had was to viciously murder her.

There are some people with really shit morals on this board. Objective fact.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/27/17 11:28:14 AM
#216:


Steve Nick posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
"the transgender"

how about "she"

or if even that makes you uncomfortable (you fucking jabroni)

how about "the victim"


You gonna get offended at me using proper terms to describe things? The fact that the person is transgender is the key motivator in the story.


People like you are vile
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:28:20 AM
#217:


FrenchCrunch posted...
elaborate


Not worth the effort. We disagree. Get over it.
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RockRapDubstep
07/27/17 11:29:22 AM
#218:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
RockRapDubstep posted...
Because they probably believe you to be a biological woman, since trans women are rare, and they would probably expect disclosure of that if it was the case. Like I said, for example you don't expect someone to have a rare disease or anything like that, and in the case that they do, you'd presumably expect their disclosure, right? You wouldn't think to ask that if you didn't have any reason to think that, right? You'd be pretty pissed if they didn't tell you until after, right? And then tried to blame you for not asking first.Gender dysphoria and transgenderism are very rare and uncommon. It's possible to "pass" for a female well enough where it might not be immediately noticable.It doesn't matter if they found the person attractive when they believed they were a woman. Someone doesn't need a reason to have the preferences they have. Trans people are more than well aware that most straight men or straight women aren't interested in them, so it should be disclosed in the same way disease history and stuff should be. You can even argue it isn't rape, but either way it's something on par with knowingly giving someone an STD or something, which is still a crime.


It isn't anything like an STD though. There is no risk to the man's medical wellbeing from not knowing that their partner wasn't biologically female. If he has a stigma against them, he might have some emotional distress, but that is a personal problem.

You have to disclose diseases because of the health risk. Sleeping with a transgender person isn't a risk to your health.

Psychologically it can be. And all trans people know good and well that most straight people aren't interested in them.
And trans people are statistically at a much higher chance of contracting aids/HIV and other diseases and that's something worth taking into consideration for added precaution as well as the trans community having more mental illnesses and mental health issues. Which is also worth mentioning.

If you know someone believes you to be a biological woman, and you sleep with them without saying anything first, you're a piece of human garbage.
Trans people know most people aren't interested in them and should be transparent because of that.
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:29:32 AM
#219:


Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:30:11 AM
#220:


Haldol posted...
Good pointHow about also tell people that you aren't a natural woman if you don't want to risk getting hurt?? Why are you giving the trans woman a pass??


Ideally, you would tell the person if you're wanting more than just a one night stand. That doesn't mean you should be obligated by law to do so though.

Seriously, if they are just hooking up with a person, then why in the world would you bother? He's gonna be gone in the morning anyway. Leave the coin on the dresser and hit the door.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:33:50 AM
#222:


RockRapDubstep posted...
Psychologically it can be. And all trans people know good and well that most straight people aren't interested in them.And trans people are statistically at a much higher chance of contracting aids/HIV and other diseases and that's something worth taking into consideration for added precaution as well as the trans community having more mental illnesses and mental health issues. Which is also worth mentioning.If you know someone believes you to be a biological woman, and you sleep with them without saying anything first, you're a piece of human garbage.Trans people know most people aren't interested in them and should be transparent because of that.


Maybe people shouldn't be hooking up to begin with if they're scared of having sex with a secret transsexual? :u I have no sympathy for men that are getting "tricked" for that reason. Obviously the law agrees with me too, since this guy is going to prison for 40 years with no chance for parole.

Cry for him all you like, but you have no legal protection to back your way of thinking. Just keep your stuff in your pants.
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:34:04 AM
#223:


Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs


A medical professional wouldn't agree that a MtF transgender is the exact same thing as a female that was born female.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/27/17 11:35:20 AM
#224:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Don't know how many generations it will take, but I look forward to the day when society gets over this stigma and parents do a better job raising their kids, so they aren't brought up to be scumbags like you anymore. Vile, vile, vile. You probably think it's being transgender is a psychiatric condition too right.
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:35:54 AM
#226:


It's sad to see how common sense and basic logic are thrown out the window in the name of political correctness.
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faizan_faizan
07/27/17 11:36:22 AM
#227:


Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs

Do you actually read the things you post?
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Steve Nick
07/27/17 11:36:53 AM
#228:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs


A medical professional wouldn't agree that a MtF transgender is the exact same thing as a female that was born female.

they would if they were afraid of the liberal mafia attacking them and tearing down their career
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MLGSerperior111
07/27/17 11:37:01 AM
#229:


The Admiral posted...
Wow, some of these posts...

While I definitely think the transgender person should disclose their biological sex before having intercourse with someone, it isn't rape if they fail to do so. And that never justifies things like assault or murder.

Actually the smartest post in this topic.
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:37:06 AM
#230:


Vindris_SNH posted...
It's sad to see how common sense and basic logic are thrown out the window in the name of political correctness.

it has nothing to do with political correctness

there are 2 factors here

1. facts

2. dont be a dick
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SmidgeIsntBack
07/27/17 11:37:12 AM
#231:


Steve Nick posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Marauder64 posted...
How about flamboyantly gay men, do they have a "woman's mind" too?

Yes, according to bro-culture.



I think you're just making up things to be offended by at this point.

Nobody accuses gay men of 'being women'.


I feel like you've never had a gay friend before.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/27/17 11:37:39 AM
#232:


Vindris_SNH posted...
It's sad to see how common sense and basic logic are thrown out the window in the name of political correctness.


Go back to the 18th century, redhat.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:38:48 AM
#233:


MLGSerperior111 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Wow, some of these posts...

While I definitely think the transgender person should disclose their biological sex before having intercourse with someone, it isn't rape if they fail to do so. And that never justifies things like assault or murder.

Actually the smartest post in this topic.


The admiral has been impressing me lately. :o I never would have expected something so level headed from him.
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:40:06 AM
#234:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Haldol posted...
Good pointHow about also tell people that you aren't a natural woman if you don't want to risk getting hurt?? Why are you giving the trans woman a pass??


Ideally, you would tell the person if you're wanting more than just a one night stand. That doesn't mean you should be obligated by law to do so though.

Seriously, if they are just hooking up with a person, then why in the world would you bother? He's gonna be gone in the morning anyway. Leave the coin on the dresser and hit the door.


You should tell someone because you respect their right to choose whether or not to sleep with a transsexual. Clearly you don't

Do you disrespect people's rights to choose simply because it's a hook up?
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:40:17 AM
#235:


Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Don't know how many generations it will take, but I look forward to the day when society gets over this stigma and parents do a better job raising their kids, so they aren't brought up to be scumbags like you anymore. Vile, vile, vile. You probably think it's being transgender is a psychiatric condition too right.


Gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder.

And there's nothing wrong with calling something what it is. A transgender MtF is not an actual woman. He is a man who feels in his mind that he should be a woman, but he does not have woman parts, so he gets rid of his penis, slaps on a pair of fake tits, takes some drugs to make himself more feminine, and literally imitates an actual female. That does not make him an actual female.
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:42:14 AM
#236:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs


A medical professional wouldn't agree that a MtF transgender is the exact same thing as a female that was born female.

Lmao

No they wouldnt
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RockRapDubstep
07/27/17 11:43:11 AM
#238:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
RockRapDubstep posted...
Psychologically it can be. And all trans people know good and well that most straight people aren't interested in them.And trans people are statistically at a much higher chance of contracting aids/HIV and other diseases and that's something worth taking into consideration for added precaution as well as the trans community having more mental illnesses and mental health issues. Which is also worth mentioning.If you know someone believes you to be a biological woman, and you sleep with them without saying anything first, you're a piece of human garbage.Trans people know most people aren't interested in them and should be transparent because of that.


Maybe people shouldn't be hooking up to begin with if they're scared of having sex with a secret transsexual? :u I have no sympathy for men that are getting "tricked" for that reason. Obviously the law agrees with me too, since this guy is going to prison for 40 years with no chance for parole.

Cry for him all you like, but you have no legal protection to back your way of thinking. Just keep your stuff in your pants.

By that logic you shouldn't do anything that has a 0.3% (it's actually significantly less) chance of happening if you don't want it to happen and if does, it's your fault it did.

Brb creating my Boy in the Plastic Bubble room in an underground nuclear bomb shelter because if I get robbed, assaulted, raped, my identity stolen, get sick, get in a car accident, or have literally anything bad happen to me it was because it was my fault and I was asking for it by not leaving my underground bubble. It's totally not the person who did it's fault for being human garbage, it's mine.
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Chicken
07/27/17 11:43:30 AM
#239:


Haldol posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs


A medical professional wouldn't agree that a MtF transgender is the exact same thing as a female that was born female.

Lmao

No they wouldnt


Now we're just in fairy tale land.
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:43:41 AM
#240:


Vindris_SNH posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
elaborate


Not worth the effort. We disagree. Get over it.

i see. once again when challenged you bow out.

hmmm, i recall you saying you dont tend to do this but w/e
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Sage JJ
07/27/17 11:43:55 AM
#241:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,



More like this is exactly why transgender people need to be upfront about being transgendered from the get go and identify as transmale/transfemale opposed to actual male/females. There is a huge difference tbh. Trans people want so badly to be accepted yet they are so afraid to actually be themselves to the point they deceive and falsely label themselves.
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Marauder64
07/27/17 11:44:34 AM
#242:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Marauder64 posted...
ACTUAL women? No, they are not. A different set of circumstances? No you mean a different set of chromosomes. What if that male that had sex with a transgender that didn't disclose their actual gender wanted to have children? What then? Uh-oh.


If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck... I'm gonna go ahead and say it is a duck. :u And plenty of XX women can't have babies. Listen... if you want babies... have sex with people who can have babies.

I don't think guys have sex with girls they just met 2 months ago for the express purpose of making a baby to begin with either.



Lol. I take it you don't mind being deceived then. It's the principal of it all. If a person doesn't mind deceiving you on something as important as their gender, what ELSE could they be keeping from you? Is that person to be trusted?

I never gave a timeline on when the male wanted to have babies, just that he wanted babies. Is the transgender looking for a long term relationship? Marriage? Like really now. How long is he going to try and keep his gender a secret from his mate, who is none the wiser? To get that delved into a relationship.....it's like a ticking timebomb. Unless that trans is basically and only doing one night stands, what's the point?
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:45:20 AM
#243:


Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Don't know how many generations it will take, but I look forward to the day when society gets over this and let transsexuals lie and get away with it. Raise your kids to respect the rights of all who want to sleep with them over their own. Screw you if you desire a natural born woman/man. You don't matter. Transsexuals are exactly the same inside and out.


Fixed that for you
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:45:56 AM
#244:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
elaborate


Not worth the effort. We disagree. Get over it.

i see. once again when challenged you bow out.

hmmm, i recall you saying you dont tend to do this but w/e


I don't normally do this, but I know when to quit with users like yourself. Expect me to do this a lot when you're involved.
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:47:01 AM
#245:


Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't normally do this, but I know when to quit with users like yourself. Expect me to do this a lot when you're involved.

i expect you to do it a lot regardless. when youre doing it to a levelheaded poster who shows nothing but courtesy (@Asherlee10), then youll do it to anyone
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:48:28 AM
#246:


Chicken posted...
Haldol posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Unfortunately for you most people are bound to listen to medical professionals over some random idiot on GameFAQs


A medical professional wouldn't agree that a MtF transgender is the exact same thing as a female that was born female.

Lmao

No they wouldnt


Now we're just in fairy tale land.

Can you link me to any doctor that says a surgically built person is exactly the same as a natural born person??
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:49:08 AM
#247:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't normally do this, but I know when to quit with users like yourself. Expect me to do this a lot when you're involved.

i expect you to do it a lot regardless. when youre doing it to a levelheaded poster who shows nothing but courtesy (@Asherlee10), then youll do it to anyone


I already explained why that happened, I don't know why you keep bringing it up. Can you not read?

You are the laziest poster I've seen on these forums. You're not worth my time. If you want to start putting effort into your posts, then maybe I'll respond to you seriously.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 11:50:49 AM
#248:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder.And there's nothing wrong with calling something what it is. A transgender MtF is not an actual woman. He is a man who feels in his mind that he should be a woman, but he does not have woman parts, so he gets rid of his penis, slaps on a pair of fake t***, takes some drugs to make himself more feminine, and literally imitates an actual female. That does not make him an actual female.


Just sounds like semantics to me. If you can't perceive a difference then what difference does it make in your day to day life? I just don't see why you can't respect them enough to refer to them as they identify.

I'm not saying you have to have sex with them or marry them or even approve of them, but people are deserving of basic respect. I mean, if someone just started referring to you as a girl all the time, wouldn't that bother you? :u You know yourself to be a guy, so of course it would.

I don't know why people struggle with common courtesy so much on here. I'm a cold hearted bitch, but even I'm better than that. :v
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FrenchCrunch
07/27/17 11:52:05 AM
#249:


Vindris_SNH posted...
You are the laziest poster I've seen on these forums. You're not worth my time. If you want to start putting effort into your posts, then maybe I'll respond to you seriously.

you dont respond to anyone seriously
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/27/17 11:52:05 AM
#250:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Conflict posted...
Transgender women are women


Nah. They're men imitating women.


Don't know how many generations it will take, but I look forward to the day when society gets over this stigma and parents do a better job raising their kids, so they aren't brought up to be scumbags like you anymore. Vile, vile, vile. You probably think it's being transgender is a psychiatric condition too right.


Gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder.

And there's nothing wrong with calling something that.


Yeah, there IS something wrong with calling something that, because it implies it's mental condition that can be treated and put back to order. There's a REASON homosexuality eas declassed as a disorder.

AND NO. Gender dysphoria is NOT a disorder. Where do you even think the term gender dysphoria came from, Einstein?? That's what it they called it when they changed the name from Gender Identity Disorder. They LITERALLY decided it shouldn't be classified as a disorder anymore, decided to call it something different, and here you are arguing it's still the old thing. It's not a disorder it's a dysphoria. LITERALLY right in the fucking name.
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Haldol
07/27/17 11:52:21 AM
#251:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder.And there's nothing wrong with calling something what it is. A transgender MtF is not an actual woman. He is a man who feels in his mind that he should be a woman, but he does not have woman parts, so he gets rid of his penis, slaps on a pair of fake t***, takes some drugs to make himself more feminine, and literally imitates an actual female. That does not make him an actual female.


Just sounds like semantics to me. If you can't perceive a difference then what difference does it make in your day to day life? I just don't see why you can't respect them enough to refer to them as they identify.

I'm not saying you have to have sex with them or marry them or even approve of them, but people are deserving of basic respect.

I mean, if someone just started referring to you as a girl all the time, wouldn't that bother you? :u You know yourself to be a guy, so of course it would.

I don't know why people struggle with common courtesy so much on here. I'm a cold hearted bitch, but even I'm better than that. :v

Basic respect means letting them lie to you
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Vindris_SNH
07/27/17 11:54:54 AM
#252:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
people are deserving of basic respect


I agree. And I don't consider calling someone what they actually are to be disrespectful.
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07/27/17 11:55:38 AM
#253:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
You are the laziest poster I've seen on these forums. You're not worth my time. If you want to start putting effort into your posts, then maybe I'll respond to you seriously.

you dont respond to anyone seriously

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07/27/17 11:57:28 AM
#254:


Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Gender dysphoria is NOT a disorder.


"Gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
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