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HeroDelTiempo17
06/17/12 9:18:00 AM
#201:


What an incredibly non-s****y twist!

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Tehmoosey1
06/17/12 9:26:00 AM
#202:


So, is Calliope pronounced "Cal-ee-oap", or is it "Cal-eye-o-pi"?

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tereziWright
06/17/12 9:39:00 AM
#203:


Altimadark posted...
The Jaw

Doesn't Stop Dropping

EDIT: If we're to presume uu is LE, how does this match up with his pesterlog right here:

uu: SOMEONE COMMISSIONED JACK. SORT OF.
uu: PuT OuT A HIT ON YOuR ENTIRE uNIVERSE. AND ALL ITS INTERNAL ITERATIONS.


I was under the addition that this was a younger LE.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/17/12 9:48:00 AM
#204:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #202
So, is Calliope pronounced "Cal-ee-oap", or is it "Cal-eye-o-pi"?

Acording to dictionary.com, the first is the musical instrument and the second is the Muse.

So, probably the latter.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/17/12 9:54:00 AM
#205:


also re: blood colors and stuff

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006011

We do know that LE's blood color is red.

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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 9:58:00 AM
#206:


(sees update)

.....

...........

..................

WHAT THE ****!?

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GeneralKenobi85
06/17/12 10:08:00 AM
#207:


Well s***

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Altimadark
06/17/12 10:30:00 AM
#208:


So a thought occurs to me

They weren't just taking The Tumor to where the green sun was meant to be, but also where LE's deadself was trapped beyond the outer rim, giving him a host body to escape with.

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BonetaiI
06/17/12 11:59:00 AM
#209:


I made more fanmusic. This time for Derse

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SovietOmega
06/17/12 12:45:00 PM
#210:


The second uu mentioned being potentiall born it made me think of LE, but I could not really connect a viable path other than speculation of the sort 'maybe uu is LE! maybe fedorafreak is LE! maybe LE doesn't really exist at all!'

But damn...

Really, UU has more in common it seems with the troll connection and uranus thing. Eh...

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Karrablast
06/17/12 12:59:00 PM
#211:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #197
Hm, come to think of it, it may be that UU's dream self simply had lime blood because dream selves are a reflection of the mind, and UU so much wanted to be a troll that her dream self actually became one?

But her human body is limeblooded too, as show as the color of her blush in contrast to uu's

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/17/12 2:46:00 PM
#212:


Ha, there's so much fanart on tumblr and skaianet that tries to make Calliope look cute.

And then there's this:
http://ib.skaia.net/post/view/47537

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Paratroopa1
06/17/12 2:57:00 PM
#213:


There's something that I'm confused about now -

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006875

What's with the color of her legs here?

It was a great bit of misdirection though - we felt that we had "seen" her at this point, and didn't assume that she would turn out to be something totally f***ing weird. At least, I didn't.

It had always bothered me that Calliope seemed like a troll but didn't seem to quite fit with the rest of the trolls, like there was just no way that she could be one because it messed with the symmetry and there was no way that other trolls could exist. So this answer satisfies that at least.
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HeroDelTiempo17
06/17/12 3:05:00 PM
#214:


I'm pretty sure those are just her leggings.

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Paratroopa1
06/17/12 3:05:00 PM
#215:


Ah, okay. That would make sense.

I was under some weird assumption that Calliope was black, haha.
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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 3:13:00 PM
#216:




and thennn the update

XD

so just wondering does UU want Lil Cal (the one with Dirk) destroyed so Lil Cal (the one with Gamzee) doesn't get messed up or something?

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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 3:16:00 PM
#217:


also this is the absolute best UU pic obviously

http://ib.skaia.net/post/view/47518?search=calliope

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SovietOmega
06/17/12 3:42:00 PM
#218:


http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006761

something something king and queen being switched

i am really starting to think that uu is not going to be as directly LE as we think...especially with UU's troll admiration and uranus spin connection...

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SovietOmega
06/17/12 3:56:00 PM
#219:


and on a whim i dipped into the forums and found someone taking about an interesting connection between uu/UU and Ses hat and Thoth from egyptian mythology.

"First we have Ses hat. Of note from her wiki page:

She is frequently shown dressed in a cheetah or leopard hide, a symbol of funerary priests. If not shown with the hide over a dress, the pattern of the dress is that of the spotted feline. The pattern on the natural hide was thought to represent the stars, being a symbol of eternity, and to be associated with the night sky.

Ses hat assisted the pharaoh in the "stretching the cord" ritual. This ritual is related to laying out the foundations of temples and other important structures in order to determine and assure the sacred alignments and the precision of the dimensions. Her skills were necessary for surveying the land after the annual floods to reestablish boundary lines. The priestess who officiated at these functions in her name also oversaw the staff of others who performed similar duties and were trained in mathematics and the related store of knowledge.

After the pairing with Thoth the emblem of Ses hat was shown surmounted by a crescent moon, which, over time, degenerated into being shown as two horns arranged to form a crescent shape, but pointing downward (in an atypical fashion for Egyptian art). When the crescent moon symbol had degenerated into the horns, she sometimes was known as Safekh-Aubi, meaning she who wears the two horns.[7] In a few images the horns resemble two cobras, as depicted in hieroglyphs, but facing each other with heads touching.
She's also seen as a scribe and to have invented writing, which is a kind of vague link to Calliope in greek mythology as her emblem was a writing tablet.

Her male counterpart is Thoth.

Thoth is credited with creating the calendar and is the 'reckoner of time and of seasons'.

This site suggests that Thoth and Ses hat were just aspects of each other, and that as Thoth grew more important he absorbed her roles and priesthood (no temples dedicated to her have been found, though evidence of her having priests does exist).

Also amusing- They had a child named Hornub, which is interesting considering the occasional hint of links to the sufferer. "

(and lol@ gfaqs for informing me that part of the goddess's name is a banned word. sigh)

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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 4:39:00 PM
#220:


fits with the whole Lord English sarcophagus thing

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tereziWright
06/17/12 4:46:00 PM
#221:


From: BonetaiI | #209
I made more fanmusic. This time for Derse

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Give it a pop


Really like the latter 2/3 of this.

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Drakeryn
06/17/12 4:57:00 PM
#222:


http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006375

The poster depicts the notorious chess match between Calmasis and Zazzerpan. Zazzerpan had a reputation for being unbeatable. He had never lost a match, even to the gods. But his apprentice was able to beat him in the wizard's duel by first becoming checkmated, and through some unprecedented enchantment, continuing to play beyond the death of the king.

...man.


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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 11:22:00 PM
#223:


lol looked at forums for responses to update XD

also someone brought up a good point

why the heck did UU tell Roxy that specific piece of information?

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GeneralKenobi85
06/17/12 11:25:00 PM
#224:


Wondering this too.

If anyone, you'd think Dirk would be the best of the kids to reveal it to. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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Pirateking2000
06/17/12 11:28:00 PM
#225:


well then again UU probably told her due to her void powers

but again as was said on the forums

Roxy: HAH HEY LORD ENGLISH!

LE: ?

Roxy: CALIPOP

LE: .....

Roxy: Wait ****

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tcaz2
06/18/12 12:32:00 AM
#226:


From: Pirateking2000 | #223
why the heck did UU tell Roxy that specific piece of information?


Maybe her void powers prevent anyone from seeing that UU told her?

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YetAnothrShadow
06/18/12 4:15:00 AM
#227:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #212
Ha, there's so much fanart on tumblr and skaianet that tries to make Calliope look cute.

And then there's this:
http://ib.skaia.net/post/view/47537


Can't stop laughing.

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Lightning Strikes
06/18/12 4:40:00 AM
#228:


Okay, wow. Just read the update.

I did not expect the most shocking reveal of the comic. It's amazing how well this works. This completely turns the comic on its head and brings so much tto light it's incredible that it did this while still being surprising. And the thing is, it was staring us in the face the whole time. SO MUCH hints towards this, but nobody got it. I knew there was going to be a connection from the start (the lime themes, the British speech, even the strange connection in the names to Bec) but this didn't even occur.

Well played Hussie, well played. You got me good.

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muddersmilk
06/18/12 7:16:00 AM
#229:


Drakeryn posted...
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006375

The poster depicts the notorious chess match between Calmasis and Zazzerpan. Zazzerpan had a reputation for being unbeatable. He had never lost a match, even to the gods. But his apprentice was able to beat him in the wizard's duel by first becoming checkmated, and through some unprecedented enchantment, continuing to play beyond the death of the king.

...man.


How is this just being noticed.

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Altimadark
06/18/12 7:45:00 AM
#230:


As long as we're on that subject; if we're presuming LE is uu, and thus a time player and we know UU is a space player, what does this exchange mean?

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006249

TEREZI Dialoglog
W3 TROLLS TR34T D34TH 1TS3LF 4S 4 MYTHOLOG1C4L F1GUR3
H3 1S 4 M4N W1TH 4 FR1GHT3N1NG SKULL FOR 4 H34D 4ND 4 T3RR1BL3 HYPNOT1C GL4R3


DAVE Dialoglog
wait wait no how about [Death] got a BLACK ROBE too


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Pirateking2000
06/18/12 9:12:00 AM
#231:


another random question

What happened in this these topics when Cascade came out?

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tereziWright
06/18/12 9:14:00 AM
#232:


Most people could not watch it.

Some of us watched streams.

Then I uploaded it to mediafire and saved the daaaaaaaaay.

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Pirateking2000
06/18/12 9:20:00 AM
#233:


also another thing I just realized

remember that thing in Intermission 2?

ATH (U) thing

hmm....

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Nogoodnamesnow
06/18/12 10:05:00 AM
#234:


Pirateking2000 posted...
also another thing I just realized

remember that thing in Intermission 2?

ATH (U) thing

hmm....


That was mentioned back in Act 5 Act 1. That code summons English when the universe dies. The U stands for universe.

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mnkboy907
06/18/12 5:39:00 PM
#235:


After a huge revelation like this, how likely is it we're at the end of the act and might be getting a flash to wrap things up before heading into the next intermission?

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tereziWright
06/18/12 5:40:00 PM
#236:


Very likely I think.

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Nogoodnamesnow
06/18/12 8:29:00 PM
#237:


Well, it is around the number of pages where you'd expect the sub act to start ending (judging from the length of the previous ones in Act 6 so far)

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tcaz2
06/18/12 8:34:00 PM
#238:


I'm not so sure we're at the end of the Act, but I'd say we're at least getting a mid-Act flash VERY soon, possibly even next update.

Though it very well could be the end of the Act.

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GANON1025
06/18/12 9:19:00 PM
#239:


Just finished getting caught up

man

never would have expected that. once again, hussie has (well, might have) developed a villain on-screen without anyone actually knowing

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/18/12 11:00:00 PM
#240:


dat one panel update

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Lord Bob Bree
06/18/12 11:01:00 PM
#241:


That holster looks somewhat familiar...

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mnkboy907
06/18/12 11:01:00 PM
#242:


I want to go to there.

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Kirbydamasta
06/18/12 11:08:00 PM
#243:


why is there a raw steak on the floor

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/18/12 11:08:00 PM
#244:


There's a ~ath manual too. Which the summoning code was written in.

and.......bloody steaks? what the hell is that supposed to be

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mnkboy907
06/18/12 11:10:00 PM
#245:


The shackle has uu's symbol on it...

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Tehmoosey1
06/18/12 11:13:00 PM
#246:


Best thing about this update is JUJUBES. Honestly, that's what I thought of every time she mentioned the word "Juju" earlier.

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Lord Bob Bree
06/18/12 11:20:00 PM
#247:


I wonder if UU's dreamself being dead has something to do with there being no UU shackle. an

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Paratroopa1
06/19/12 12:52:00 AM
#248:


Earlier, we saw a panel where Calliope(?)'s ankles were chained - one with Calliope's Caduceus symbol, and one with uu's Ophiuchus symbol.

Now we see Calliope's shackle unlocked but uu's is still locked.

I think the "same body" theory is looking to be more and more a sure bet, though the exact mechanics of it are still a mystery (how do dream selves work, etc).

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Paratroopa1
06/19/12 1:00:00 AM
#249:


Hey look more Calliope's room stuff.

Thanks Hussie, I actually was wondering how Calliope's name was pronounced.
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kevwaffles
06/19/12 3:44:00 AM
#250:


Hmmm, this actually has the first evidence against the single body theory in it, if you assume LE is uu.

http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_English

LE is missing the wrong leg, assuming uu has to cut his way out Saw style.

(Of course there is still such overwhelming evidence to the contrary that I don't know what to make of it.)

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