Current Events > When they say 1 in 4 black people don't have a drivers license or ID

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tc, is it really that hard for you to get that on a large scale imposing these rules is going to negatively affect some groups more than others, and that's exactly why lawmakers try to get these laws passed?

a long time ago they tried to force people to take literacy tests before they could be registered to vote. these tests affected minorities far more than whites because education was inequal at that point. and people exactly like you said what's so hard about learning to read? just get a tutor. ask your teacher for help. ask your parents. if you can't read you're probably just lazy and making excuses. if you take something like an id which one group of people has easy access to but another group has a much more difficult time getting, that second group is going to be negatively affected. not as a whole, but definitely more often.

Doom_Art posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Canada's voter "ID" laws literally let you vote with your mail lol

Lol yep.

I have nothing against voter ID laws, you just have to make damn sure people have ID and access to polling stations if you're going to do that.

The issue with how the GOP does it is it's always done in such a way where it's meant to depress turnout of groups that vote against them.



Because as we know, when turnout is low, the GOP wins.

what is the purpose of voter ID laws if not to suppress voting?
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To keep Rodriguez from voting illegally.
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Link HT posted...

How the US functions without a mandatory and universal ID system is beyond me

a passport can be substituted for a Photo ID in all cases (unless you need a driver's license specifically for example a speeding ticket). You can also get them at the post office and not have to go to the DMV. Passports however aren't free. Maybe they should be.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

You need it to buy cigarettes and alcohol

Are you kidding me? Most places don't ID you for these.
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@istmirechtegal posted...

Don´t know about your car but mine drives with fuel, it never asked me for my drivers license

Damn can yall feel the cut from this edgy post?
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Iodine posted...

Link HT posted...
How the US functions without a mandatory and universal ID system is beyond me


Yeah but then illegal immigrants will be able to get them as well and thus it would be difficult to tell if someone is an illegal or not.

As opposed to nobody having an ID where it's easy to tell?

Physical IDs are also obviously registered in a database, it's not just a piece of plastic.
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Does that statistic include them not having either, or one or the other? I know tons of blacks who only have an ID and not a driver's license. Also, all these people pointing out "don't you need ID for this and that", please don't forget that ID's and the such expire.

I also love how easy it is to spot the people who have never at any point in their lives experienced what it's like to be so poor that they can't afford to get an ID. Must be nice.
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a ton of black folks (especially in big cities don't drive) and state ID becomes much less important if you don't either drive or vote regularly.
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Milkman5 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Milkman5 posted...

Take the bus?

You know many rural places don't have Mass Transit .

Where is this? Give me a real hypothetical. I'll look up how to get to the dmv

He is right on that. Rural areas tend to have virtually no public transportation. I live in a small, rural town in Louisiana. There is no public transportation in this town (homes on the outskirts of the town don't even have access to public plumbing or high-speed internet) and the nearest DMV is about 30 - 40 minutes away in another town.
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Vamp_Aubrey posted...

1. didn't need an ID to get a job

many places in the US, you do.

soooo...... i don't know whats the problem with black people and IDs. i don't think there is a problem. just a favorite line of the liberals to dote over their "poor, oppressed" voting block.
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Milkman5 posted...

so illegalize that. is it so hard to criminalize closing dmvs to suppress votes

Well, when the party in power wants to do exactly that, yes.
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Poor people are lazy.

News at 11.
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I'll be the bad guy here with the truth. If you don't have an ID it makes it nearly impossible for cops to identify you. Perfect if you have warrants and are out doing shady shit. I speak from experience.
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Voting is the most sacred and protected right in this country. If they want to require ID, they have to provide it free of charge
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This is legit racist black people know where the fuckin DMV is
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Lol @ people defending the not having an ID thing. It's nothing but pure simple laziness
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glitteringfairy posted...

Lol @ people defending the not having an ID thing. It's nothing but pure simple laziness

it's also a made up boogeyman that the right made up to intrude on folks rights
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Lazy people shouldn't be barred from voting.
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NikoIai posted...

Voting is the most sacred and protected right in this country. If they want to require ID, they have to provide it free of charge

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.
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Milkman5 posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

No one's saying it's impossible, but it discourages voting. Walking thirty miles, then standing in line for god-knows how long, then walking another thirty is a huge pain in the ass and you know it.

where is this place, just someone give me a latitude-longitude

Bend over and I'll show you.
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BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.
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Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

Took me 10 seconds to find.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page
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my city doesnt need ID to take public transportation unless you are getting the student fee (which is cheaper) and you look like an adult. they usually dont ask to see it anyways. ive only been asked once
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NikoIai posted...

Voting is the most sacred and protected right in this country. If they want to require ID, they have to provide it free of charge

Lmfao more hand outs for lazy people.

If youre too lazy to havee ID youre too lazy too vote
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Link HT posted...

How the US functions without a mandatory and universal ID system is beyond me

@Link_HT watch my video
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Some states don't take certain forms of ID for voter registration.

N1NJAREB0RN posted...

Milkman5 posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

No one's saying it's impossible, but it discourages voting. Walking thirty miles, then standing in line for god-knows how long, then walking another thirty is a huge pain in the ass and you know it.

where is this place, just someone give me a latitude-longitude

Bend over and I'll show you.

LMFAO

BarneyBosco posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

Took me 10 seconds to find.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I don't live in NYC
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Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

Took me 10 seconds to find.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I don't live in NYC

Lmfao oh no 15 bucks....sooo much money lmfao ahahahaha
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

Took me 10 seconds to find.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I don't live in NYC

Lmfao oh no 15 bucks....sooo much money lmfao ahahahaha

That is a lot of money to some people. That might be your grocery money for the week.

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

If you don't live in the state in which you were born and don't have easy access to your birth certificate then it's going to cost you even more time and money to obtain that.

The thing about these rules is that they aren't discriminatory on their face, they just have a discriminatory impact. Those are both bad according to the law.

My dad is white and doesn't vote but we had to mail in for his birth certificate and pay a fee and then wait a few months to get it. There was a delay because we sent in the payment, but before they had a chance to process it they increased the fee so they sent it back to us.
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_Rinku_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

Antifar posted...

BarneyBosco posted...

You can get a free state ID used for voting from the DMV. You have to pay for the drivers license.

This varies depending on the state. IIRC, my non-driving ID cost like $15 here in NY.

Took me 10 seconds to find.

http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I don't live in NYC

Lmfao oh no 15 bucks....sooo much money lmfao ahahahaha

That is a lot of money to some people. That might be your grocery money for the week.

It's literally a once every couple years kind of expense. It's not as big a deal as your making it.
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again, doesn't the premise that 15 bucks is too expensive fall apart once you realize you can't get welfare without it.


Who is too poor for 15 bucks, but not poor enough where they don't qualify to be helped by the government?

Milkman5 posted...

again, doesn't the premise that 15 bucks is too expensive fall apart once you realize you can't get welfare without it.


Who is too poor for 15 bucks, but not poor enough where they don't qualify to be helped by the government?

Not everyone who qualifies for welfare goes out and applies for it, as hard as that might be to believe. It's especially to get welfare (and an ID!) if you're indigent, too.

So there are actually plenty of people who don't get welfare but are too poor to afford an ID -- of course, lots of these people wouldn't vote anyway
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TC:

In North Carolina, the legislature requested racial data on the use of electoral mechanisms, then restricted all those disproportionately used by blacks, such as early voting, same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting. Absentee ballots, disproportionately used by white voters, were exempted from the voter ID requirement. The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”

The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports, and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs. The Texas voter ID law was designed the same way: There, officials accepted concealed-weapon licenses but not student or state employee IDs. The Texas legislature was repeatedly advised of the likely effect on minority voters but rebuffed nearly all amendments that would have eased its harsh impact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/?utm_term=.6940637a7a44

Now consider shutting up.
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the point is getting the ID would help poor people in the long run

That_Happened posted...

TC:

In North Carolina, the legislature requested racial data on the use of electoral mechanisms, then restricted all those disproportionately used by blacks, such as early voting, same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting. Absentee ballots, disproportionately used by white voters, were exempted from the voter ID requirement. The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”

The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports, and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs. The Texas voter ID law was designed the same way: There, officials accepted concealed-weapon licenses but not student or state employee IDs. The Texas legislature was repeatedly advised of the likely effect on minority voters but rebuffed nearly all amendments that would have eased its harsh impact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/?utm_term=.6940637a7a44

Now consider shutting up.

I've seen that

Milkman5 posted...

the point is getting the ID would help poor people in the long run

preventing people from drinking sugar-sweetened beverages would probably be the best thing we could do for our country's finances but we don't try to make that a qualification for voting
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Why don't poor people just tell their limo drivers to take them to the dmv?
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Guys we need to give more free shit to people because life is hard sometimes.
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Why don't poor people just tell their limo drivers to take them to the dmv?

omg
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