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gmanthebest 05/25/17 7:23:05 PM #152: |
thronedfire2 posted...
The saddest part is all these people who don't seem to realize you can only use one skin at a time. Everyone bitched about not getting the Witch Mercy skin and then the next one came out and no one gives a shit about the witch skin anymore. I use the devil skin and I basically never see anyone using that or her other original ones. The amber one is better than some legendaries too I just want to say, "My minions never die!" --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/25/17 7:26:35 PM #153: |
Don't like it? Don't buy it.
What kind of idiot tries to get every item in every Overwatch event? There is no secret that loot boxes are random and that not even a ludicrous amount of money would likely even get you EVERY item. I don't get why people think they should be entitled to every little thing that comes out for a game post-launch just because they bought it. And I yes, I am fully aware that I just typed that sentence. Just buy what you like and not what you don't. You like everything? Then bankrupt yourself like an fool over video game cosmetics. Or grow a backbone and control your goddamn purchasing habits. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/25/17 7:34:44 PM #154: |
The thing is this is the model that keeps gamers playing as well as spending money.
1. Paid content such as levels and characters is the most traditional but it's a one off and it fragments the community. 2. People want to be rewarded for playing with unique stuff but they also don't want the game to be unfair when starting out. Simply buying a skin isn't a reward for playing. Lootboxes give that feeling of getting a reward because it can be earned by simply playing the game. The more stuff to collect the more unique your character is. You aren't intended to have access to all of it. What you have is meant to be unique to you So this model benefits the playerbase as a whole (if you don't want to spend money you aren't locked away from anyone else) and it still means the developers get money for adding new content and supporting the game. If you don't like this model you're gonna have a tough time playing multiplayer FPS games in the future. These games as a service models are sticking around. You can make an argument that it appeals too much to gambling habits but it's addicting to players for a reason. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 05/25/17 7:36:43 PM #155: |
the worst part of the skins is that it's an FPS...
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ZombiePuffin 05/25/17 7:57:29 PM #156: |
Darmik posted...
ZombiePuffin posted...ClunkerSlim posted.... You mean the breadcrumbs dropped from their golden towers? Yeah, I'm sure the meager pay they get is worth them being forced to butcher their projects by publishers to shoehorn in free2play mechanics and cash shops --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/25/17 7:59:02 PM #157: |
Yeah totally Blizzard is struggling these days.
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thompsontalker7 05/25/17 8:00:23 PM #158: |
randy_123r posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...Who says it doesn't? Overwatch loot boxes are literally gambling and I kinda hate that I sunk $70 into them because I'm a sucker for those skins my justification is that they don't lock new heroes or other things behind it (fucking Black Ops 3) --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePuffin 05/25/17 8:07:32 PM #159: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Don't like it? Don't buy it. How about don't shoehorn in microtransactions in games people paid full price for hockeybub89 posted... What kind of idiot tries to get every item in every Overwatch event? Why are there events? Why wouldn't you just release them for sale as DLC instead of putting them in lootboxes? Oh wait, Blizzard are greedy and would rather you buy 50 bucks worth of lootboxes and STILL not get the skin you want then you just paying 5 bucks for the skin itself. hockeybub89 posted... There is no secret that loot boxes are random and that not even a ludicrous amount of money would likely even get you EVERY item. Why shouldn't I be able to unlock everything in a game I paid full price upfront for? hockeybub89 posted... Or grow a backbone and control your goddamn purchasing habits. How about YOU grow a backbone and don't be a fucking sniveling spineless worm of a consumer that publishers LOVE. For being as liberal as you are you sure have no problem bending over for corporations --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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matrix007 05/25/17 8:23:12 PM #160: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
How about don't shoehorn in microtransactions in games people paid full price for ZombiePuffin posted... Why wouldn't you just release them for sale as DLC https://i.imgflip.com/zr27a.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePuffin 05/25/17 8:33:28 PM #161: |
Darmik posted...
The thing is this is the model that keeps gamers playing as well as spending money. That is literally only good if you're an executive at a gaming publisher, the unchecked avarice of publishers is not good to consumers in anyway. Darmik posted... 2. People want to be rewarded for playing with unique stuff but they also don't want the game to be unfair when starting out. Simply buying a skin isn't a reward for playing. What in the literal fuck is wrong with you? Publishers let alone fucking Blizzard are not rewarding you by making cool and attractive skins and locking them behind randomized paywall unless you feel like grinding endlessly for a free spin on the slot machine. Darmik posted... Lootboxes give that feeling of getting a reward because it can be earned by simply playing the game. Grinding endlessly to eventually get enough of whatever currency the game offers is not giving a feeling of reward Darmik posted... The more stuff to collect the more unique your character is. You aren't intended to have access to all of it. What you have is meant to be unique to you Stockholm syndrome: The post If I paid money for the game, I am entitled to everything on the disc. It is not free to play so it shouldn't be like a free to play game. Darmik posted... So this model benefits the playerbase as a whole (if you don't want to spend money you aren't locked away from anyone else) and it still means the developers get money for adding new content and supporting the game. As I've told you before, no. This literally only benefits publishers. Forcing players to grind endless or pay for randomized gambling boxes for the off chance you might get the skin you want is not doing consumers any favors --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePuffin 05/25/17 8:34:36 PM #162: |
matrix007 posted...
ZombiePuffin posted...How about don't shoehorn in microtransactions in games people paid full price for What's so hard to comprehend? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/25/17 8:36:52 PM #163: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
What in the literal f*** is wrong with you? Publishers let alone f***ing Blizzard are not rewarding you by making cool and attractive skins and locking them behind randomized paywall unless you feel like grinding endlessly for a free spin on the slot machine. I don't care about skins so I'm not talking about me. And yeah people feel rewarded by this. It's the same logic with trading cards. ZombiePuffin posted... Grinding endlessly to eventually get enough of whatever currency the game offers is not giving a feeling of reward Don't you just get the currency by playing the game? If you consider it a grind to just play the game so you can get a skin your priorities are warped. ZombiePuffin posted... If I paid money for the game, I am entitled to everything on the disc. It is not free to play so it should be like a free to play game. As far as I know all the skins are in updates and aren't on the disc. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 05/25/17 9:18:08 PM #164: |
Endlessly grinding for loot or coins? Lmao. Between arcade(a loot box every 3 wins) mode and winning matches to build exp (Overwatch has a shit ton of match bonuses to speed up the effort), the grind in Overwatch is totally reasonable. Again, ask anyone who has played a significant amount what they've unlocked without paying for post launch content and you'll see it's miles ahead of something like a street fighter
It's sucky that the timed skins may be a little tough to get(I got the lucio and dva ones in 2 out of the first 5 loot boxes), but gold skins, emotes and highlight intros are reasonably priced to the point where you don't have to spend real money to get what you want --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/26/17 6:58:43 AM #165: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
How about YOU grow a backbone and don't be a fucking sniveling spineless worm of a consumer that publishers LOVE. For being as liberal as you are you sure have no problem bending over for corporations I have bought no more than 10 loot boxes in a single event and have gotten almost every skin/other yellow/purple item from every event. I'm sorry I am not a pathetic little nerd and just have fun playing games and spend my money how I want to. The seasonal events keep bringing me back to the game and I like opening loot boxes, not knowing what is inside. Then, at the end of every event, I use my accumulated in-game currency to get some things I missed. How mad does this make you? I love how I'm supposedly a shill to corporations. Just all of them. Because I occasionally buy loot boxes in one game and think people should be free to spend their money on games when and how they want. I also love how you think selling everything as typical DLC would somehow be better, despite likely costing dedicated gamers far more, if they aren't chased away completely. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 05/26/17 8:02:56 AM #167: |
I, for one, appreciate ZombiePelican coming in to show TC how to take trolling to the next level.
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ZombiePuffin 05/26/17 8:08:26 AM #168: |
pegusus123456 posted...
I, for one, appreciate ZombiePelican coming in to show TC how to take trolling to the next level. I'm the one standing up against the avarice of publishers and I'm called a troll. You people have fucking Stockholm syndrome I swear How can you defend anticonserumerist, avaricious, and insidious actions by publishers like shoving microtransactions in a game you paid a minimum of 60 bucks or more for? And don't you fucking DARE defend them by saying they're "optional" like that somehow makes them OK --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 05/26/17 8:16:02 AM #169: |
4 pages in so I'm sure it's been said, but DLC =/= microtransactions.
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gmanthebest 05/26/17 8:17:44 AM #170: |
Please don't feed the Pelicans
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ZombiePuffin 05/26/17 8:32:27 AM #171: |
gmanthebest posted...
Please don't feed the Pelicans $0.50 has been deposited into your account from ActivisionBlizzard, Inc. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 05/26/17 9:15:41 AM #172: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
gmanthebest posted...Please don't feed the Pelicans It's cute how you can't argue anything and just call people who disagree with you paid shills. Reminds me of a 5 year old arguing. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 05/26/17 11:51:51 AM #173: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
If I hear someone post they're cosmetic to one more time to justify this anticosumerist bullshit, I'm going to go fucking crazy. this implies that playing video games is like being kidnapped I dont take games that seriously and dont spend money on OW and Im glad they kept the price to $40 by making money through microtransactions so people who want to pay for that can and they dont need to shift costs to me --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 05/26/17 11:53:45 AM #174: |
ZombiePuffin posted...
How about don't shoehorn in microtransactions in games people paid full price for OW is only 40 dollars thats less than my N64 games cost in nominal terms like 15 years ago --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SideshowBob311 05/26/17 12:04:07 PM #175: |
Any team that doesn't lock game content (modes, characters) or game altering items (weapons, powers) behind DLC is doing it right. If some people want to be stupid and drop hundreds of dollars chasing a certain color hat for a character, that's their problem.
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ModLogic 05/26/17 5:57:52 PM #176: |
it becomes everyones problem cos its those fools that enable devs to cut more and more content from the base game
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