Board 8 > England vs. Match-Fixing and Corruption ~LIVE~

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Let's do this

Inevitable penalty shootout loss gogogo

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That said if we win we get the 'honour' of being KO'd by Germany

"no thanks"

We have to pick our poison

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As a neutral, I really want to see England v Germany, so cheering on you lot tonight. Great rivalry.

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lol, didn't know England were playing against FIFA! If you'll talk of corruption, how about talking of the referees, under FIFA's command, pushing FIFA's favoured team even in the freaking World Cup Final, with billions at stake, not the several thousand some defender in Italy took from a bookmaker to have his team concede a goal (and match fixing totally doesn't happen anywhere except in Italy - and definitely not in England, it's not like QPR let Manchester City score that third goal and win the title because Bolton's match had finished).

As for tonight's match, FORZA ITALIA! The only team that can stop Germany on its own merits (another can do it if the refs work their magic as usual, of course).

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Literally got almost all of their relevant teams relegated.

We are serene and wonderful and innocent (fact) compared to the shower of corruption that is Italian football.

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Lol England.

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Match-Fixing and Corruption 3-0 Bottling c***s that Theo and The Ox have to play alongside

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ExTha probably has it right

It's basically good vs. evil, the problem is the "good" is totally incompetent >_>

It's like

I don't know

It's like quadruple amputee Batman vs. The Joker

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Would quadruple amputee Batman with time to plan still beat The Joker?

Board 8 has made me read far too much into silly analogies.

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So what would Germany be? Guy who killed Batman's parents?

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From: ExThaNemesis | #012
Would quadruple amputee Batman with time to plan still beat The Joker?

Board 8 has made me read far too much into silly analogies.
Probably.

From: RappinHobo9292 | #013
So what would Germany be? Guy who killed Batman's parents?
Bane

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ExTha probably has it right

It's basically good vs. evil, the problem is the "good" is totally incompetent >_>

It's like

I don't know

It's like quadruple amputee Batman vs. The Joker

xfd @ England being "good"... This is rich!

As for Spain, they're the equivalent of the poster buy the management (FIFA) chooses for better profits. Something like Cena - disgusting, boring to watch, yet he always wins. Except, unlike in wrestling, people are fooled into believing there's actual competition.

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Cheering for England so Portugal can beat them in the final.

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lol XIII you are a lot older now, you can'tbe this ignorant still. It's not only Italy that does this crap, they're just the idiotic saps that get caught

if you think otherwise, you're delusional.

I was happy with this match, now I hope they woop your asses. Sans the premiership having money you clowns got nothing on our history, Forza Italia!

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From: Vlado | Posted: 6/24/2012 10:47:57 AM | #006

lol, didn't know England were playing against FIFA! If you'll talk of corruption, how about talking of the referees, under FIFA's command, pushing FIFA's favoured team even in the freaking World Cup Final, with billions at stake, not the several thousand some defender in Italy took from a bookmaker to have his team concede a goal (and match fixing totally doesn't happen anywhere except in Italy - and definitely not in England, it's not like QPR let Manchester City score that third goal and win the title because Bolton's match had finished).

As for tonight's match, FORZA ITALIA! The only team that can stop Germany on its own merits (another can do it if the refs work their magic as usual, of course).

this is very true

Germany can't ever penetrate our defense in a big match where it matters. If italy wins this they're going to the final

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From: Swifticuffs | #017
lol XIII you are a lot older now, you can'tbe this ignorant still. It's not only Italy that does this crap, they're just the idiotic saps that get caught

if you think otherwise, you're delusional.

I was happy with this match, now I hope they woop your asses. Sans the premiership having money you clowns got nothing on our history, Forza Italia!
We have not had our biggest clubs found guilty of match-fixing and corruption and relegated.

Could football be corrupt completely across the board, in the Premiership? Sure, possibly. I'm not rejecting the idea at all, but we haven't been found guilty of it (yet). Until that happens, we're not, factually, guilty of these things. What you have is nothing more than unproven speculation, I have fact.

tl;dr: Not denying the possibility of corruption here, but it's nothing more than a possibility. Unlike Italy, who have been found guilty of it and punished for it.

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xfd @ England being "good"... This is rich!

Contextually we are.

Footballers are utter bellends across the board. Generally they are just... bad human beings. So like, Gerrard is obviously a c***, but then so is <Italian Player X> and <Portugese Player Y>. Our players being bellends doesn't make us the bad guys because in football it's basically the minimum - they're all idiots.

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so you're just gonna cling to internal corruption and blame it on the players and fans who actually play for the passion of it? I blame it on the mafia (jokingly) because how else would these stories become public yet almost every other nation can hide the BS with referees and fixing for revenue and crap? Either way it's not on the world stage, so keep it out of this and get over your dumb hate for Italy. Your team underachieves too much, there's a good chance today Italy stymies them with typical "boring" defense (part of the game, u mad) and then counters to win on maybe 1 or 2 good offensive possessions.

In the event that happens I'll be here, ready to pounce.

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Vlado not gonna lie I kinda expected better from someone of your maturity.

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From: Swifticuffs | #021
so you're just gonna cling to internal corruption and blame it on the players and fans who actually play for the passion of it? I blame it on the mafia (jokingly) because how else would these stories become public yet almost every other nation can hide the BS with referees and fixing for revenue and crap? Either way it's not on the world stage, so keep it out of this and get over your dumb hate for Italy. Your team underachieves too much, there's a good chance today Italy stymies them with typical "boring" defense (part of the game, u mad) and then counters to win on maybe 1 or 2 good offensive possessions.

In the event that happens I'll be here, ready to pounce.

It won't change the fact that Italian is football is rife with match-fixing and corruption.

Like, seriously, we're almost certainly going to lose today. That sucks but I'll get over it. The facts will remain unchanged.

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I don't get the butthurt vitriol towards England

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vlado doesn't like some of the english players i guess

that said, who cares if they matchfix their own league? that's their own crap and problem. it's not like the national team does. there's no facts there.

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From: MISTERNICEWATCH | #024
I don't get the butthurt vitriol towards England
Yeah I mean

Usually it's greatness that is hated and we're clearly not that. Or are we? Like, not the football team, but the country, and that is what it stems from? Who knows.

(also stymie our offence, sure. We've had virtually no offence this tournament. We've been about absorbtion tbh. I don't expect more than a couple of goals at most unless we get an early one, which could open things up)

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From: Swifticuffs | #025
vlado doesn't like some of the english players i guess

that said, who cares if they matchfix their own league?
Me

Whatever team Italy field tonight is Italian football represented at an international level. In this case, that representation is tainted with the stench of corruption.

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yeah that's stupid logic considering nowadays all leagues hold tons of players from other countries playing for teams

so if any player on the team where the officials and big wigs upstairs pulled dumb crap was from a differnet country they too are cheaters by your logic

still not smart

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The clubs are Italian.
The players are Italian.

Every footballing culture has people from different countries, but the clubs as entities are Italian/English/whatever. The league is the Italian league. It's Italian football.

so if any player on the team where the officials and big wigs upstairs pulled dumb crap was from a differnet country they too are cheaters by your logic

Nah, they're not all cheats. But this is English football vs. Italian football. It's not as simple as 11 vs. 11. These are our 11 best footballers vs. yours. They represent the entire country as a footballing nation. What Italy are representing is corruption.

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Man Italians have such a Napoleon Complex about calciopoli, it's amazing. Bring it up and suddenly "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE, EVERYWHERE ELSE IS CORRUPT TOO! RABBLE RABBLE WAFFLE BLAH"

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I don't dislike most of the English players, but the FA is a joke. The way they let Capello go is disgraceful.

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XIII_rocks posted...

Man Italians have such a Napoleon Complex about calciopoli, it's amazing. Bring it up and suddenly "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE, EVERYWHERE ELSE IS CORRUPT TOO! RABBLE RABBLE WAFFLE BLAH"

Sorry, but if you earnestly believe football is clean elsewhere...

XIII_rocks posted...

Nah, they're not all cheats. But this is English football vs. Italian football. It's not as simple as 11 vs. 11. These are our 11 best footballers vs. yours. They represent the entire country as a footballing nation. What Italy are representing is corruption.

Italy represent football at its finest, actually. Very few countries have such passion for the game, only Brazil comes close, really.

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From: XIII_rocks | Posted: 6/24/2012 2:18:23 PM | #029

The clubs are Italian.
The players are Italian.

Every footballing culture has people from different countries, but the clubs as entities are Italian/English/whatever. The league is the Italian league. It's Italian football.

so if any player on the team where the officials and big wigs upstairs pulled dumb crap was from a differnet country they too are cheaters by your logic

Nah, they're not all cheats. But this is English football vs. Italian football. It's not as simple as 11 vs. 11. These are our 11 best footballers vs. yours. They represent the entire country as a footballing nation. What Italy are representing is corruption.

lol ok

so your 11 best represent cheating on their own teammates' wives

i'll take this bigtime super duper corruption players 'represent" where they had nothing to do with it

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because what I see it as: countries are represented far more than just football

italy is known for a wonderful culture, women and fine food

england is known for.... being nothing really noteworthy in the past 300 years except football and they suck at it on the world/european stage

enjoy your representation

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From: Vlado | #032
I don't dislike most of the English players, but the FA is a joke. The way they let Capello go is disgraceful.


Capello openly and publically undermined his bosses on Italian television. I wanted him to stay because he's a good manager, but it makes perfect sense from an employer's perspective. And it's not like he had much leeway to work with after the multiple mistakes he made in 2010 (the players were more at fault but he made a lot of tactical errors).

From: Vlado | #033
Sorry, but if you earnestly believe football is clean elsewhere...


I think it's very possible that football is corrupt elsewhere, but I don't have anything as concrete as what has happened in Italy. There it is fact. Everywhere else, like I said, is wild speculation. I THINK it is. I don't KNOW it is. And you don't know it is either - whereas you do know that Italy is wildly corrupt.

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From: Swifticuffs | #035

england is known for.... being nothing really noteworthy in the past 300 years except football and they suck at it on the world/european stage

what

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so your 11 best represent cheating on their own teammates' wives

i'll take this bigtime super duper corruption players 'represent" where they had nothing to do with it

Technically Bridge was finished with her when Terry moved in I think, but it hardly matters. Like I said, footballers being dickweeds is entirely expected and, as a result, a non-issue. Italian footballers just as bad tbqh.

I like how you couldn't say "racism" because that opens up an entirely new can of worms regarding Italian football!

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From: Swifticuffs | #035

england is known for.... being nothing really noteworthy in the past 300 years except football and they suck at it on the world/european stage

what

It's swift's weak attempts to troll because he is so cranked that what I am speaking is not only absolute fact, he knows it is fact

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Anyway, time to lose, and Spain will be the only white knights left.

Prove me wrong for once England

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what's fact? players have nothing to do with it. you're just mad as you were 8 years ago over italy. and england stinking at football.

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jeez what a fan, declaring loss already. italy isn't even that good this year jeez.

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From: XIII_rocks | Posted: 6/24/2012 2:37:31 PM | #038

so your 11 best represent cheating on their own teammates' wives

i'll take this bigtime super duper corruption players 'represent" where they had nothing to do with it

Technically Bridge was finished with her when Terry moved in I think, but it hardly matters. Like I said, footballers being dickweeds is entirely expected and, as a result, a non-issue. Italian footballers just as bad tbqh.

I like how you couldn't say "racism" because that opens up an entirely new can of worms regarding Italian football!

racism? Italy is finally settling in thankfully. If only balotelli truly didn't act like a jerk, maybe things would progress even faster. It doesn't help the way he acts.

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OH GOD SO CLOSE

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Capello did his best, but you can only do so much with a bunch of mediocre players AND the FA and the media constantly doing their best to sabotage you.

Football IS corrupt everywhere where decent money can be made, if you wanna fool yourself otherwise, that's your own problem.

XIII_rocks posted...

Anyway, time to lose, and Spain will be the only white knights left.

Prove me wrong for once England

Spain - "white knights"? What? I guess being supported by the refs in every single game makes you a "white knight" now.

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what a game

italy look better but this has been stupendous

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Italy'd better stop wasting chances like that. England are super lucky this year and could even win on penalties.

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From: Swifticuffs | #042

jeez what a fan, declaring loss already. italy isn't even that good this year jeez.

that's an english thing

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