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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:06:03 PM
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Only other JRPG they've played is Fire Emblem so people don't understand the appeal behind it

Shit, I was playing Disgaea long before I played Awakening

BTW 5 is really nice on the Switch, glad I don't have to decide between the portable or console version
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green butter
05/17/17 3:06:55 PM
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Lmao@ Nintendo Switch owners

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FighterStreet
05/17/17 3:07:29 PM
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disagae is vastly superior to fire emblem, as is tactics ogre or FFT or xcom or really any other modern TRPG

Fire depth goes about far as aggro ranges and placing your tankiest unit at the tip of them and watching the enemy kill themselves
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Mernardi
05/17/17 3:09:54 PM
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green butter posted...
Lmao@ Nintendo Switch owners

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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:10:46 PM
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green butter posted...
Lmao@ Nintendo Switch owners


If I sold one before I bought it do I still count? hmm
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legendarylemur
05/17/17 3:11:05 PM
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Lol... in Awakening maybe. Not even the Fire Emblem fans think Awakening had good map design and enemy placement, though there were a few good ones in the earlier chapters.

Fates had more rushes that required different strat than aggro, and in Lunatic, there are enough poison strikes in enemies that you will never have a unit tanky enough to survive more than 4 people.

And... Disgaea is not exactly all that deep either... If you didn't grind enough, sometimes there's just no way to beat certain content. You never get that in FEs, not even Awakening pre-Lunatic+
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:11:42 PM
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FighterStreet posted...
disagae is vastly superior to fire emblem, as is tactics ogre or FFT or xcom or really any other modern TRPG

Fire depth goes about far as aggro ranges and placing your tankiest unit at the tip of them and watching the enemy kill themselves


Seriously. Throwing, geo spots, and a whole bunch of other mechanics give it quite a bit of depth

I also like the fanservice for older games and how it doesn't take itself too seriously overall
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creativerealms
05/17/17 3:13:36 PM
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When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?
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alphagamble
05/17/17 3:14:21 PM
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Disgaea 3 was a funny game

Trophies were hard as fuck though
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:15:00 PM
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alphagamble posted...
Disgaea 3 was a funny game

Trophies were hard as fuck though


That's the only one I couldn't beat, just felt kinda boring

Luckily 4 came along and that's my favorite
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LightHawKnight
05/17/17 3:15:11 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Lol... in Awakening maybe. Not even the Fire Emblem fans think Awakening had good map design and enemy placement, though there were a few good ones in the earlier chapters.

Fates had more rushes that required different strat than aggro, and in Lunatic, there are enough poison strikes in enemies that you will never have a unit tanky enough to survive more than 4 people.

And... Disgaea is not exactly all that deep either... If you didn't grind enough, sometimes there's just no way to beat certain content. You never get that in FEs, not even Awakening pre-Lunatic+


Ah, the postgame super grinds in Disgaea....
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FighterStreet
05/17/17 3:16:27 PM
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creativerealms posted...
When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?

srpg=simulation rpg
they are interchangeable,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game
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Esrac
05/17/17 3:16:39 PM
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creativerealms posted...
When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?


I was wondering that. I've always known them as SRPGs for Strategy Role Playing Games.
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Sami1000
05/17/17 3:18:34 PM
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Some people who haven't ever played Disgaea might no understand the appeal, they are very different from other rpg games. Still, i don't understand why someone would buy it without reading or watching a review for it first, because anyone expecting an actual turnbased strategy like Tactics ogre or Fire emblem would be seriously disappointed. Disgaea games aren't about good strategy, its about becoming Super saiyan level crazy poweful.
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darkphoenix181
05/17/17 3:18:48 PM
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@thompsontalker7 posted...
Only other JRPG they've played is Fire Emblem so people don't understand the appeal behind it

s***, I was playing Disgaea long before I played Awakening


disgaea was on the ds genius
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LightHawKnight
05/17/17 3:20:15 PM
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FighterStreet posted...
creativerealms posted...
When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?

srpg=simulation rpg
they are interchangeable,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game


What even is a simulation rpg?
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:20:42 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
@thompsontalker7 posted...
Only other JRPG they've played is Fire Emblem so people don't understand the appeal behind it

s***, I was playing Disgaea long before I played Awakening


disgaea was on the ds genius


Okay, what's your point

It was considered the last possible way to play Disgaea
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darkphoenix181
05/17/17 3:24:58 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
@thompsontalker7 posted...
Only other JRPG they've played is Fire Emblem so people don't understand the appeal behind it

s***, I was playing Disgaea long before I played Awakening


disgaea was on the ds genius


Okay, what's your point

It was considered the last possible way to play Disgaea


it shows you are extremely biased and unable to understand the other side

you generalize them as not only not having played Disgaea, but no other jrpg

and why? because you are anti-nintendo or a sony fan?

and yet many of them had owned a ds and played disaea long before you knew about it probably considering awakening came waaaaaaaayy after the ds
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MrK3V
05/17/17 3:26:58 PM
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Why are people always so buttmad over ninty?
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:27:31 PM
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chill the fuck out bucko

You're implying that everyone with a DS played Disgaea when obviously that isn't the case

Even so that wouldn't necessarily be the same people who have a Switch and are looking at it in confusion now would it

plus only the first one was out on the DS, meanwhile with a Vita you can play the first 4 games in their enhanced forms
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LightHawKnight
05/17/17 3:29:48 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
chill the fuck out bucko

You're implying that everyone with a DS played Disgaea when obviously that isn't the case

Even so that wouldn't necessarily be the same people who have a Switch and are looking at it in confusion now would it

plus only the first one was out on the DS, meanwhile with a Vita you can play the first 4 games in their enhanced forms


And it looks like you are implying that people who own a switch have never owned any non nintendo console?
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:31:09 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
chill the fuck out bucko

You're implying that everyone with a DS played Disgaea when obviously that isn't the case

Even so that wouldn't necessarily be the same people who have a Switch and are looking at it in confusion now would it

plus only the first one was out on the DS, meanwhile with a Vita you can play the first 4 games in their enhanced forms


And it looks like you are implying that people who own a switch have never owned any non nintendo console?


considering their reaction to Disgaea, I'm sure there's a sizable portion
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Sami1000
05/17/17 3:31:21 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
@thompsontalker7 posted...
Only other JRPG they've played is Fire Emblem so people don't understand the appeal behind it

s***, I was playing Disgaea long before I played Awakening


disgaea was on the ds genius


Okay, what's your point

It was considered the last possible way to play Disgaea


it shows you are extremely biased and unable to understand the other side

you generalize them as not only not having played Disgaea, but no other jrpg

and why? because you are anti-nintendo or a sony fan?

and yet many of them had owned a ds and played disaea long before you knew about it probably considering awakening came waaaaaaaayy after the ds


Its easy to generalize when you get hordes of Nintendo fanboys on NS board. There are STILL people in denial about Wii u having weak specs, or NS being much weaker than Xbone. There are handful of people there who really knows their tech well, and people who probably thinks you can actually download more ram, lol.

You can't have an actual discussion about anything regarding to Nintendo with Nintendo fans.
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Tappor
05/17/17 3:33:32 PM
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nintendrones amirite
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:34:19 PM
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Tappor posted...
nintendrones amirite


yup

I own a Switch but I'm not about to act like it's any better than it actually is
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Tappor
05/17/17 3:36:22 PM
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i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch

it needs it tbh
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 3:37:25 PM
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Tappor posted...
i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch

it needs it tbh


People are treating it as some sort of imitation Fire Emblem and it triggers me so
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DoctorVader
05/17/17 3:39:44 PM
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I look at it negatively because D5 was pretty bad IMO because while there were great QOL changes, they went backwards in the IW and duping.

Also the Switch version seems too laggy in the pocket netherworld for my taste. Shit feels like it gets worse as you add more characters.
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Tappor
05/17/17 3:39:53 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
People are treating it as some sort of imitation Fire Emblem and it triggers me so

lol

from what i've seen a friend play of disgaea, the similarities stop at "there are units and you can make them move on a map"
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ManLink4321
05/17/17 3:41:09 PM
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lol @ nintendo
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Tappor
05/17/17 3:41:49 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
lol @ nintendo

looks at elephant in the room and ignores it
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darkphoenix181
05/17/17 3:43:12 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Tappor posted...
i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch

it needs it tbh


People are treating it as some sort of imitation Fire Emblem and it triggers me so


well seeing how fire emblem came out in 1990 in Japan and popularized the genre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fire_Emblem_video_games
Fire Emblem is a series of tactical role-playing video games developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Its first game released in Japan in 1990, and is credited with both originating and popularizing its genre.


They are actually correct and you have no basis to be triggered
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Second_Chances
05/17/17 3:45:11 PM
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Disgaea 2 was the only entry I enjoyed besides the writing in Disgaea 1, have not played D2 or 5 though
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 4:00:19 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Tappor posted...
i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch

it needs it tbh


People are treating it as some sort of imitation Fire Emblem and it triggers me so


well seeing how fire emblem came out in 1990 in Japan and popularized the genre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fire_Emblem_video_games
Fire Emblem is a series of tactical role-playing video games developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Its first game released in Japan in 1990, and is credited with both originating and popularizing its genre.


They are actually correct and you have no basis to be triggered


So by your logic only one real game exists per genre and everything else is an imitation, gotcha
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Bloodychess
05/17/17 4:02:21 PM
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I couldn't finish Disgaea 4, the grind was too real
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mcpwnia
05/17/17 4:02:23 PM
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You get so worked up over the smallest things. Step back, take a breather, and calm down
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Turbam
05/17/17 4:03:03 PM
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I still need to beat 4 and D2
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darkphoenix181
05/17/17 4:05:17 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Tappor posted...
i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch

it needs it tbh


People are treating it as some sort of imitation Fire Emblem and it triggers me so


well seeing how fire emblem came out in 1990 in Japan and popularized the genre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fire_Emblem_video_games
Fire Emblem is a series of tactical role-playing video games developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Its first game released in Japan in 1990, and is credited with both originating and popularizing its genre.


They are actually correct and you have no basis to be triggered


So by your logic only one real game exists per genre and everything else is an imitation, gotcha


you are taking the word imitation too personally

technically league of legends is an imitation and clone of DOTA

but that is only because DOTA carved out the genre of mobas itself

according to wiki, fire emblem essentially did that for strategy rpgs like disgaea

btw imitations can be better than the original if that is your issue

but give credit where it is due
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ShadowKirby17
05/17/17 4:05:46 PM
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Mernardi posted...
green butter posted...
Lmao@ Nintendo Switch owners

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MangaFan462
05/17/17 4:05:52 PM
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Its a bit inappropriate for Nintendo gamers who are very young.
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EbonTitanium
05/17/17 4:06:32 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
FighterStreet posted...
creativerealms posted...
When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?

srpg=simulation rpg
they are interchangeable,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game


What even is a simulation rpg?

I thought the S meant Strategy or Strategic.
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 4:06:35 PM
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mcpwnia posted...
You get so worked up over the smallest things. Step back, take a breather, and calm down


the limbs have never been more relaxed ever

meanwhile CE is shitposting hourly about Trump when ultimately their opinion won't change anything, go figure
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SF_Okami
05/17/17 4:07:35 PM
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I hate almost all JRPGs so....meh
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 4:08:24 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
I hate almost all JRPGs so....meh


This doesn't play much like a JRPG though if you're talking about general gameplay
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Turbam
05/17/17 4:08:38 PM
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Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively?
All I've seen in praise
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darkphoenix181
05/17/17 4:11:45 PM
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Turbam posted...
Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively?
All I've seen in praise


they aren't

they are just saying fire emblem started srpgs or was the big game that made it popular

and tc goes full on mad rage cause disgaea must be his favorite game or something because what they say is backed up factually by history and he wants disgaea to have started it all I guess
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 4:12:42 PM
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Turbam posted...
Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively?
All I've seen in praise


I enjoy hyperbole so my topic was referring to the boards here mostly

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75356519
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75355250
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75352529
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NinjaPirateDood
05/17/17 4:13:29 PM
#48:


EbonTitanium posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
FighterStreet posted...
creativerealms posted...
When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs?

srpg=simulation rpg
they are interchangeable,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game


What even is a simulation rpg?

I thought the S meant Strategy or Strategic.

it does. no idea what the fuck a "simulation rpg" is. The Sims?
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thompsontalker7
05/17/17 4:13:54 PM
#49:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Turbam posted...
Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively?
All I've seen in praise


they aren't

they are just saying fire emblem started srpgs or was the big game that made it popular

and tc goes full on mad rage cause disgaea must be his favorite game or something because what they say is backed up factually by history and he wants disgaea to have started it all I guess


I haven't touched Disgaea since 2012

I'm more hyped for Echoes this week actually

why are you trying to counter an argument that wasn't being made
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SF_Okami
05/17/17 4:16:40 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
SF_Okami posted...
I hate almost all JRPGs so....meh


This doesn't play much like a JRPG though if you're talking about general gameplay


It's not that. Just the setting of JRPGs usually are crap to me. I was at my university and a dude was playing disagea and I was watching. I was cringing so hard >.> Other JRPGs have the same effect. Just not for me.
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