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Antifar
07/19/17 1:38:20 PM
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https://theintercept.com/2017/07/19/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to-criminally-outlaw-support-for-boycott-campaign-against-israel/
A group of 43 Senators – 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats – want to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: anyone guilty of violating its prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000, and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC].” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 Lobbying Agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year:

The bill’s co-sponsors include the senior Democrat in Washington, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, his New York colleague Kirsten Gillibrand, and several of the Senate’s more liberal members, such as Ron Wyden of Oregon, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Maria Cantwell of Washington. Illustrating the bipartisanship that AIPAC typically summons, it also includes several of the most right-wing Senators such as Ted Cruz of Texas, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Marco Rubio of Florida.

A similar measure was introduced in the House on the same date by two Republicans and one Democrat. It already has amassed 234 co-sponsors: 63 Democrats and 174 Republicans. As in the Senate, AIPAC has assembled an impressive ideological diversity among supporters, predictably including many of the most right-wing House members – Jason Chaffetz, Liz Cheney, Peter King – along with the second-ranking Democrat in the House, Steny Hoyer.

Among the co-sponsors of the bill are several of the politicians who have become political celebrities by positioning themselves as media leaders of the anti-Trump #Resistance, including three California House members who have become heroes to Democrats and staples of the cable news circuit: Ted Lieu, Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell. These politicians, who have built a wide public following by posturing as opponents of authoritarianism, are sponsoring one of the most oppressive and authoritarian bills that has pended before Congress in quite some time.

LAST NIGHT, the ACLU posted a letter it sent to all members of the Senate urging them to oppose this bill. Warning that “proponents of the bill are seeking additional co-sponsors,” the civil liberties group explained that “it would punish individuals for no reason other than their political beliefs.” The letter detailed what makes this bill so particularly threatening to basic civic freedoms:

https://cdn01.theintercept.com/wp-uploads/sites/1/2017/07/aclu1-1500467719-540x433.png

It is no small thing for the ACLU to insert itself into this controversy. One of the most traumatic events in the organization’s history was when it lost large numbers of donors and supporters in the late 1970s after they defended the free speech rights of neo-Nazis to march through Skokie, Illinois, a town with a large community of Holocaust survivors.

Even the bravest of organizations often steadfastly avoid any controversies relating to Israel. Yet here, while appropriately pointing out that the ACLU “takes no position for or against the effort to boycott Israel or any foreign country,” they categorically denounce this AIPAC-sponsored proposal for what it is: a bill that “seeks only to punish the exercise of constitutional rights.”

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VectorChaos
07/19/17 1:40:10 PM
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Darkman124
07/19/17 1:41:07 PM
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i'm gonna call cardin's office and bitch them out today

not that it will accomplish anything
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Antifar
07/19/17 1:42:31 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
i'm gonna call cardin's office and bitch them out today

Here's a fun part

Perhaps most stunning is our interview with the primary sponsor of the bill, Democratic Senator Benjamin Cardin, who seemed to have no idea what was in his bill, particularly insisting that it contains no criminal penalties.

But as the ACLU put it, “violations would be subject to a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $ 1 million and 20 years in prison.”

That’s because, as Josh Ruebner expertly detailed when the bill was first unveiled, “the bill seeks to amend two laws – the Export Administration Act of 1979 and the Export-Import Bank Act of 1945,” and “the potential penalties for violating this bill are steep: a minimum $250,000 civil penalty and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years imprisonment, as stipulated in the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.”

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Duncanwii
07/19/17 1:46:20 PM
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I say companies like Google and Amazon should make a statement about this by cutting their services to Israel if this passes. This is sickening.
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hockeybub89
07/19/17 1:47:45 PM
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What is support considered in this Bill?

Not saying I agree with it.
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Kaname_Madoka
07/19/17 1:47:46 PM
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wtf. americans can literally boycott AMERICA
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OrtegaTron
07/19/17 2:05:58 PM
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Israel more or less exists only because of America's influence. Truman recognized their independence and we've been their staunch supporters since. A symbol of The West in the middle east.
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Duncanwii
07/19/17 2:08:10 PM
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OrtegaTron posted...
Israel more or less exists only because of America's influence. Truman recognized their independence and we've been their staunch supporters since. A symbol of The West in the middle east.

Isreal exists because of the bible. America only supports it because most of not all of our politicians are Christian. I don't believe Isreal has any more or less importance than any any other country.
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darkphoenix181
07/19/17 2:09:58 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
Israel more or less exists only because of America's influence. Truman recognized their independence and we've been their staunch supporters since. A symbol of The West in the middle east.

Isreal exists because of the bible. America only supports it because most of not all of our politicians are Christian. I don't believe Isreal has any more or less importance than any any other country.


except modern Israel became a thing after the holocaust

what part of the bible mentions this?

perhaps the Jewish refugees and survivors wanted to move to Israel because of their forefathers living there in bible times and after bible times,
but the part that made this all happen was the tragedy
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OrtegaTron
07/19/17 2:10:36 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
Israel more or less exists only because of America's influence. Truman recognized their independence and we've been their staunch supporters since. A symbol of The West in the middle east.

Isreal exists because of the bible. America only supports it because most of not all of our politicians are Christian. I don't believe Isreal has any more or less importance than any any other country.

Excuse me, I meant modern Israel. Ancient Israel was gone before declaring independence and gaining US support in 1948. Like I said, they are a symbolic of western civilization amongst Arab nations. Like a big middle finger.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/19/17 2:10:58 PM
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And America will keep licking Israels feet because reasons.
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Verdekal
07/19/17 2:11:03 PM
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There is such a thing as thoughtcrime and we should be proud to acknowledge it.
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uwnim
07/19/17 2:12:52 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What is support considered in this Bill?

Not saying I agree with it.

I'd like the know this so if this would pass I'd be able to support the boycott.
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Darkman124
07/19/17 2:30:47 PM
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OrtegaTron posted...
Duncanwii posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
Israel more or less exists only because of America's influence. Truman recognized their independence and we've been their staunch supporters since. A symbol of The West in the middle east.

Isreal exists because of the bible. America only supports it because most of not all of our politicians are Christian. I don't believe Isreal has any more or less importance than any any other country.

Excuse me, I meant modern Israel. Ancient Israel was gone before declaring independence and gaining US support in 1948. Like I said, they are a symbolic of western civilization amongst Arab nations. Like a big middle finger.


we did nothing for them in 1948

it was actually france who made sure they won that war
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AmonAmarth
07/19/17 2:34:17 PM
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so they have enough money for sending to Israel,
but not enough for NASA or improving infrastrucutre?
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Duncanwii
07/19/17 2:35:24 PM
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Isreal uses their Biblical roots to steal land and massacre innocents while all the while making themselves out to be the good guys. Isreal is just as bad as Palestine and the only reason we support them instead of sanctioning them hard is religion. As an Atheist I find this deplorable.
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AmonAmarth
07/19/17 2:36:23 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Isreal exists because of the bible. America only supports it because most of not all of our politicians are Christian. I don't believe Isreal has any more or less importance than any any other country.


inaccurate.

Israel exists because of Theodre Herzl and the Rothschilds funding it.

Outside of a minority of Christians (who call themselves Christian Zionists) modern Israel has nothing to do with the Bible.

The Christian Zionist population in the US is 80 million. I forget the total Christian population.

*You also forgot to mention dozens and dozens of Israel/Zio lobbies (major one is AIPAC).
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/19/17 2:37:22 PM
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I support Israel fully but this bill is a fucking dumb rights violation at best.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/19/17 2:37:31 PM
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Can't wait for the troll brigade to come in and defend this POS bill.
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VectorChaos
07/19/17 2:39:16 PM
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Christian Zionists need to fucking go away from government
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darkphoenix181
07/19/17 2:41:41 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Isreal uses their Biblical roots to steal land and massacre innocents while all the while making themselves out to be the good guys. Isreal is just as bad as Palestine and the only reason we support them instead of sanctioning them hard is religion. As an Atheist I find this deplorable.


you realize they have historical roots as well that go way past biblical record?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel#Modern_history_.281517.E2.80.93present.29

The 16th-century nevertheless saw a resurgence of Jewish life in Palestine. Palestinian rabbis were instrumental producing a universally accepted manual of Jewish law and some of the most beautiful liturgical poems. Much of this activity occurred at Safed which had become a spiritual centre, a haven for mystics. Joseph Karo's comprehensive guide to Jewish law, the Shulchan Aruch, was considered so authoritative that the variant customs of German-Polish Jewry were merely added as supplement glosses.

In around 1563, Joseph Nasi secured permission from Sultan Selim II to acquire Tiberias and seven surrounding villages to create a Jewish city-state.[130] He hoped that large numbers of Jewish refugees and Marranos would settle there, free from fear and oppression; indeed, the persecuted Jews of Cori, Italy, numbering about 200 souls, decided to emigrate to Tiberias.[131][132] Nasi had the walls of the town rebuilt by 1564 and attempted to turn it into a self-sufficient textile manufacturing center by planting mulberry trees for the cultivation of silk. Nevertheless, a number of factors during the following years contributed to the plan's ultimate failure. Nasi's aunt, Doña Gracia Mendes Nasi supported a yeshiva in the town for many years until her death in 1569.[133]

In 1576, the Jewish community of Safed faced an expulsion order: 1,000 prosperous families were to be deported to Cyprus, "for the good of the said island", with another 500 the following year.[135] The order was later rescinded due to the realisation of the financial gains of Jewish rental income.[136] In 1586, the Jews of Istanbul agreed to build a fortified khan to provide a refuge for Safed's Jews against "night bandits and armed thieves."[135]


During the Peasants' Revolt under Muhammad Ali of Egypt's occupation, Jews were targeted in the 1834 looting of Safed and the 1834 Hebron massacre. By 1844, some sources report that Jews had become the largest population group in Jerusalem and by 1890 an absolute majority in the city, but as a whole the Jewish population made up far less than 10% of the region.



ah but hate on the bible

go on
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/19/17 2:42:26 PM
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There really should be some time of punishment for bad faith laws like this. It would never happen but god fucking damn. Attempting to infringe on rights, even if just until the court throws it out, needs to carry some punishment.
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Tropicalwood
07/19/17 2:44:39 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I support Israel fully but this bill is a fucking dumb rights violation at best.

Clearly it isn't a rights violation considering courts have put christian bakeries out of business for refusing to sell cakes to gay couples.

Maybe America should stop being anti-semitic.
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charey
07/19/17 2:46:04 PM
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How could this even work? Are they going to force everyone to buy something from Israel?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/19/17 2:46:40 PM
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Boycotts are about consumers, not producers.

The cake company wasn't boycotting gays, you fucking twit. Worth all 3 karma.

You fucking troll ass twit.
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Tropicalwood
07/19/17 2:48:28 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Boycotts are about consumers, not producers.

The cake company wasn't boycotting gays, you fucking twit. Worth all 3 karma.

You fucking troll ass twit.

You know you need to be at least 13 to create an account here.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/19/17 2:50:58 PM
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My account is 12 and what is this?
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Tropicalwood
07/19/17 2:51:43 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
My account is 12 and what is this?

B7, creating an account at the age of 2 months.
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Nomadic View
07/19/17 3:00:21 PM
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I support Israel...but making it a crime to not support them financially is overstepping.
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Sad_Face
07/19/17 3:17:57 PM
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uwnim posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
What is support considered in this Bill?

Not saying I agree with it.

I'd like the know this so if this would pass I'd be able to support the boycott.


I too am curious about how to break a law by supporting this boycott because this looks like a clear case of infringing on the rights denoted by the constitution.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/19/17 3:28:55 PM
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Israel will thrive against everyone. You are pretty ignorant to think they need us to kick ass.
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/19/17 3:30:43 PM
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The US government: continuing to protect us by violating basic rights.

This is a fucking joke. Fuck Israel.
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Flermin
07/19/17 3:43:52 PM
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republicans supporting this is the ultimate irony
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ArchiePeck
07/19/17 3:45:57 PM
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#boycottIsraeliapartheid
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Questionmarktarius
07/19/17 3:50:46 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
I say companies like Google and Amazon should make a statement about this by cutting their services to Israel if this passes. This is sickening.

Why punish Israel for some dumb thing the USA did?
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AmonAmarth
07/19/17 4:21:38 PM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
The US government: continuing to protect us by violating basic rights.

This is a f***ing joke. f*** Israel.


do what Australia did.
ban duel citizenship in government positions.
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LepartialJury
07/20/17 12:32:35 AM
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Oh geez
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UncleBourbon33
07/20/17 12:43:29 AM
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ArchiePeck posted...
#boycottIsraeliapartheid

Israel isn't apartheid and it trivializes actual apartheid to say it is.
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Kazi1212
07/20/17 12:46:30 AM
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This just goes to show how powerful and influential the Israeli lobbies are on Capitol Hill. Russia's influence on our politics doesn't come close to how much Israel has influenced our foreign policy
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Mandasnake
07/20/17 12:47:21 AM
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Wtf? I don't give two shits about BDS either way, but this is straight up fascism.
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Transcendentia
07/20/17 12:49:03 AM
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we better keep increasing taxes, the beast clearly isn't being fed enough

it needs to become even more powerful
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Mandasnake
07/20/17 12:54:07 AM
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Like I don't care about Israel either way, but does it make me a bad person because this makes me actually want to boycott them? Just to fight against big government?
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Esrac
07/20/17 1:01:04 AM
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I'm in favor of Israel and all, but this is a stupid proposal.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/20/17 4:03:34 AM
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TheFuzz3451
07/20/17 4:42:09 AM
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isn't this a blatant violation of the first amendment
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Antifar
07/20/17 12:39:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/888072743249465345
That's Eliot Engel, (D-NY), representing the Bronx
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Wedge Antilles
07/20/17 1:36:28 PM
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I'm pro Israel, but this seems dumb.
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darkphoenix181
07/20/17 1:38:00 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Fuck Israel.


enjoy prison
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SpiritSephiroth
07/21/17 8:21:46 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Fuck Israel.


enjoy prison


Better than supporting that Anti-everything except Israel "state".
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