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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/12 7:52:00 PM
#401:


And then they'll turn Daniels face two months later.

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ZeroSignal620
06/22/12 8:01:00 PM
#402:


And before last night, I was wondering what was going to win Wrestlecrap's ****er of the Year Award for 2012. I think it's narrowed down right now to the following if the year ended today

- Current TNA storyline with AJ/Dixie/Daniels/rehab girl
- The recently wrapped up Cena/Laurinaitis saga
- Or the Cena/Ryder/Eve/Kane fiasco at the beginning of the year

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 8:04:00 PM
#403:


- James Storm and Samoa Joe both got wins in the Bound for Glory series at the TNA house show in Buffalo, New York tonight. Storm beat Robbie E. to bring his total to 34 points, while Joe beat Mr. Anderson to get his first seven.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/12 8:16:00 PM
#404:


Robbie E has been ROBBED AGAIN.

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Panthera
06/22/12 9:27:00 PM
#405:


From: Jakyl25 | #400
I saw a rumor that one potential turn for the story would be that the baby is Daniels's baby and that he was one of the men who gave her drugs and took advantage of her. IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE, then the angle submarines below every other angle ever created into "most despicable angle of all time" status.


I don't know, I think that at least fulfills your desire of a heel that wouldn't get cheered <_< "Yay, here comes the man who drugged and raped a girl then used her trying to get help with her pregnancy to try to blackmail his former friend and the company boss! I'm so happy! Yay!" just doesn't sound quite right.

That would make for a pretty unpleasant storyline.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/12 9:34:00 PM
#406:


But can you really expect ANYONE to take this storyline seriously enough to start booing Daniels over it?

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 9:34:00 PM
#407:


The ends don't justify the means there!

On a SmackDown note, does anyone else feel like ADR is a bit underrated by smarks? Dude really is as solid as solid can be.

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Panthera
06/22/12 9:38:00 PM
#408:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #406
But can you really expect ANYONE to take this storyline seriously enough to start booing Daniels over it?


I'd boo the writing staff whenever he came out, personally.

From: Jakyl25 | #407
On a SmackDown note, does anyone else feel like ADR is a bit underrated by smarks? Dude really is as solid as solid can be.


I don't know, what's the overall smark opinion on him? What I've seen is basically "good in the ring, bad at promos", and...that's pretty much what I've always thought about him.

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 9:40:00 PM
#409:


I just don't feel like he gets his due amongst the cadre of great talents in WWE

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Lopen
06/22/12 9:44:00 PM
#410:


ADR's awesome.

And as I've said before the only problem with his promos is he has a face promo style as a heel. Which is Miz's problem too to a lesser extent.

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Wanglicious
06/22/12 10:13:00 PM
#411:


Del Rio = good in the ring, good at promos.
but yes, he's a face trapped as a heel right now because he can do heel well. it's just worth noting that for everything else in his career, he has always been face. this is actually his first heel run.

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DeathChicken
06/22/12 10:17:00 PM
#412:


He doesn't really have a character to speak of. I think the last time he really even cut a promo was that one about hiring illegal Canadians to mow his lawn

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Wanglicious
06/22/12 10:26:00 PM
#413:


that's his real problem, yes. he's entirely one dimensional and directionless.

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 10:35:00 PM
#414:


Directionless sure but I can't go as far as one-dimensional.

I think he's fairly well fleshed out as far as wrestling characters go.

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 10:37:00 PM
#415:


SmackDown wins major show of the week.

I'll take a short awful Santino segment over the Cyndi Lauper segment or the AJ/Dixie segment.

Plus it had some great wrestling to boot. Impact was a bit too jam packed this week.

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DeathChicken
06/22/12 10:37:00 PM
#416:


Right now, the only defining trait he seems to have is 'Guy who comes out, reliably beats anyone at or below Christian's level, looks mean, goes away'

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StealThisSheen
06/22/12 10:43:00 PM
#417:




Has this been posted yet.

Even if it has, once isn't enough.

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MrGreenonion
06/22/12 10:52:00 PM
#418:


From: Jakyl25 | #338
Last night was an outburst so today let's be positive.

The resolution to the Aries title conundrum was INCREDIBLE and one of the most productively creative things I've seen in recent memory. Two titles both elevated in one fell swoop and so many boundless possibilities for storylines.


Way off the mark here Jakyl. It just turns the X-Division title into a glorified Money in the Bank briefcase that you can only cash in at Destination X. It completely devalues the X-Division belt because it is no longer a goal worth pursuing in its own right; its only value is as a stepping stone to the world title. Who in their right minds would even WANT the X-Division title immediately after Destination X? Why win it now and have to defend against increasingly-determined challengers all year, when you could just win it at Slammiversary and throw it away without ever having to defend it?

It's pretty widely accepted that vacating a title detracts from its prestige, at least temporarily. Why would it be a GOOD thing to set a title up to be vacated on an annual basis?

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 10:59:00 PM
#419:


Japanese companies have done it! <_<

From: MrGreenonion | #418
It just turns the X-Division title into a glorified Money in the Bank briefcase that you can only cash in at Destination X.

Again, that's far more than it was before this week.

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Lopen
06/22/12 11:06:00 PM
#420:


I actually think that's far more than most titles are at this point. If I'm a wrestler if I'm not owning a world title I want the X Division title at this point. The US and IC Titles are a joke right now, so is the WWE Tag. You could maybe make a case that it's the least prestigious TNA title at this point but yeah.

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 11:09:00 PM
#421:


No title in wrestling is less prestigious right now than Knockouts Tag.

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JaKyL25
06/22/12 11:17:00 PM
#422:


Heck maybe we can even have a storyline next spring about Bully Ray trying to make weight.

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Lopen
06/22/12 11:22:00 PM
#423:


It has so little prestige I'd forgotten it existed, yeah.

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Wanglicious
06/22/12 11:28:00 PM
#424:


see, titles being 'stepping stones' is what they already unofficially are. if you mean that it devalues this belt because it makes the title not worth having at the level of the main belt, then yes. that's certainly true. something like this very clearly makes it not worth as much as the main belt.

but it wasn't already. and tier 2 belts exist as unofficial stepping stones. none is a bigger offender than WWE at this with how much they gloat about all the people who've held the IC that went on to become world champions. you're a level underneath used to assume that you'll get the main belt later. this however assures that actually does happen and you're given a chance to compete.

really, they'll work out the kinks to this next time when they DONT' have someone murder the division like Aries did. immediately assumed that a heel would win at the match before destination x dirty, thusly setting you off for the 'final qualifier' to who fights at the PPV between X-Division champs ala No. 1 contendership from those who 'deserve' it. they'll try to figure things out then, have people deny, etc. if you want the X-Division title to matter MORE then... outside of being able to do the reverse with the main belt and the two flipping back and forth (this would be a cool way for a heel to mark himself as 'the longest time with gold'), can't see it happen. however mattering and being a decisive No. 2 belt makes it the strongest possible midcard belt out there.

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Masato_Tanaka
06/23/12 12:08:00 AM
#425:


RAW was pretty lame, but Smackdown was really great, the tag division actually startin to look badass again! And Dolph/Sheamus, Christian/Del Rio bringing some solid matches.

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Rad Link 5
06/23/12 9:44:00 AM
#426:


Scott Steiner, Christopher Notwinski, Bubba and D-Von Dudley, and Tommy Dreamer form the greatest stable in the history of our sport.

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Rad Link 5
06/23/12 11:08:00 AM
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JaKyL25
06/23/12 11:16:00 AM
#428:


KOFI KINSTON

http://www.wweshop.com/item/wwe-camo-pink-toddler-t-shirt/NewUpcoming/01-15310
Surely this camo is essential if...you are infiltrating a cotton candy vat.

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 11:29:00 AM
#429:


http://shoptna.com/tna-dvd-board-game.aspx

We should all get together and play this!

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TimJab
06/23/12 12:23:00 PM
#430:


From: Jakyl25 | #422
Heck maybe we can even have a storyline next spring about Bully Ray trying to make weight.


i'm pretty sure TNA already did this exact storyline

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TimJab
06/23/12 12:24:00 PM
#431:


The next feud had Team 3D along with the X-Division traitor Johnny Devine against The Motor City Machineguns and the entire TNA X Division. Team 3D and Devine lost at Against All Odds 2008 meaning that they have to be under two-hundred seventy-five pounds in order to compete in the X Division. However, the angle was dropped.

yeah that's in

i remember them having to weigh in every week

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 12:27:00 PM
#432:


So it had weight limits before too?

Jeez make up your mind TNA

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Rad Link 5
06/23/12 12:29:00 PM
#433:


From: Jakyl25 | #428
http://www.wweshop.com/item/survivor-series-plaque-mark-henry/Memorabilia/10-00701
"Commemorating this historic win..."

Is it any wonder they still have some left in stock?

From: Jakyl25 | #429
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We should all get together and play this!

I feel like the game was probably written by Russo.

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Rad Link 5
06/23/12 12:30:00 PM
#434:


And yeah, I vividly remember them weighing in after eating a ton of junkfood in the Fish Market Street Fight, for whatever reason.

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 12:30:00 PM
#435:


From: Rad Link 5 | #433
From: Jakyl25 | #428
http://www.wweshop.com/item/survivor-series-plaque-mark-henry/Memorabilia/10-00701
"Commemorating this historic win..."
Is it any wonder they still have some left in stock?


(I was implying that it was funny because he actually lost that match by DQ)

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Rad Link 5
06/23/12 12:45:00 PM
#436:


I know you were.

I'm saying the fact that their plaque commemorating Mark Henry beating Big Show via disqualification, which was almost definitely made in very limited quantities, is still in stock all these months later is as hilarious as it is predictable.

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PAE for this PD
06/23/12 12:49:00 PM
#437:


I think the first X Division Title weight limit was only put in to make a comedic storyline out of.

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MartinFF7
06/23/12 12:55:00 PM
#438:


Mark Henry plaques?!

Take all my money, wweshop.com

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 1:09:00 PM
#439:


For statisticians:

-Austin Aries wrote on Twitter, providing an update on the status of the X Division title. He wrote: "To be clear: I will vacate my X-Division Championship for a shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship at Destination X. HOWEVER.... I will officially keep my (X Division) title until July 8th, the day of the PPV, to keep my collateral and guard against being left empty handed......if shenanigans try to prevent my World Title shot, like @REALBobbyRoode catching Chickenpox or excessively pulling his groin until blind."

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SythaWarrior
06/23/12 1:13:00 PM
#440:


This is a groin pull the likes you've never seen in your whole life, this is a REAL injury.

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 1:15:00 PM
#441:


Maybe Roode can defend against that Zema Neutron, he's a high flyer of the highest magnitude!

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Wanglicious
06/23/12 1:48:00 PM
#442:


man, groin pulls that make you go blind. TNA officially written by 80 year old nuns.
hey it'd explain the pregnant druggy angle too.

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MrGreenonion
06/23/12 2:07:00 PM
#443:


No wonder it was a groin pull the likes you've never seen, it made you go blind so you literally couldn't see it!

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SythaWarrior
06/23/12 2:28:00 PM
#444:


That Bret Hart promo is so good. I see "Groin pull" and I just smile and think about that Promo.

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 4:18:00 PM
#445:


Daniel Bryan @WWEDanielBryan
Just finished eating at Panera Bread. The Ryback refused to even walk in...

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MartinFF7
06/23/12 4:24:00 PM
#446:


lllloooooool, oh god. I'm so glad I watched the interview to get that reference. so good.

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Panthera
06/23/12 5:30:00 PM
#447:


If Panera has a representative (like Subway's Jared), they need to get that guy to make an appearance so Ryback can fight him

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/23/12 5:33:00 PM
#448:


The Thesz Press: Coming to you after the WWE Network comes out.

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JaKyL25
06/23/12 10:25:00 PM
#449:


- Tonight in Oshawa, ONT, Samoa Joe picked up 10 points and Daniels picked up 5 points in the Bound For Glory Series. Joe earned his points via submission victory over Robbie E, while Daniels scored a count-out victory over Kurt Angle.

Credit: pwtorch.com

UPDATED BOUND FOR GLORY SERIES STANDINGS AFTER SATURDAY NIGHT
* James Storm – 34 points

* Samoa Joe – 17 points

* Kurt Angle – 10 points

* Mr. Anderson – 7 points
* Magnus – 7 points
* Pope D'Angelo Dinero – 7 points
* Jeff Hardy – 7 points

* Christopher Daniels – 5 points

* Rob Van Dam – 0 points
* AJ Styles – 0 points
* Bully Ray – 0 points
* Robbie E – 0 points

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Panthera
06/23/12 10:28:00 PM
#450:


James Storm has a big lead, so he's guaranteed to not win, right?

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