Current Events > It doesn't matter how much the food costs. Always tip 20%

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Iwin2013 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

The average server probably makes around $20-$25 an hour with tips. That's a very good wage for a job that essentially only requires one to have good people skills.

Supposedly, they only make something like 5/Hr, which I think is either a myth or downright illegal.

That might be their base salary. The employers are legally required to make up the difference if their tips don't get them to minimum wage, so they're always guaranteed at least that. Never seen a case where their tips don't make that and the employer had to make up the difference. Because with tips they make way more than that.
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EvalAngell posted...

Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit.

Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap fucks, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

I hope you got her fired
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Link HT posted...

never change murica

ridiculous fucking system

As an American, I completely agree. The worst part is that you literally have so many people everywhere, as you can see in this topic, defending this piece of shit system.

myztikrice posted...

EvalAngell posted...

Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit.

Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap fucks, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

I hope you got her fired

I would've been like,"Excuse me?"
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DevsBro posted...

It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.

I second this.

But really even if service is total garbage, I'm more likely to still tip and just not go back.

Servers don't want tipping banned because if it did we'd make less money. We're already guaranteed at least minimum wage, tipping allows us to make way more than that. If there was no more tipping many restaurants would probably pay around that area, so that would become our ceiling instead of our floor.

So shaming someone on social media is a punk ass move because odds are there was another customer that made your day. But you choose to go shame someone instead of posting the ticket of the giant ass tip you got from someone else
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I had a friend who worked at Denny's. She regularly brought home 200-300 in tips a night. Plus a base wage of 8.75 (at the time.)

Also, if you're with friends are you each supposed to tip 20% (or whatever percent) or pull your resources and do one tip equaling 20% of total bill? In this scenario you're paying separately for your meals.
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Oh boo hoo. Unless she spent over an hour catering to that table and that table only, she made out just fine.
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myztikrice posted...

EvalAngell posted...

Went to a beergarden with some friends about 2 weeks ago and we ended up getting a table and a server because the high tops by the bar had no place to sit.

Our bill came on one big tab and we all chipped in what we thought was a reasonable amount. (Remember, she's just serving us drinks). So as we're leaving the waitress tracks us down. I thought she was going to say we forgot something or to thank us again. Instead she says "Thanks you cheap fucks, glad you could spare some change for me!" Apparently my friend who calculated the bill and handed the cash over only left her like 10 bucks on a $100+ tab. Not a good look but whatever.

I hope you got her fired

nah we were pretty buzzed and just laughed it off. we go there every now and then too so can't afford to be starting shit and not be welcomed back.
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often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work.

Yeah...this person doesn't wait tables

Anyway, I'd also like to deal away with the tipping system. Joe 9-5 has proven they given actual power over another person's wages, they'll abuse it to their own benefit

If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.
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Anisoptera posted...

thanosibe posted...

Why does tipping trigger CE so much?

A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant

they have to protect the scam or else they are getting min wage just like burger flippers
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WaterLink posted...

Servers don't want tipping banned because if it did we'd make less money. We're already guaranteed at least minimum wage, tipping allows us to make way more than that.

stop exposing the scam!
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Wtf is that image? Haha what an entitled POS.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

Is this a real post
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ModLogic posted...

Anisoptera posted...

thanosibe posted...

Why does tipping trigger CE so much?

A lot of people on CE have worked in a restaurant

they have to protect the scam or else they are getting min wage just like burger flippers

"Tip?! What do mean tip?! It's says 2 for 22, so that's what we're paying!"

That's what you sound like. Thankfully, people of your ilk tend to frequent the applebees/chilis/Friday's of the world and I was smart enough when waiting tables to avoid working at such places
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FrisbeeDude posted...

often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work.

Yeah...this person doesn't wait tables

Oh but I do. Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

smart enough when waiting tables

lmfao
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DevsBro posted...

It would be nice if more places just banned tipping, increased their prices, and payed a fair wage. The whole system is stupid. I'd rather just pay the money up front. That said, until that happens you should always tip unless service is absolute garbage.

I second this.

But really even if service is total garbage, I'm more likely to still tip and just not go back.

In certain countries Tipping is considered an insult. I know from what I've heard is that in Japan and South Korea, they'll essentially consider it one. Due to how well they're already being paid over there.
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Monday posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

Is this a real post

You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Yaridovich posted...

My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.

i bet you don't actually do this IRL because you're afraid of the repercussions and you just want to sound like a tough guy on CE

This is what's fucked up about the system. What fucking repercussions? Threatening customers with bad service or downright fucking with your orders because they didn't TIP whatever amount someone feels is necessary is BEYOND fucked up. Tipping is supposed to be something extra for good or exceptional service, someone who is just doing their job should get 0% extra, just like everyone else on the planet doing their jobs.

Abolish that shit and don't blame consumers, blame shitty employers.
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Darkman124 posted...

thanosibe posted...

I should have been more clear. I was directing that at the people b****ing about having to tip. Every time there's a thread about tipping people show what cheapskates they are despite wanting to eat at sit in restaurants. I always tip heavy because I've thankfully never had to work in a restaurant.

it has been an edgy thing to claim you dont tip ever since reservoir dogs came out 25 years ago

Figures a Tarantino movie would promote shitty behavior.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Monday posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

Is this a real post

You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?

So it's not, gotcha. Nobody is this intentionally inflammatory and isn't just shitposting.
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Link HT posted...

blame s***ty employers.

not solely the employers fault. greedy emoyees are also to blame because they also actively keep the scam going.
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Tipping is supposed to be something extra for good or exceptional service,

Except in the American bar and restaurant industry, it's painfully common knowledge that tipping is essential to a waitstaff/barstaff's livelihood and the reason while your meal is priced what it is
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Monday posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Monday posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

Is this a real post

You really think labor costs are factored into that $15 steak you dumped ketchup on?

So it's not, gotcha. Nobody is this intentionally inflammatory and isn't just shitposting.

Ok
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i almost exclusively go out during happy hr/restaurant week, so i tip about 25%

works itself out to a very forgettable, average tip which is what i aim for.

the idea that tipping really well will make a bartender notice who you are and 'hook you up' has always amused me. worst investment possible. i do what is expected as part of the system and punish those who fuck it up.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work.
If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks
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I just tipped 3 on a 16 dollar bill yesterday. Just short of 20, but I still felt generous. In speaking, I need to leave a very negative review of the place on yelp when I get home.
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ManBeast462 posted...

By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks

while it doesnt go to the cooks, typically a chunk of the tip is shared with busboys and other laborers
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ManBeast462 posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work.
If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks

1. A lot of restaurants do
2. Those that don't, typically are paid more than minimum wage. Their checks aren't dependent on the ignorant and/or cheap
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FrisbeeDude posted...

, it's painfully common knowledge that tipping is essential to a waitstaff/barstaff's livelihood

apparently most of these unskilled workers are ignorant that they signed up for the roulette wage job and the customer has no obligation to bail them out or play along woth their scam
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FrisbeeDude posted...

ManBeast462 posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

often coming home with a couple hundred a night in cash for just a few hours work.
If you don't tip your server. You're literally stealing their labor. That's all there is to it.

By this logic, you should be tipping the cooks

1. A lot of restaurants do
2. Those that don't, typically are paid more than minimum wage. Their checks aren't dependent on the ignorant and/or cheap

I used to be a cook and it drove me nuts that I came to the restaurant after they made the decision to stop splitting the tips with the kitchen staff. The restaurant was almost always busy but no matter how many dishes I pump out, the pay was always the same. When I tip, I normally tip because I enjoyed my food (and because it's expected of me), but now that I've worked in the kitchen and never got that satisfaction of hearing any compliments from customers and have to see their cleaned out plates in the dishwasher to proverbially get it, and how I'm constantly working in the heat and every time I look for servers, they're on their phone or just chatting, the whole tipping situation just sours me.
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MorbidFaithless posted...

Also, if you're with friends are you each supposed to tip 20% (or whatever percent) or pull your resources and do one tip equaling 20% of total bill? In this scenario you're paying separately for your meals.

You realise it's the same price either way. @MorbidFaithless
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Anisoptera posted...

This chick makes $16 waiting on ONE table, which is like 30 mins max, and she complaining.

She's working a fucking minimum wage job and making double or maybe quadruple minimum wage.


I'll just tip $0 from now on.
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It's unrealistic expectation to expect a waiter to always be in a preppy mood during their entire shift. Especially when customers can be too demanding or asking for too much and the restaurant is super busy. Putting on a fake smile and fake act takes a lot of energy.

And yet who had to make all that food while other tables were waiting for theirs? Any old sap can carry a tray.

fenderbender321 posted...

Yaridovich posted...

My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.

You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?

then go to federal prison
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America is weird. Making $16 for serving one table is something to be snarky about?

It's almost like the 20% tip system is a load of crap. Pretty stupid how a table of 4 ordering $100 worth of food has to tip more than a table of 2 ordering $200 worth of food. Surely larger tables are more work.
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The standard tip is 10%. Always has been.

The job didn't get any harder in the last couple decades. Servers have just gotten more lippy and pressured people into giving more.

Most servers make way more than minimum wage and they're doing a minimum wage quality job.
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Transcendentia posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

People like that make me want to tip less tbh

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Steve Nick posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Yaridovich posted...

My policy is a 0% tip. I always put lines through the tip section of receipts too so nobody writes one in.

You realize the server can just re-print the CC slip, write in a tip, and then forge your signature, right?

then go to federal prison

I think the point is that the drawing a line through it doesn't prevent anything.
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Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough. From your perspective it seems like all they do is fill your drinks and hand you your food, but there's so much more to it.

Anisoptera posted...

Servers are overworkered and don't get paid enough. From your perspective it seems like all they do is fill your drinks and hand you your food, but there's so much more to it.

we don't even know the first thing about this experience though

it is very possible to order that much without being much work

I'm not saying that's the case here but there's a wide variance in how difficult customers are to serve...
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Yah, and tip on the original price, not the price after the crazy $20 off coupon you used.

Damn, I didn't even see that picture in the op. I fuckin hated verbal/written tips. If you're gonna tip like shit I'd rather you just lie and say the service sucked or the food sucked or something.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

People like that make me want to tip less tbh

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