Current Events > Healthcare bill officially dead

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Trump tweets for straight repeal.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Trump tweets for straight repeal.

Trump Keeps Losing.
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kingdrake2 posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

Trump tweets for straight repeal.

Trump Keeps Losing.

Honestly a straight repeal might have a better chance. Don't forget they were losing people like Mike Lee and Rand Paul that would jump at a straight repeal.
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Maybe the republicans can come up with a good deal next time.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Trump tweets for removing 22 million Americans from healthcare without a viable replacement for them.

Seems like an interesting strategy
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I thought the plan was supposed to be let it fail now?

Straight repeal seems dumb.
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Healthcare officially dead
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Straight repeal seems dumb.

Not really as it would force democrats to work with them to get at least something done. Right now there is zero incentive for democrats to be reasonable. Take away everything and it's either gonna stay that way or they help put something in place. It's yer standard 18-D chess move.
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Good fucking luck, conservative. Keep on taking that big old shit all over our country, see which way the stink blows in a couple years.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Right now there is zero incentive for democrats to be reasonable

why is it on Democrats to pull the GOP's ass out of the fire on this
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Doom_Art posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

Right now there is zero incentive for democrats to be reasonable

why is it on Democrats to pull the GOP's ass out of the fire on this

You literally just reworded what I said. Do you have a point?
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Gojak_v3 posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Straight repeal seems dumb.

Not really as it would force democrats to work with them to get at least something done. Right now there is zero incentive for democrats to be reasonable. Take away everything and it's either gonna stay that way or they help put something in place. It's yer standard 18-D chess move.

>Democrats take presidency and congress
"Democrats are ruining everything"
>Republicans take presidency and congress back from Democrats
"Democrats are ruining everything"

k
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Gojak_v3 posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

Trump tweets for straight repeal.

Trump Keeps Losing.

Honestly a straight repeal might have a better chance. Don't forget they were losing people like Mike Lee and Rand Paul that would jump at a straight repeal.

A straight repel would drive off other republicans though. Those who's voting base actually benefits from ACA wouldn't want to support straight repel since it would cause problems when they are up for reelection.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Straight repeal seems dumb.

Not really as it would force democrats to work with them to get at least something done. Right now there is zero incentive for democrats to be reasonable. Take away everything and it's either gonna stay that way or they help put something in place. It's yer standard 18-D chess move.

>Democrats take presidency and congress
"Democrats are ruining everything"
>Republicans take presidency and congress back from Democrats
"Democrats are ruining everything"

k

"Gojak posted"

k
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Gojak_v3 posted...

You literally just reworded what I said. Do you have a point?

You're whining that "Democrats are being unreasonable"

Why does the GOP need Democrats? They have the majority, they can do it themselves.


Seems to me like you're blaming the Democrats for the GOP's inability to govern.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

>Democrats take presidency and congress
"Democrats are ruining everything"
>Republicans take presidency and congress back from Democrats
"Democrats are ruining everything"

k

I'm glad yer finally getting it. When they refuse to help fix the bill they did that literally everyone knows will eventually fail on it's own.
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Republicans spend 7 years bitching about obamacare - even shutting down the government for it. Now when they control the government, they can't even fucking do the one thing that they wanted.

Literally a fucking disgrace. Shouldn't be allowed to keep office. It's the functional equivalent of not doing your homework for almost a decade.
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_Near_ posted...

Republicans spend 7 years bitching about obamacare - even shutting down the government for it. Now when they control the government, they can't even fucking do the one thing that they wanted.

Literally a fucking disgrace. Shouldn't be allowed to keep office. It's the functional equivalent of not doing your homework for almost a decade.

I don't know about you, but if I showed up to work and didn't do my job, I'd be fired.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

>Democrats take presidency and congress
"Democrats are ruining everything"
>Republicans take presidency and congress back from Democrats
"Democrats are ruining everything"

k

I'm glad yer finally getting it. When they refuse to help fix the bill they did that literally everyone knows will eventually fail on it's own.

Democrats: *Pass bill*
Republicans: *massive tax cuts* "Why did you pass that bill if you had no way to pay for it?"
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Doom_Art posted...

Seems to me like you're blaming the Democrats for the GOP's inability to govern.

Seems to me like you favor obstruction to keep a bill in place that has already showed signs of failing and will continue to do so. So yeah unreasonable fits when that's on the horizon.

Doom_Art posted...

I don't know about you, but if I showed up to work and didn't do my job, I'd be fired.

They were: 2010, 2014, 2016 all say high.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

They were: 2010, 2014, 2016 all say high.

Those years must have been pretty dank
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A straight repeal would be great.
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.
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_Near_ posted...

DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.

Or he realizes appeal to emotion arguments are nothing but bullshit since they can be used to justify literally everything.
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Is this a real topic?
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Or he realizes appeal to emotion arguments are nothing but bullshit since they can be used to justify literally everything.

in the mind of the trumpanzee, taking away insurance from millions of people is simply an emotional argument
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Gojak_v3 posted...

_Near_ posted...

DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.

Or he realizes appeal to emotion arguments are nothing but bullshit since they can be used to justify literally everything.

"Repealing this will leave millions uninsured while you figure out a new plan"

"Emotional appeal!"
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They're pretending Democrats are the party of obstruction now?
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_Near_ posted...

DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.

Oooh nooo, I'd feel so bad if this poor man lost his insurance.

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Straight repeal would at minimum cost them Collins, Murkowski, and Flake so it's a no-go

but i expect many others wouldn't do it either
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Dewitos
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Gojak_v3 posted...

_Near_ posted...

DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.

Or he realizes appeal to emotion arguments are nothing but bullshit since they can be used to justify literally everything.

You literally want the GOP to hold the uninsured populace hostage to force the Dems to "play ball" (aka give them everything they want).

How dare you accuse others of emotional arguments?

over 7 years to come up with a replacement for OBAMACARE and they keep failing...republicans, everyone...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

_Near_ posted...

DragonGirlYuki posted...

A straight repeal would be great.

if you want to leave millions uninsured, yeah.

but i would expect you're either ignorant enough so you don't know that, or callous enough not to care.

Or he realizes appeal to emotion arguments are nothing but bullshit since they can be used to justify literally everything.

You literally want the GOP to hold the uninsured populace hostage to force the Dems to "play ball" (aka give them everything they want).

How dare you accuse others of emotional arguments?

damn right i do, make dems walk the plank maybe then the republican's can get some work done around in congress for once. democrats are impeding change.

dollarflashsale posted...

damn right i do, make dems walk the plank maybe then the republican's can get some work done around in congress for once. democrats are impeding change.

that is traditionally the role of the minority party, yes. when there are no changes offered that the minority party wants, they have no reason to help.

when the negotiating style is all stick and no carrot, and visible divisions among the other side are present, you can let their own members prevent them from accomplishing anything.

the GOP healthcare bills at present were all designed with carrots for their own members, not for dems. they were never expected to garner any dem votes.

a full repeal would have even fewer, and since it won't be symbolic this time, anyone with reservations will not support it.
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Reminder that Trumpanzees thinks that threatening the populace with financial disaster is a proper way for the GOP to govern, and is also not an appeal to emotion somehow even though they're literally appealing to the better nature of the opposition party.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politics/mcconell-repreal-and-replace-obamacare-not-successful/index.html

Minutes after McConnell finished, Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a West Virginia Republican, announced her opposition to repeal only plan.

"My position on this issue is driven by its impact on West Virginians," she said in a statement. "With that in mind, I cannot vote to repeal Obamacare without a replacement plan that addresses my concerns and the needs of West Virginians."

Maine GOP Sen. Susan Collins is also against the measure, her office said.

on a related note, why is Mitch McConell such a piece of shit and why won't that fuck go away?

TheVipaGTS posted...

on a related note, why is Mitch McConell such a piece of shit and why won't that fuck go away?

He looks like Franklin the Turtle

TheVipaGTS posted...

on a related note, why is Mitch McConell such a piece of shit and why won't that fuck go away?

This reminds me: What happened to Trump and his promise of term limits?
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Conservatives like Gojack are the most fucking cruel, guiltless people on the face of the planet. Heads up their own asses, sniffing the vapors of the Ayn Rand-with-a-side-of-beans lunch platter they've been gorging themselves on the last 50 fucking years. Take a hike, we the people don't WANT what you're selling. Rather have a government that ISNT dysfunctional and rich people who pay their fair share of the fucking taxes. You LOST the popular vote, never forget it.
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

Rather have a government that ISNT dysfunctional and rich people who pay their fair share of the fucking taxes.

Take a hike, son

Rich people already pay their fair share
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TheVipaGTS posted...

on a related note, why is Mitch McConell such a piece of shit and why won't that fuck go away?

he is one of the very, very few people on this Earth who could die right now and I'd actually celebrate
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GeneralZhao posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

on a related note, why is Mitch McConell such a piece of shit and why won't that fuck go away?

he is one of the very, very few people on this Earth who could die right now and I'd actually celebrate

The only person whose death I'd celebrate is Ajit Pai.
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GeneralZhao posted...

he is one of the very, very few people on this Earth who could die right now and I'd actually celebrate

i wouldn't go that far, i just want the idiot out of politics...his fake concern for the American People pisses me the fuck off.

Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

Conservatives like Gojack are the most fucking cruel, guiltless people on the face of the planet. Heads up their own asses, sniffing the vapors of the Ayn Rand-with-a-side-of-beans lunch platter they've been gorging themselves on the last 50 fucking years. Take a hike, we the people don't WANT what you're selling. Rather have a government that ISNT dysfunctional and rich people who pay their fair share of the fucking taxes. You LOST the popular vote, never forget it.

It's what happens when you live in your parent's basement and don't participate in the real world.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politics/mcconell-repreal-and-replace-obamacare-not-successful/index.html

Minutes after McConnell finished, Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a West Virginia Republican, announced her opposition to repeal only plan.

"My position on this issue is driven by its impact on West Virginians," she said in a statement. "With that in mind, I cannot vote to repeal Obamacare without a replacement plan that addresses my concerns and the needs of West Virginians."

Maine GOP Sen. Susan Collins is also against the measure, her office said.

Heller, Murkowski, and Portman are also likely to vote no on repeal. Pretty much any Senator from a Medicaid expansion State will be committing political suicide if they vote to repeal the ACA.
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Bio1590 posted...

Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

Conservatives like Gojack are the most fucking cruel, guiltless people on the face of the planet. Heads up their own asses, sniffing the vapors of the Ayn Rand-with-a-side-of-beans lunch platter they've been gorging themselves on the last 50 fucking years. Take a hike, we the people don't WANT what you're selling. Rather have a government that ISNT dysfunctional and rich people who pay their fair share of the fucking taxes. You LOST the popular vote, never forget it.

It's what happens when you live in your parent's basement and don't participate in the real world.

Can we stop with this repetitive diss? It's getting old.

Like anyone can say this. Like dude could be making 85K/year and saying this.

Even though I think we should be done away with Healthcare straight appeal
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donkeyjack posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

Conservatives like Gojack are the most fucking cruel, guiltless people on the face of the planet. Heads up their own asses, sniffing the vapors of the Ayn Rand-with-a-side-of-beans lunch platter they've been gorging themselves on the last 50 fucking years. Take a hike, we the people don't WANT what you're selling. Rather have a government that ISNT dysfunctional and rich people who pay their fair share of the fucking taxes. You LOST the popular vote, never forget it.

It's what happens when you live in your parent's basement and don't participate in the real world.

Can we stop with this repetitive diss? It's getting old.

Like anyone can say this. Like dude could be making 85K/year and saying this.

Even though I think we should be done away with Healthcare straight appeal

This is Gojak though. The guy who makes literal topics about shit and doesn't understand female orgasms