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Wutobliteration
07/18/17 9:56:49 AM
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if one or more of your loved ones was one day involved and killed in a shooting massacre? The shooting massacre was caused by a mentally disturbed killer who just bought a rifle at a nearby store. Would you still be in support of such lax gun laws? Especially when such an event could have easily been prevented if the killer did not have such easy access to guns?
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Wedge Antilles
07/18/17 9:58:38 AM
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I assume their answer will be "the shooter killed them, not the gun"
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Wutobliteration
07/18/17 10:01:52 AM
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I was expecting more of, ''the victims should have carried guns with them too''
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Feline_Heart
07/18/17 10:01:57 AM
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I don't support lax gun laws, but I don't think we should try to ban guns. Someone in my family did die because they were shot and that hasn't changed my opinion
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booboy
07/18/17 10:05:16 AM
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I personally support my friends and loved ones receiving a firearm and thorough training in all aspects of owning that firearm.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/18/17 10:05:38 AM
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Why should laws be based on my opinions at my most emotional and bias? :\
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0TiamaT0
07/18/17 10:06:10 AM
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The problem is that there are so many mentally I'll people running around these days. These types of things didn't used to happen, because those people were put away where they belong.

Not only do you have all the crazies that were released from the nut houses, you have new ones that weren't put in to begin with, as well...
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QassTank
07/18/17 10:06:17 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
The issue is mental health, not the firearm.

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LinksLiege
07/18/17 10:07:43 AM
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TC's hypothetical assumes "gun rights supporter" means "guns for anyone regardless of mental problems," which is a load of shit.
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Tropicalwood
07/18/17 10:09:36 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why should laws be based on my opinions at my most emotional and bias? :\

But the courts do it all the time
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Wutobliteration
07/18/17 10:25:35 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
The issue is mental health, not the firearm.


lol. That didn't take long.
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Transcendentia
07/18/17 10:40:10 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why should laws be based on my opinions at my most emotional and bias? :\
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Rexdragon125
07/18/17 10:43:55 AM
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How would you feel about shitposting if someone you loved died in a shitposting accident
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TheRealDill2000
07/18/17 12:55:07 PM
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QassTank posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
The issue is mental health, not the firearm.

Lol.
Guns make it too easy to kill people.
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On_The_Edge
07/18/17 12:56:17 PM
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Uh I would be fucking sad but good thing feelings don't dictate policy.

Also as we all know, making something illegal makes it impossible to get, right? That's why there are no prostitutes or drug dealers :')
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chill02
07/18/17 1:51:15 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why should laws be based on my opinions at my most emotional and bias? :\

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Medz2017
07/18/17 1:55:38 PM
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Same could be asked about vehicles to people who lost loved ones in a car wreck.
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Polycosm
07/18/17 2:01:53 PM
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I lost a high school friend to a drunk driver, but I blame neither the vehicle nor the alcohol.
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Verdekal
07/18/17 2:02:54 PM
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That hasn't happened so I can't say.
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Wutobliteration
07/19/17 2:06:02 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
QassTank posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
The issue is mental health, not the firearm.

Lol.
Guns make it too easy to kill people.


You could say that about many things. It's pretty easy to just run people over with your vehicle.

The ISSUE is mental health, not the tool.


In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

Guns are banned in every other country for a reason. You have no other uses for a gun than to kill.
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Darmik
07/19/17 2:10:49 AM
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0TiamaT0 posted...
The problem is that there are so many mentally I'll people running around these days. These types of things didn't used to happen, because those people were put away where they belong.

Not only do you have all the crazies that were released from the nut houses, you have new ones that weren't put in to begin with, as well...


I don't think lobotomizing people was a better solution. Besides you had guys like that clock tower sniper back in the day too.

I think it's more common now because of the notoriety you get in the media. I'm guessing there are more guns in the US now compared to back then too so that's also a factor.
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chill02
07/19/17 2:15:34 AM
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Wutobliteration posted...
Guns are banned in every other country for a reason.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland
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Mal_Fet
07/19/17 2:16:31 AM
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I've had friends who died in a car accident.

I don't want to ban cars.
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Sativa_Rose
07/19/17 2:41:01 AM
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Mal_Fet
07/19/17 3:07:55 AM
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@Wutobliteration posted...
In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.
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Looked gf
07/19/17 3:11:02 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Toll Tropic

Gotta pay the toll!
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Darmik
07/19/17 3:13:53 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
@Wutobliteration posted...
In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


As a result of this many cities around the world have implemented road blocks and barriers during major celebrations to prevent it from happening again.
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HogRiderreturns
07/19/17 3:16:26 AM
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Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
@Wutobliteration posted...
In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


As a result of this many cities around the world have implemented road blocks and barriers during major celebrations to prevent it from happening again.

Even on a normal busy day they could do some serious damage.
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Mal_Fet
07/19/17 3:18:04 AM
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Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
@Wutobliteration posted...
In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


As a result of this many cities around the world have implemented road blocks and barriers during major celebrations to prevent it from happening again.

So they took realistic preventative measures rather than restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens?

What a novel idea! Still won't protect people crossing the street.
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Darmik
07/19/17 3:20:48 AM
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HogRiderreturns posted...
Even on a normal busy day they could do some serious damage.


Sure. But i think you'll find most places at risk of this will be raising poles and barriers if it's a high risk. It's not like people shrugged their shoulders and went "oh well I guess we can't do nothing about getting run down by trucks"

Mal_Fet posted...
So they took realistic preventative measures rather than restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens?

What a novel idea


Nobody in America can agree what a realistic preventative measure is though.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/19/17 3:22:44 AM
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This has happened to me before. I still am very pro gun and own several myself.

Thanks for being a dbag to push your agenda.
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Mal_Fet
07/19/17 3:26:18 AM
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Darmik posted...
Nobody in America can agree what a realistic preventative measure is though.

Well here's a hint: making it harder to get a gun through legal channels doesn't stop people from getting guns through illegal channels.

Stop and frisk was a really effective policy in NYC for getting guns off the street, but since most stops were minorities because minority areas have higher crime rates on average, we couldn't have that.
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Wutobliteration
07/19/17 4:42:03 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
@Wutobliteration posted...
In other news....a guy tried to go on a killing spree at a school in China...with a knife...he only managed to injure a few people.

In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


a truck is needed for transportation of goods and people. Tell me what is a gun needed for than to kill people? Self-defense? Yep, just killing people.
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iron jojo
07/19/17 5:48:35 AM
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I feel that despite any tragedy that my loved ones may have suffered, we should continue to allow guns to have rights.
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darkjedilink
07/19/17 8:34:21 AM
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Wutobliteration posted...
if one or more of your loved ones was one day involved and killed in a shooting massacre? The shooting massacre was caused by a mentally disturbed killer who just bought a rifle at a nearby store. Would you still be in support of such lax gun laws? Especially when such an event could have easily been prevented if the killer did not have such easy access to guns?

Yes, I would. Just because my family was hurt doesn't mean I should support trampling individual rights.

More people would be saved every year if we had less lax driving laws.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/19/17 9:19:39 AM
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Wutobliteration posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


a truck is needed for transportation of goods and people. Tell me what is a gun needed for than to kill people? Self-defense? Yep, just killing people.


In other words, you don't actually care that the instrument of mass death was a vehicle. Nope, gotta get dem guns.
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DevsBro
07/19/17 9:21:17 AM
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Mandasnake
07/19/17 9:21:30 AM
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chill02 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why should laws be based on my opinions at my most emotional and bias? :\

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Wutobliteration
07/19/17 10:46:13 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Wutobliteration posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


a truck is needed for transportation of goods and people. Tell me what is a gun needed for than to kill people? Self-defense? Yep, just killing people.


In other words, you don't actually care that the instrument of mass death was a vehicle. Nope, gotta get dem guns.


and what do you suggest? Banning all vehiclces on the road? Does that sound sensible?

Now turn the question around for guns. Banning all guns from civilians? Does that sound sensible? Yes, yes, it does.
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wvnative03
07/19/17 10:53:28 AM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Uh I would be fucking sad but good thing feelings don't dictate policy.

Also as we all know, making something illegal makes it impossible to get, right? That's why there are no prostitutes or drug dealers :')


This right here. The idea that banning guns would solve the problem is idiotic at best. Especially when you consider how many guns lie on American Soil. Even if gun nuts like me didn't exist it's still a stupid ass idea.

With multiple people in any given area carrying a gun, you have a small chance of someone shooting and killing the crazy person trying to mow entire crowds down. Thus saving hopefully at least, a few lives.
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weapon_d00d816
07/19/17 10:56:31 AM
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I wouldn't, in the same way I wouldn't dwell on the whole "they never would have died if they didn't drive that day!" logic if my parents died in a car accident. Obsessing over "what ifs" is not healthy.
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weapon_d00d816
07/19/17 10:57:28 AM
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Wutobliteration posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Wutobliteration posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


a truck is needed for transportation of goods and people. Tell me what is a gun needed for than to kill people? Self-defense? Yep, just killing people.


In other words, you don't actually care that the instrument of mass death was a vehicle. Nope, gotta get dem guns.


and what do you suggest? Banning all vehiclces on the road? Does that sound sensible?

Now turn the question around for guns. Banning all guns from civilians? Does that sound sensible? Yes, yes, it does.

Why does that sound sensible to you?
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D-Lo_BrownTown
07/19/17 10:57:45 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
I wouldn't, in the same way I wouldn't dwell on the whole "they never would have died if they didn't drive that day!" logic if my parents died in a car accident. Obsessing over "what ifs" is not healthy.


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Swagnificent119
07/19/17 10:58:47 AM
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lol imagine being this scared of some metal parts and gunpowder.
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Wutobliteration
07/19/17 11:09:02 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Wutobliteration posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Wutobliteration posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
In other news, a muslim extremist got in a truck and killed more people with it than are killed in the average mass shooting.


a truck is needed for transportation of goods and people. Tell me what is a gun needed for than to kill people? Self-defense? Yep, just killing people.


In other words, you don't actually care that the instrument of mass death was a vehicle. Nope, gotta get dem guns.


and what do you suggest? Banning all vehiclces on the road? Does that sound sensible?

Now turn the question around for guns. Banning all guns from civilians? Does that sound sensible? Yes, yes, it does.

Why does that sound sensible to you?


Oh, I don't know. Maybe because USA is one of, if not, the only developed country in the world where you can literally just buy a gun off the streets? If that sounds sensible to an American, it is indeed sensible, only to the country that elected Trump into office.
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