Current Events > Ex-Navy dude KILLS T-gender WOMAN that he was dating. Stabbed HER 119 times..

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Wolf_J_Flywheel
07/27/17 12:57:03 PM
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I bet he'd prefer trans vagina over all the dick he'll be getting in the big house.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 12:58:03 PM
#306:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
I bet he'd prefer trans vagina over all the dick he'll be getting in the big house.


Now he gets to be someone else's lady. :u Thankfully ironic punishment isn't illegal.
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moose_knuckle
07/27/17 12:58:29 PM
#307:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
I bet he'd prefer trans vagina over all the dick he'll be getting in the big house.


He may be giving it. Don't assume his traditional gender role in a non standard power based subset of society.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
07/27/17 12:58:46 PM
#308:


MysticMismagius posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,
Or, you know, disclose this kind of important information before things get serious.
Why should people have to give out personal info just to have a one night stand though?

because AIDS
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Haldol
07/27/17 1:00:19 PM
#309:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Haldol posted...
So I guess once you're slightly attracted to anything then you have to go all the way?Are guys not allowed to be turned off?? Which they more than likely would be if they knew that they were sleeping with a biological man??


You can be turned off. But you can't hit it, find out they're transgendered, and then stab the girl 119 times. You can be upset, angry, embarrassed, ashamed etc. but you can't kill somebody. Jesus. I shouldn't have to explain this.

Hell, this guy could have told her, "eat shit bitch!" and walked out and never contacted her again and that would have been A okay. He has that right. You can't kill them!

Never said you could or should kill them

But you cannot act like him feeling violated is ok as long as the transsexual gets off and doesn't have their little feelings hurt by the possible rejection.

That level of embarrassment could cause him to feel very angry. Any normal person would. They might even think about lashing out violently. Doesn't mean they should. But anyone would think about that

And no, you can't act like the transsexual doesn't have any hand in their own demise.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/27/17 1:00:40 PM
#310:


TO THE PERSON WHO JUST MESSAGED ME TO EXPLAIN how transgender "traps" are an attack perpetrated by the "Jewry" against the White Man to demasculinize and "guiltify" him and also further along the extinction of the Caucasian race, if you were being purposefully ironic I chuckled, if you were being serious you're total shit and I feel very sorry for you.
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TyYoshi
07/27/17 1:00:40 PM
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Lol.

A topic of pile of shit.

Whoever screams Rape, or, slightly sides with a fuck who kills because oh my god my ego/pride, then go to your hell please.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
07/27/17 1:01:05 PM
#312:


moose_knuckle posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
I bet he'd prefer trans vagina over all the dick he'll be getting in the big house.


He may be giving it. Don't assume his traditional gender role in a non standard power based subset of society.

Eh... I'd say there's 119 reasons why I think he won't be into dicking dudes.
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Stick_1_2_3
07/27/17 1:02:00 PM
#313:


moose_knuckle posted...
Stick_1_2_3 posted...
moose_knuckle posted...
Stick_1_2_3 posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Stick_1_2_3 posted...
Man, now that I think of it, could my wife be a transgender? *Cues X-Files theme*


Only way to know is to get out your eye glass and look up her whoha. :u If you can't see her ovaries then make a run for it!


I am kidding. I've known her since Jr. High, so I am good.

What sucks is some guys can't tell. I mean how can't you tell? Like a regular transgender person doesn't look like Sidney Starr. Even Blair White obviously looks transgendered.


Bigot


Sidney Starr looks, acts, and walks like a female. Heck it looks better than most females. Some dudes don't care but I would. I would be highly upset. That is just me though. I don't think it's rape but I do think you should discourse that information.


If you think they should disclose then you're a bigot.
If you think they don't look like a woman you're a bigot.
If you think they can't actually conceive you're a bigot.


How? Like some guys really cannot tell or not. Most guys that are straight want real born women, not altered ones. If he didn't mind that person wouldn't be stabbed 119 times. I do not believe he was raped.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 1:02:03 PM
#314:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
because AIDS

Is transgenderism an infectious disease?
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 1:02:47 PM
#315:


Haldol posted...
Never said you could or should kill themBut you cannot act like him feeling violated is ok as long as the transsexual gets off and doesn't have their little feelings hurt by the possible rejection.That level of embarrassment could cause him to feel very angry. Any normal person would. They might even think about lashing out violently. Doesn't mean they should. But anyone would think about thatAnd no, you can't act like the transsexual doesn't have any hand in their own demise.


Well yea, no one is innocent. But no one should be defending the murderer over the victim. That is just disgraceful.
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Haldol
07/27/17 1:04:12 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
because AIDS

Is transgenderism an infectious disease?

TyYoshi posted...
Lol.

A topic of pile of shit.

Whoever screams Rape, or, slightly sides with a fuck who kills because oh my god my ego/pride, then go to your hell please.

You can go there for acting like this guys rigjt don't matter

He was raped.
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Stick_1_2_3
07/27/17 1:05:07 PM
#317:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
because AIDS

Is transgenderism an infectious disease?


Way to miss the point.
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Haldol
07/27/17 1:05:49 PM
#318:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Haldol posted...
Never said you could or should kill themBut you cannot act like him feeling violated is ok as long as the transsexual gets off and doesn't have their little feelings hurt by the possible rejection.That level of embarrassment could cause him to feel very angry. Any normal person would. They might even think about lashing out violently. Doesn't mean they should. But anyone would think about thatAnd no, you can't act like the transsexual doesn't have any hand in their own demise.


Well yea, no one is innocent. But no one should be defending the murderer over the victim. That is just disgraceful.

No one is doing that

They are saying that the transsexual was wrong and should have disclosed his sex before they hooked up

He did not. And thus put himself in danger because of it
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 1:06:11 PM
#319:


Haldol posted...
You can go there for acting like this guys rigjt don't matter He was raped.


He wasn't raped. :u Not even admiral, the king of the CE conservatives, thinks he was raped.
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Deadpool_18
07/27/17 1:09:37 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,


Or, you know, disclose this kind of important information before things get serious.

Bigot.


Sure. Whatever.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 1:11:45 PM
#321:


You're a liberal troll in almost every other topic, just giving you what you deserve.
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spikethedevil
07/27/17 1:14:18 PM
#322:


I would says what I think of some of the people in this topic but the last time I called out sick bigots I got modded and they got away with it because Gamefanorthkorea.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 1:15:12 PM
#323:


Haldol posted...
They are saying that the transsexual was wrong and should have disclosed his sex before they hooked up

He did not. And thus put himself in danger because of it

Yes, because there are violent bigots out there in the world. Thank you for admitting that.
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Deadpool_18
07/27/17 1:18:16 PM
#324:


SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
You're a liberal troll in almost every other topic, just giving you what you deserve.


I've no idea what you're referring to.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 1:20:45 PM
#325:


I hope you guys never go to the Philippines. They have lady boys on every street corner. :u Think Malaysia is that way too.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 1:23:03 PM
#326:


Deadpool_18 posted...
SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
You're a liberal troll in almost every other topic, just giving you what you deserve.


I've no idea what you're referring to.

Remember your Mal Fet troll topic?
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refmon
07/27/17 1:29:17 PM
#327:


isnt this rape by deception
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Deadpool_18
07/27/17 1:36:07 PM
#328:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Haldol posted...
They are saying that the transsexual was wrong and should have disclosed his sex before they hooked up

He did not. And thus put himself in danger because of it

Yes, because there are violent bigots out there in the world. Thank you for admitting that.


Violent bigots aside, disclosing this information with your partner is a courtesy that definitely should be exercised. Of course, you shouldn't be fucking murdered for omitting the fact.
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Deadpool_18
07/27/17 1:40:55 PM
#329:


refmon posted...
isnt this rape by deception


Technically, yes.
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Ilishe
07/27/17 2:07:39 PM
#330:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
"I think the plea is a slap in the face,"


While I can understand the sentiment, 40+15 is essentially life in prison for the guy.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 2:09:54 PM
#331:


Deadpool_18 posted...
disclosing this information with your partner is a courtesy that definitely should be exercised.

Sure, it's a courtesy if you intend on continuing and fostering an open and honest relationship with that person. But if neither of you ever intended on that, then there is no such duty. Just as there's no duty on the part of a cis-woman if she's infertile, but both of you never intended on raising a family together in the first place.
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ChaoticKnuckles
07/27/17 2:14:50 PM
#334:


Haldol posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Haldol posted...
Never said you could or should kill themBut you cannot act like him feeling violated is ok as long as the transsexual gets off and doesn't have their little feelings hurt by the possible rejection.That level of embarrassment could cause him to feel very angry. Any normal person would. They might even think about lashing out violently. Doesn't mean they should. But anyone would think about thatAnd no, you can't act like the transsexual doesn't have any hand in their own demise.


Well yea, no one is innocent. But no one should be defending the murderer over the victim. That is just disgraceful.

No one is doing that

They are saying that the transsexual was wrong and should have disclosed his sex before they hooked up

He did not. And thus put himself in danger because of it


This. No is doing that. There's simply no discussion to be had regarding murder. We all agree that it's wrong. We all agree that no matter what this trans woman did, she shouldn't have been murdered. The guy who did it is dead wrong. But we don't live in a perfect world. Trans people have to know how much of sensitive issue this is for many of the very people that they may want to have sex with. To not disclose it is asking for trouble.

If I leave my front door unlocked and someone robs my house by walking through it they're obviously a scumbag for stealing. But what else is everyone going to say? "Dude there are criminal assholes out here, you gotta lock your doors and windows." Trans people know at this point that a violent reaction from a guy you had sex with who you just informed that you used to have a penis is a STRONG possibility. It sucks but it's the world we live in. Do as much as you can to make sure you live to see another day.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 2:16:07 PM
#335:


ChaoticKnuckles posted...
Trans people know at this point that a violent reaction from a guy you had sex with who you just informed that you used to have a penis is a STRONG possibility. It sucks but it's the world we live in. Do as much as you can to make sure you live to see another day.

Yes, we all agree that there are violent bigots out there.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 2:17:18 PM
#336:


26_Sandman_39 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Rape is forced sex, not fucking deception. What information are you entitled to on a drunk hookup? A thousand people could be upset by not being told a thousand things,

Is knowing you have an STD rape?


If it's HIV, it's assault with a deadly weapon at the very least.


yea, the spreading of disease is one thing, accidently having sex with a "man" is another.
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ChaoticKnuckles
07/27/17 2:18:08 PM
#337:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
Trans people know at this point that a violent reaction from a guy you had sex with who you just informed that you used to have a penis is a STRONG possibility. It sucks but it's the world we live in. Do as much as you can to make sure you live to see another day.

Yes, we all agree that there are violent bigots out there.


There are. So why take the risk? Number one is that it's just more decent to tell the guy before you fuck him but more importantly it's much safer than telling after the fact.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 2:18:14 PM
#338:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Rape is forced sex, not fucking deception. What information are you entitled to on a drunk hookup? A thousand people could be upset by not being told a thousand things,

Is knowing you have an STD rape?


If it's HIV, it's assault with a deadly weapon at the very least.


yea, the spreading of disease is one thing, accidently having sex with a "man" is another.

It could violate their personal ethical/religious code.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 2:19:04 PM
#339:


ChaoticKnuckles posted...
There are. So why take the risk? Number one is that it's just more decent to tell the guy before you fuck him but more importantly it's much safer than telling after the fact.

Those same guys will fucking kill you even before you fuck.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 2:19:46 PM
#340:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
There are. So why take the risk? Number one is that it's just more decent to tell the guy before you fuck him but more importantly it's much safer than telling after the fact.

Those same guys will fucking kill you even before you fuck.

Not true.
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 2:23:15 PM
#341:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Rape is forced sex, not fucking deception. What information are you entitled to on a drunk hookup? A thousand people could be upset by not being told a thousand things,

Is knowing you have an STD rape?


If it's HIV, it's assault with a deadly weapon at the very least.


yea, the spreading of disease is one thing, accidently having sex with a "man" is another.


You know it's illegal to give a false identity or willingly deceive someone to have sexual intercourse right?

If I told someone I was Steve from Ohio instead of Kyle from Montana and slept with them I commited a punishable crime.

How is this any different.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 2:24:50 PM
#342:


Zeeak4444 posted...
You know it's illegal to give a false identity or willingly deceive someone to have sexual intercourse right?

Transgender people are not giving a false identity.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/27/17 2:26:50 PM
#343:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
You know it's illegal to give a false identity or willingly deceive someone to have sexual intercourse right?

Transgender people are not giving a false identity.

Some are.
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 2:27:37 PM
#344:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
You know it's illegal to give a false identity or willingly deceive someone to have sexual intercourse right?

Transgender people are not giving a false identity.


It could be argued they're willingly concealing their identify/deceiving the other though.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
07/27/17 2:30:18 PM
#345:


Zeeak4444 posted...
It could be argued they're willingly concealing their identify/deceiving the other though.

Their identity is their legal name and their current gender. They are not 'required' to reveal anything else.
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KStateKing17
07/27/17 2:36:16 PM
#347:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
It could be argued they're willingly concealing their identify/deceiving the other though.

Their identity is their legal name and their current gender. They are not 'required' to reveal anything else.

I'd say age is. If a guy happens to ask, would a person be required to be truthful about sexual history, and could lying before the reveal result in a lawsuit?
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apocalyptic_4
07/27/17 2:36:19 PM
#348:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,


Or, you know, disclose this kind of important information before things get serious.


Why should people have to give out personal info just to have a one night stand though?


Wtf
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 2:36:47 PM
#349:


26_Sandman_39 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Rape is forced sex, not fucking deception. What information are you entitled to on a drunk hookup? A thousand people could be upset by not being told a thousand things,

Is knowing you have an STD rape?


If it's HIV, it's assault with a deadly weapon at the very least.


yea, the spreading of disease is one thing, accidently having sex with a "man" is another.


You know it's illegal to give a false identity or willingly deceive someone to have sexual intercourse right?

If I told someone I was Steve from Ohio instead of Kyle from Montana and slept with them I commited a punishable crime.

How is this any different.


Well strictly from a legal standpoint, the burden on the court to prove rape by conflicting sexuality is a lot easier to prove than one's standard of not having sex with Steves from Ohio.

You have to prove that prior to the encounter that the victim would absolutely, 100% not have had sex. That's why rape by deception is a tricky thing to convict on.


Ah, that was very interesting actually. I appreciate the information.

How do you feel that relates to the discussion at hand from a perversion of ethics/morals standpoint?
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 2:37:11 PM
#350:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,


Or, you know, disclose this kind of important information before things get serious.


Why should people have to give out personal info just to have a one night stand though?


Wtf


would you be willing to give a girl your SSN just to get your dick wet?

.. wait don't answer that.
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 2:39:24 PM
#351:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
It could be argued they're willingly concealing their identify/deceiving the other though.

Their identity is their legal name and their current gender. They are not 'required' to reveal anything else.


No they aren't, but they are being deceitful.

The "victim" in question is not required to retain attraction to someone he previously believed to be born into the opposite sex.
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Patchwork
07/27/17 2:40:12 PM
#352:


RockRapDubstep posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
RockRapDubstep posted...
No, it's like if a man pretended to be a woman and mislead you into having sex with them.

A transgender individual IS NOW a woman. There is no legal duty to disclose your past.

A transgender individual is a transgender individual.
If you're knowingly deceiving someone into a sexual act with you, it's rape. It's pretty black and white.
There's no reason you wouldn't disclose that unless you felt like the person wouldn't sleep with you if they knew. How is that not rape?
Trans people are a very divisive thing and trans people know that. They know exactly what they're doing when they don't tell someone, it's rape.
And if this dumb ass had been transparent up front they wouldn't have been stabbed 119 times to death. He would've just bailed and everyone would've gone home fine.
Not only are you deceiving someone into sex by not telling them, but you're also endangering your well being. You'd have to be stupid not to disclose it, there's no reason not to.


It isn't rape. It was consensual sex on the part of both people. There is no duty to inform about previous gender identity.

Also, it's a disgusting thing to blame a murder victim; you need to reevaluate your priorities.
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Zeeak4444
07/27/17 2:40:55 PM
#353:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

This is EXACTLY why society needs to remove the stigma that transgender individuals, or even just homosexuals, are some kind of 'disgusting' form of people.,


Or, you know, disclose this kind of important information before things get serious.


Why should people have to give out personal info just to have a one night stand though?


Wtf


would you be willing to give a girl your SSN just to get your dick wet?

.. wait don't answer that.


That's a ridiculously loaded and illogical comparison.

Don't be ridiculous you're only hurting your own credibility with stupid shit like that.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/27/17 2:41:06 PM
#354:


Patchwork posted...
It isn't rape. It was consensual sex on the part of both people. There is no duty to inform about previous gender identity. Also, it's a disgusting thing to blame a murder victim; you need to reevaluate your priorities.

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