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AdmiralZephyr
07/02/12 7:35:00 PM
#1:


The Pikachu's Goodbye episode was never even supposed to exist. It was created as a series finale when the Porygon episode almost got the show taken off the air completely, so they could close the story (albeit rather abruptly). This brings up the interesting point that somewhere there may exist an alternate ending where Pikachu doesn't return to Ash.

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Punnyz
07/02/12 7:36:00 PM
#2:


I'm pretty sure this is a largely known fact now

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Jeff Zero
07/02/12 7:37:00 PM
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Does anyone know how they're handling the Zekrom/Reshiram movie having two separate versions? Which is canon? I gotta-gotta-gotta know, I don't have time for these more pointless Pokemon events!

Another fun fact: the swimsuit episode from that first season actually aired a whopping once. I should know, I was there. It aired on Kids WB in 2000 and they billed it as a lost episode, which is kind of funny in retrospect because it had only been around for a couple of years at that point and it's now been twelve years and it's never re-aired, nor has it been put on any official releases.

Also, according to the American canon in which the Dratini/Tauros episode never aired due to the inclusion of a gun, Ash's herd of Tauros literally happened completely offscreen.

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blindhobo13
07/02/12 7:40:00 PM
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From: Jeff Zero | #003
Also, according to the American canon in which the Dratini/Tauros episode never aired due to the inclusion of a gun


also hitler meowth
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Jeff Zero
07/02/12 7:40:00 PM
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From: blindhobo13 | #004
From: Jeff Zero | #003
Also, according to the American canon in which the Dratini/Tauros episode never aired due to the inclusion of a gun


also hitler meowth

haha yes that too

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AdmiralZephyr
07/02/12 7:40:00 PM
#6:


Jeff Zero posted...
Another fun fact: the swimsuit episode from that first season actually aired a whopping once. I should know, I was there. It aired on Kids WB in 2000 and they billed it as a lost episode, which is kind of funny in retrospect because it had only been around for a couple of years at that point and it's now been twelve years and it's never re-aired, nor has it been put on any official releases.

Also, according to the American canon in which the Dratini/Tauros episode never aired due to the inclusion of a gun, Ash's herd of Tauros literally happened completely offscreen.



Yep, I remember them billing the "Lost Episode" all those years ago and I sat intently hoping that it would be either the Dratini or Porygon episode, and instead it ended up being the bikini contest episode. Although according to the VA's, 4Kids DID dub the Dratini and Porygon episodes but Kids WB refused to air them.

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Grand Kirby
07/02/12 7:41:00 PM
#7:


Apparently they did actually dub the Dratini episode, they're just never going to air it. I'd pay to see it.

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Jeff Zero
07/02/12 7:41:00 PM
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Yeah, heh, I read about that last night as well. And I was in the same boat man, I was really hoping it'd be one of those other two. In the end we wound up with the bikini contest sans James and the Giant Breasts, which really... what's the point then?

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AdmiralZephyr
07/02/12 7:49:00 PM
#9:


Grand Kirby posted...
Apparently they did actually dub the Dratini episode, they're just never going to air it. I'd pay to see it.



Honestly, I have a feeling that the Dratini episode will probably get out someday. Maybe as like a 20th anniversary fanservice or something. Honestly, the first season is so far removed from relevancy at this point that the only people who even want to see it now are in their 20s and missed out on it as kids. The Porygon one I think they're unfortunately going to keep a tight lid on.

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WazzupGenius00
07/02/12 7:58:00 PM
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hell, they STILL don't show Porygon or his evolutions in the show except in background shots
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Jeff Zero
07/02/12 8:00:00 PM
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Electric Soldier Wounds Hundreds, Nearly Cancels Television Program

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Zachnorn
07/02/12 8:02:00 PM
#12:


From: Punnyz | #002
I'm pretty sure this is a largely known fact now

This is the first I've heard of it.

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Jeff Zero
07/02/12 8:02:00 PM
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Don't worry Zachnorn, it's kind of overrated.

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MarvelousGerbil
07/02/12 8:45:00 PM
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From: Punnyz | #002
I'm pretty sure this is a largely known fact now


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AdmiralZephyr
07/03/12 12:42:00 PM
#15:


Jeff Zero posted...
Does anyone know how they're handling the Zekrom/Reshiram movie having two separate versions? Which is canon? I gotta-gotta-gotta know, I don't have time for these more pointless Pokemon events!



For what it's worth, I once read that the movies aren't considered canon anyway, so this is rather moot. Although for people like me who do like to fit them into the canon ourselves, then this would present a problem I guess (I haven't made it that far yet).

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MarvelousGerbil
07/03/12 12:44:00 PM
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From: AdmiralZephyr | #015
For what it's worth, I once read that the movies aren't considered canon anyway, so this is rather moot. Although for people like me who do like to fit them into the canon ourselves, then this would present a problem I guess (I haven't made it that far yet).

I think it's pseudo implied that the Heroes is canon due to

Ash's reaction to Trollbias using a Latios

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red13n
07/03/12 12:46:00 PM
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For what it's worth, I once read that the movies aren't considered canon anyway, so this is rather moot. Although for people like me who do like to fit them into the canon ourselves, then this would present a problem I guess (I haven't made it that far yet).


Mewtwo is canon(Complete with memory wipes), the rest as far as I remember do not get acknowledged, though some of them might that I dont remember.

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EmDubyaSee
07/03/12 12:47:00 PM
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From: AdmiralZephyr | #015
Jeff Zero posted...
Does anyone know how they're handling the Zekrom/Reshiram movie having two separate versions? Which is canon? I gotta-gotta-gotta know, I don't have time for these more pointless Pokemon events!



For what it's worth, I once read that the movies aren't considered canon anyway, so this is rather moot. Although for people like me who do like to fit them into the canon ourselves, then this would present a problem I guess (I haven't made it that far yet).



I mean, Mewtwo strikes back is OBVIOULSY canon. I think there are hints of The Power of One being Canon. I know Latios and Latias is canon, and I believe one of the mid movies actually has the city it either starts or ends in in one of the episodes

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GenesisSaga
07/03/12 12:58:00 PM
#19:


I believe Lucario and the Mystery of Mew has been referenced in the anime, or at least


Ash's ability to read auras to some small extent

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AdmiralZephyr
07/03/12 12:58:00 PM
#20:


Mewtwo Strikes Back was always weird for me, because its events clearly tie into the mid-to-late season 1 episodes, but the whole memory wipe thing just seemed like a cop-out to make the events on New Island non-canon.

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AdmiralZephyr
07/04/12 10:46:00 AM
#21:


Grand Kirby posted...
Apparently they did actually dub the Dratini episode, they're just never going to air it. I'd pay to see it.


Interestingly, they use clips from it in the music videos for the Pokerap and What Kind of Pokemon Are You?

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AlphaRayAllen
07/04/12 10:55:00 AM
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Pretty sure you all know this but

Johto was originally supposed to have a story arc revolving around Celebi, but it was canned in favor of giving it a major role in the fourth movie. That's why the GS ball (Which contains Celebi) fell off the face of the earth, and why Johto is remembered for having tons of filler.

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AdmiralZephyr
07/04/12 11:08:00 AM
#23:


Yeah I remember hearing about that, which was dumb because it pretty much made the entire second season pointless in the grand scheme of things, but I didn't know that that's why Johto had ungodly amounts of filler.

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MRLAZYEVERYDAY
07/05/12 6:44:00 PM
#24:


Porygon 2 and Porygon Z has literally never been in the anime anywhere.

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07/05/12 6:51:00 PM
#25:


The second movie is referenced when Ash meets a Lugia in the Orange Islands in the return of Ritchie episode.

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ctesjbuvf
07/05/12 7:51:00 PM
#26:


The tenth movie is referenced when Ash sees a Luxray for the first time in the TV series. He says "We've seen that before." Then scans it.

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