Current Events > Which Early Generation Yu-Gi-Oh cards was the most Bullshit?

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Monster Reborn - Free monster revival

Rageki - Free Monster wipe on opponents side

Man Eater Bug - Free monster kill on flip

Pot of Greed - Free 2 cards

Spell binding circle - unlimited immobilization on monster, atk reduction (?)

Mirror Force - Attack countered? All attack monster on your side is dead

Swords of revealing light - free opponent immobilization for 3 turns

Summoned Skull - High atk for 1 tribute, as strong/stronger than some lv7+

Out of Order

Exodia X3 - auto win chances are tripled

what the hell is out of order

p sure triple exodia was always banned/

Almost forgot how OP Summoned Skull was.

anyone who doesnt vote for pot of greed has zero idea how card advantage works
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JumpstyIe posted...

anyone who doesnt vote for pot of greed has zero idea how card advantage works

what does pot of greed do again?

Pot of greed. You gotta work for that draw, not just get 2 free ones lul
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Pot of Greed is the strongest and most versatile card ever printed. I'm not shitposting for the meme, even Infernity would run 3 Pot of Greed if it could.

But I can't believe you didn't list Harpies Feather Duster or Cold Wave

Spellbinding Circle doesn't belong on the list tbh, it was OK at some time I'm sure but nothing like anything else mentioned
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PowerOats posted...

Monster Reborn - Free monster revival

Rageki - Free Monster wipe on opponents side

Man Eater Bug - Free monster kill on flip

Mirror Force - Attack countered? All attack monster on your side is dead

Swords of revealing light - free opponent immobilization for 3 turns

Summoned Skull - High atk for 1 tribute, as strong/stronger than some lv7+

Had all these in my deck.


Also cards that are now banned that I had in my deck:

Witch of the Black Forest
Yata Garasu
The Forceful Sentry
Harpies Feather Duster
Graceful Charity
Change of Heart
Giant Trunade
Heavy Storm
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boi you didn't have Pot of Greed? I had 2
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could you ever even have 3 copies of all the pieces of Exodia? I thought they were always restricted to 1
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Definitely Raigeki.

Literally just wipe out your opponent's entire monster field. No extra prerequisites or any other bullshit. Just play a single card and they're all gone.

It was "balanced" by rarity, which doesn't mean shit when you can just outright buy the card.
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averagejoel posted...

could you ever even have 3 copies of all the pieces of Exodia? I thought they were always restricted to 1

There was a time where there was no banlist. For a long time actually. AFAIK Yugioh is decently unique with its extended and almost monthly banlist.

It only happened because of Chaos Emperor Dragon -> Witch of the Black Forest -> Yata-Garasu

Chaos: a whole archetype banned for being too bullshit



Cyber Dragons and the resulting power creep killed Yugioh
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Paper_Okami posted...

Graceful Charity

This card is almost as insane as Pot of Greed, especially nowadays, since it lets you dump 2 into GY in addition to its Upstart Goblin third card
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Doe posted...

averagejoel posted...

could you ever even have 3 copies of all the pieces of Exodia? I thought they were always restricted to 1

There was a time where there was no banlist. For a long time actually. AFAIK Yugioh is decently unique with its extended and almost monthly banlist.

It only happened because of Chaos Emperor Dragon -> Witch of the Black Forest -> Yata-Garasu

Chaos: a whole archetype banned for being too bullshit



Cyber Dragons and the resulting power creep killed Yugioh

Well the first ban list was September of 2003 and we got the orginal Yugioh Starter Deck in 2004. So outside of Japan, Exodia has always been limited.
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Chaos Emperor Dragon was the most fuckin beautiful card to me at the time
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Summoned skull wasn't even that OP. There were similar atk single-tribute cards like cyber tech alligator and Frostosaurus (which is even stronger) around after not too long, from memory.

Pot of Greed gets my vote. Raigeki was pretty broken too, as well as exodia decks with no banlist.
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Pot of Greed > Harpie's Feather Duster > Raigeki

Tmaster148 posted...

Well the first ban list was September of 2003 and we got the orginal Yugioh Starter Deck in 2004. So outside of Japan, Exodia has always been limited.

Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon hit NA in 2002

Boi
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Kinda surprised nobody voted Monster Reborn. Whenever it's not banned, it's usually that clutch card that solves everything
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Pot of Greed is notable because it seems benign at first glance. A draw two effect doesn't seem as strong as preventing all attacks for three turns or wiping all of your opponents monsters.

But the fact is that card advantage (having more cards in your hand) is a huge part of card games and getting it for free is a major power swing when you draw it.

I mean the Gwent game is designed entirely around the concept of keeping card advantage vs putting more power out.
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Doe posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Well the first ban list was September of 2003 and we got the orginal Yugioh Starter Deck in 2004. So outside of Japan, Exodia has always been limited.

Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon hit NA in 2002

Boi

Huh I was looking at the wiki for list dates, but there's multiple English tabs and I checked the wrong one. English -Worldwide != English - NA.
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legendarylemur posted...

Kinda surprised nobody voted Monster Reborn. Whenever it's not banned, it's usually that clutch card that solves everything

I would certainly say it's stronger than Raigeki, especially considering all the protection in the modern game. Back then, it was good sure, but not massively better than Mirror Force, and if someone was shitposting 4+ monsters against you, you're probably gonna lose anyway. Meanwhile Monster Reborn means whatever your biggest play was Or the beater you Graceful Charity'd comes back at no cost
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Pot of Greed is ridiculous because it's just free deck thinning at the cost of adding 2 probably just as useful cards into your hand. Imagine 3 Pot of Greed though, and it becomes a game of who drew more Pot of Greeds. If a PoG draws PoG, then you get 4 cards and thinned 6 cards from your deck. And it's free +1 and more
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Tough call between Monster Reborn, Raigeki or Pot of Greed... maybe Monster Reborn, since it allowed you to steal your opponent's monsters as well.
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Doe posted...

legendarylemur posted...

Kinda surprised nobody voted Monster Reborn. Whenever it's not banned, it's usually that clutch card that solves everything

I would certainly say it's stronger than Raigeki, especially considering all the protection in the modern game. Back then, it was good sure, but not massively better than Mirror Force, and if someone was shitposting 4+ monsters against you, you're probably gonna lose anyway. Meanwhile Monster Reborn means whatever your biggest play was Or the beater you Graceful Charity'd comes back at no cost

Oh yeah Graceful Charity. In many cases it was an even bigger plus than PoG. I'm surprised it wasn't on the voting list
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Bump

Pot of greed is the most versatile and easy to use card in the game. A free +1 is stupidly powerful. Literally the the only time it's bad is if you're about to deck out.

bump
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Dark Hole, tbh, if I can't have the most powerful monster on the board then fuck you none of us can have any monsters
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PowerOats posted...

Pot of Greed - Free 2 cards

it does what now?
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Delirious_Beard posted...

PowerOats posted...

Pot of Greed - Free 2 cards

it does what now?

Literally draw 2 cards, nothing more. Simple but deadly.

I played casually and mirror force was super bs, if you knew your opponent had it you were basically forced to have an answer for it at all times, and you could easily lose the game on it if you couldn't counter it
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Paper_Okami posted...

PowerOats posted...

Monster Reborn - Free monster revival

Rageki - Free Monster wipe on opponents side

Man Eater Bug - Free monster kill on flip

Mirror Force - Attack countered? All attack monster on your side is dead

Swords of revealing light - free opponent immobilization for 3 turns

Summoned Skull - High atk for 1 tribute, as strong/stronger than some lv7+

Had all these in my deck.


Also cards that are now banned that I had in my deck:

Witch of the Black Forest
Yata Garasu
The Forceful Sentry
Harpies Feather Duster
Graceful Charity
Change of Heart
Giant Trunade
Heavy Storm

Holy shit. WotBF is banned now? What about Sangan?

And my vote goes to Rangeki. Because fuck that card showing up at the worst times. I ran Anti Rangeki just to piss off people trying to kill all of my monsters.
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Denzien_of_Sega posted...

Holy shit. WotBF is banned now? What about Sangan?

Sangan got off the banlist recently, but he was also errated. It goes something like "you can't use the card you get from this effect until the next turn"

Witch of the Black Forest was even stronger and went on the banlist way earlier due to more good cards having bad DEF than ATK

Nowadays they're kinda slow
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The_Juice_ posted...

Literally draw 2 cards, nothing more. Simple but deadly.

i don't follow
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Delirious_Beard posted...

The_Juice_ posted...

Literally draw 2 cards, nothing more. Simple but deadly.

i don't follow

Yeah, I'm gonna need more details.
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Doe posted...

Denzien_of_Sega posted...

Holy shit. WotBF is banned now? What about Sangan?

Sangan got off the banlist recently, but he was also errated. It goes something like "you can't use the card you get from this effect until the next turn"

Witch of the Black Forest was even stronger and went on the banlist way earlier due to more good cards having bad DEF than ATK

Nowadays they're kinda slow

Seems fair. If you ran both of those cards you could draw your much needed clutch monsters in a few turns. I used them to pull Cyber Jar and Spear Cretan for an absolutely disgusting combination.
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Denzien_of_Sega posted...

Cyber Jar

Now this guy here is SUPER banned by the way, he's never coming off
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Doe posted...

Denzien_of_Sega posted...

Cyber Jar

Now this guy here is SUPER banned by the way, he's never coming off

LMAO I bet.
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This topic reminds me of the fact that I was a giant shithead when it came to playground Yu-Gi-Oh duels.

So many duplicates of mentioned cards. Three Pots of Greed and to be even more annoying I had three Jar of Greeds as well. Monster reborn was also one of my staples.

Eventually played in an anything goes local tournament and got my shit pushed in. Built an actual deck afterwards although when shit got complicated as hell I dropped out.
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pot of greed
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what does pot of greed do?
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Bluebomber182 posted...

what does pot of greed do?

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Cyber Jar, followed by Fiber Jar
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electricbugs2 posted...

Bluebomber182 posted...

what does pot of greed do?

You've lost me.
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Spidey5 posted...

You've lost me.

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ok but what does it do?
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Spidey5 posted...

Delirious_Beard posted...

The_Juice_ posted...

Literally draw 2 cards, nothing more. Simple but deadly.

i don't follow

Yeah, I'm gonna need more details.

That's all it does. It's spell a card that lets you draw 2 cards. No downsides and nets you +1 cards which helps give you card advantage. And if you ever played any TCG you should know how important having more cards than your opponent is. Also it thins you deck which helps you draw cards you need later on.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Well the first ban list was September of 2003 and we got the orginal Yugioh Starter Deck in 2004. So outside of Japan, Exodia has always been limited.

What was the original starter deck? I remember getting the Kaiba starter deck in like 2002
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Well the first ban list was September of 2003 and we got the orginal Yugioh Starter Deck in 2004. So outside of Japan, Exodia has always been limited.

What was the original starter deck? I remember getting the Kaiba starter deck in like 2002

I made a post earlier explaining my mistake, I looked at the wrong dates because Worldwide release is not equal to NA release.

I'm pretty sure Kaiba and Yugi were the first starter decks followed by Pegasus later.
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People be asking what Pot of Greed does when it was banned almost since the beginning of time....damn I feel old.

I kinda voted Mirror Force being bullshit because that's a shitty trap card that pretty much rekts your entire offensive and plays mind tricks on you. Raigeki was pretty much banned too since I wouldn't think I'll be encountering it anytime soon back then.
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