Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 163: In which the Funkasaurus roams the Universe

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XIII_rocks 01/11/12 4:25:00 PM #351:	From: JaKyL25 \| #347 $106 Million YOUR LOGIC HAS NO PLACE HERE -- http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7351/xiiirocks.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:650386] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #347$106 MillionYOUR LOGIC HAS NO PLACE HERE -- http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7351/xiiirocks.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:30:00 PM #352:	From: JaKyL25 \| #339 Well then it's a good thing Rock is one of the least-selfish main-eventers they've ever had. The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter? Also I actually kind of like Kane's current theme. It's better than his last theme, anyway, just by virtue of having Out of the Fire in it. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3984/tumblrle5rxjm27j1qcrr8a.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650387] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #339Well then it's a good thing Rock is one of the least-selfish main-eventers they've ever had.The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter?Also I actually kind of like Kane's current theme. It's better than his last theme, anyway, just by virtue of having Out of the Fire in it. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3984/tumblrle5rxjm27j1qcrr8a.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:31:00 PM #353:	Cena won't turn heel until he stops being hugely profitable. I think the flaw is that the WWE is not taking a serious enough approach to building up someone who could push merchandise just as well. Cena going over Rock makes sense, but there's no chance in hell I would guarantee it. Nor would I make it the most likely scenario, honestly. There's plenty of reasons why Rock would go over in this situation. Especially if it ends up being THE final match of the night. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650388] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Cena won't turn heel until he stops being hugely profitable. I think the flaw is that the WWE is not taking a serious enough approach to building up someone who could push merchandise just as well. Cena going over Rock makes sense, but there's no chance in hell I would guarantee it. Nor would I make it the most likely scenario, honestly. There's plenty of reasons why Rock would go over in this situation. Especially if it ends up being THE final match of the night. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:31:00 PM #354:	The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter? Whoa, when did that happen? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650389] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter?Whoa, when did that happen? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:33:00 PM #355:	From: TheRock1525 \| #353 Cena won't turn heel until he stops being hugely profitable. I think the flaw is that the WWE is not taking a serious enough approach to building up someone who could push merchandise just as well. Punk does really good merch sales, but his problem is ratings. It's the same problem that keeps cropping up: the fans who spend money on the product have vastly different tastes than the fans watching at home for free, and Cena is the only one who captures a large segment of both markets. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650390] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #353Cena won't turn heel until he stops being hugely profitable. I think the flaw is that the WWE is not taking a serious enough approach to building up someone who could push merchandise just as well.Punk does really good merch sales, but his problem is ratings. It's the same problem that keeps cropping up: the fans who spend money on the product have vastly different tastes than the fans watching at home for free, and Cena is the only one who captures a large segment of both markets. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:34:00 PM #356:	heels can be profitable too. they just need to move their merch along. besides, punk is killing everyone right now, so they can do it if they wanted to. if a heel cena gets them more ppv buys, more people watching, and his sales drop a bit in the process it's worth it because somebody else is filling his merch shoes. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650391] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> heels can be profitable too. they just need to move their merch along. besides, punk is killing everyone right now, so they can do it if they wanted to. if a heel cena gets them more ppv buys, more people watching, and his sales drop a bit in the process it's worth it because somebody else is filling his merch shoes. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:34:00 PM #357:	Is it even in question that this is the final match of the night? Even CM Punk said it was going to be the main event when he was kayfabe renegotiating his contract. And honestly, it being the main event doesn't push things in The Rock's favor anyway. The only thing it really does is make the Cena heel turn still a possibility, since there's no way Cena goes heel and then they put another match on after that. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/t9dquw.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650392] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Is it even in question that this is the final match of the night? Even CM Punk said it was going to be the main event when he was kayfabe renegotiating his contract.And honestly, it being the main event doesn't push things in The Rock's favor anyway. The only thing it really does is make the Cena heel turn still a possibility, since there's no way Cena goes heel and then they put another match on after that. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i53.tinypic.com/t9dquw.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:34:00 PM #358:	From: TheRock1525 \| #354 The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter? Whoa, when did that happen? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650393] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #354The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter?Whoa, when did that happen? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:36:00 PM #359:	also, punk's ratings aren't actually bad like orton's are. they're consistent and keep a certain status quo going. but really you aren't going to get people to watch because of X person who people are only NOW learning about. you need them to have exposure, bring them up, and THEN get them. that's why the older guys get ratings - they're known. by all means, wwe should continue to push punk to the forefront as much as they can because in 1-2 year's time, he'll be ratings. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650394] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> also, punk's ratings aren't actually bad like orton's are. they're consistent and keep a certain status quo going. but really you aren't going to get people to watch because of X person who people are only NOW learning about. you need them to have exposure, bring them up, and THEN get them. that's why the older guys get ratings - they're known. by all means, wwe should continue to push punk to the forefront as much as they can because in 1-2 year's time, he'll be ratings. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:38:00 PM #360:	From: Wanglicious \| #356 heels can be profitable too. they just need to move their merch along. besides, punk is killing everyone right now, so they can do it if they wanted to. if a heel cena gets them more ppv buys, more people watching, and his sales drop a bit in the process it's worth it because somebody else is filling his merch shoes. I completely agree, IF you can actually have long-term planning in WWE to really build things properly. I just hope the Network doesn't scare them away from any major creative changes in the product. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650395] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #356heels can be profitable too. they just need to move their merch along. besides, punk is killing everyone right now, so they can do it if they wanted to. if a heel cena gets them more ppv buys, more people watching, and his sales drop a bit in the process it's worth it because somebody else is filling his merch shoes.I completely agree, IF you can actually have long-term planning in WWE to really build things properly.I just hope the Network doesn't scare them away from any major creative changes in the product. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 01/11/12 4:38:00 PM #361:	Yeah I'm not sure why people think heel Cena is suddenly going to pull the plug on Cena merchandise. I'm pretty sure nWo shirts outsold Hogan shirts pretty damn easy, for instance. Not that it's quite the same but yeah. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:650396] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I'm not sure why people think heel Cena is suddenly going to pull the plug on Cena merchandise. I'm pretty sure nWo shirts outsold Hogan shirts pretty damn easy, for instance. Not that it's quite the same but yeah. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:38:00 PM #362:	...and piggybacking to that, Punk/Jericho would be really interesting to see h ow the ratings perform. i'd imagine a good spike happens due to Jericho, but the idea there is that Punk will capture most of them. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650397] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> ...and piggybacking to that, Punk/Jericho would be really interesting to see h ow the ratings perform. i'd imagine a good spike happens due to Jericho, but the idea there is that Punk will capture most of them. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:39:00 PM #363:	From: Wanglicious \| #359 also, punk's ratings aren't actually bad like orton's are. they're consistent and keep a certain status quo going. I keep reading that Punk's segments tank the ratings. I don't know because I don't even know where people are supposedly seeing the segment-by-segment ratings of Raw. Also I've heard Orton's ratings are bad as champion, since people find him less interesting when things are going in his favor. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/34or19k.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650398] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #359also, punk's ratings aren't actually bad like orton's are. they're consistent and keep a certain status quo going.I keep reading that Punk's segments tank the ratings.I don't know because I don't even know where people are supposedly seeing the segment-by-segment ratings of Raw. Also I've heard Orton's ratings are bad as champion, since people find him less interesting when things are going in his favor. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i55.tinypic.com/34or19k.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimJab 01/11/12 4:41:00 PM #364:	to answer a question from the last topic, hunico sucked before WWE i haven't seen him since he joined the roster, but he almost killed ricochet in chikara -- http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6967/timfavre.png <cite>TimJab posted [p:650399] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> to answer a question from the last topic, hunico sucked before WWEi haven't seen him since he joined the roster, but he almost killed ricochet in chikara -- http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6967/timfavre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:41:00 PM #365:	you can take an even more recent example - heel Punk. Nexus. these guys had some pretty solid sales (especially Nexus) and while that isn't the same demographically, you'd get some reaction out of it that'd be definitely interesting which should span across all of 'em. and of course the guy who fights heel cena will get shot to the moon with merch and ratings alike. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650400] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> you can take an even more recent example - heel Punk. Nexus. these guys had some pretty solid sales (especially Nexus) and while that isn't the same demographically, you'd get some reaction out of it that'd be definitely interesting which should span across all of 'em.and of course the guy who fights heel cena will get shot to the moon with merch and ratings alike. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:41:00 PM #366:	From: Wanglicious \| #359 but really you aren't going to get people to watch because of X person who people are only NOW learning about. you need them to have exposure, bring them up, and THEN get them. that's why the older guys get ratings - they're known. by all means, wwe should continue to push punk to the forefront as much as they can because in 1-2 year's time, he'll be ratings. Again, you're absolutely right, but if all the ex-Creative guys are to be believed, Vince has grown increasingly short-sighted over the years, and if anyone in his ear has an agenda against Punk, they will spin things any way they can to dissuade Vince against pushing him harder. Keeping him in the middle of the show with no mic time really isn't a great sign to be honest. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650401] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #359but really you aren't going to get people to watch because of X person who people are only NOW learning about. you need them to have exposure, bring them up, and THEN get them. that's why the older guys get ratings - they're known. by all means, wwe should continue to push punk to the forefront as much as they can because in 1-2 year's time, he'll be ratings.Again, you're absolutely right, but if all the ex-Creative guys are to be believed, Vince has grown increasingly short-sighted over the years, and if anyone in his ear has an agenda against Punk, they will spin things any way they can to dissuade Vince against pushing him harder.Keeping him in the middle of the show with no mic time really isn't a great sign to be honest. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:42:00 PM #367:	*Rad Link 5 posted...* From: TheRock1525 \| #354 The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter? Whoa, when did that happen? I listened up until he said Cena's great on the mic. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650402] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Rad Link 5 posted...From: TheRock1525 \| #354The man who called in and complained to Vince because Orton was on a radio show and said Cena is better for not needing a teleprompter?Whoa, when did that happen?I listened up until he said Cena's great on the mic. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/11/12 4:43:00 PM #368:	Cena is good on the mic >_> -- "My goal is to make this s* cool again." - CM Punk <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:650403] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Cena is good on the mic >_> -- "My goal is to make this s* cool again." - CM Punk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:45:00 PM #369:	*XIII_rocks posted...* Cena is good on the mic >_> Nope. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650404] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> XIII_rocks posted...Cena is good on the mic >_>Nope. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:45:00 PM #370:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #363 I don't know because I don't even know where people are supposedly seeing the segment-by-segment ratings of Raw. Also I've heard Orton's ratings are bad as champion, since people find him less interesting when things are going in his favor. Orton's ratings are bad even when he's not Champion. <_< Ratings spike for Cena and Divas (and legends), little else. Which is entirely WWE's fault because they can't ask casual viewers who don't watch every segment to get behind guys if they only get pushed for a month or two and then demoted. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650405] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #363I don't know because I don't even know where people are supposedly seeing the segment-by-segment ratings of Raw. Also I've heard Orton's ratings are bad as champion, since people find him less interesting when things are going in his favor.Orton's ratings are bad even when he's not Champion. <_<Ratings spike for Cena and Divas (and legends), little else. Which is entirely WWE's fault because they can't ask casual viewers who don't watch every segment to get behind guys if they only get pushed for a month or two and then demoted. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:46:00 PM #371:	WWE is too afraid to take anything resembling a risk that might require a significant dip in ratings to trade-off for a long term payoff down the road. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650406] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> WWE is too afraid to take anything resembling a risk that might require a significant dip in ratings to trade-off for a long term payoff down the road. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:48:00 PM #372:	I'm pretty sure their fear is that they've already built themselves on the backs of a very young demographic thanks to John Cena, and they feel turning Cena heel would essentially rip that foundation out from under them with no guarantee that the old foundation would return. Because honestly, if half of the viewers 13 and under stopped watching and buying merch, I'm pretty sure they'd start falling into the red in record time. From: JaKyL25 \| #366 if anyone in his ear has an agenda against Punk People in Vince's ear have had an agenda against Punk since he debuted in ECW. I don't know if that's changed, but like you said, him being stuck in the middle of the show with no mic time doesn't bode well at all. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/81/1768646.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650407] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> I'm pretty sure their fear is that they've already built themselves on the backs of a very young demographic thanks to John Cena, and they feel turning Cena heel would essentially rip that foundation out from under them with no guarantee that the old foundation would return. Because honestly, if half of the viewers 13 and under stopped watching and buying merch, I'm pretty sure they'd start falling into the red in record time.From: JaKyL25 \| #366if anyone in his ear has an agenda against PunkPeople in Vince's ear have had an agenda against Punk since he debuted in ECW. I don't know if that's changed, but like you said, him being stuck in the middle of the show with no mic time doesn't bode well at all. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img848.imageshack.us/img848/81/1768646.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:48:00 PM #373:	Then they're gonna be totally boned whenever Cena gets hurt or leaves again. ALL DIVAS ALL THE TIME -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650408] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Then they're gonna be totally boned whenever Cena gets hurt or leaves again.ALL DIVAS ALL THE TIME -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:49:00 PM #374:	Yeah, eventually Cena is going to leave the WWE one way or another. It might be a long ways off but it is inevitable. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650409] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, eventually Cena is going to leave the WWE one way or another. It might be a long ways off but it is inevitable. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:49:00 PM #375:	yeah, punk not having a mic really has been frustrating to me. i mean this angle isn't really working either. ace isn't vince, punk isn't austin. he's a different kind of badboy. while austin was more about beating you down, punk is more about being a dick. you can't shoehorn a rock/jericho persona to be austin. and ace is too clean to be vince there, and actually being very clean/neutral on most things. hard to REALLY hate him the way you could hate vince who legitimately screwed someone over infamously. he's stuck in a nowhere angle right now and wwe doesn't know what to do with it. they put their foot in and instead of trying to find a way out just sink into quicksand. for better or worse, ace shouldn't be involved in a story with any INDIVIDUAL person right now. they're playing a lot of stuff all wrong and it's hurting the program because nobody can just say with full conviction 'i love this guy!' or 'i hate this guy!' on it. the ME needs a natural feud going, and there is absolutely no reason Punk/Ziggler can't handle it on their own. alas... -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650410] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> yeah, punk not having a mic really has been frustrating to me. i mean this angle isn't really working either. ace isn't vince, punk isn't austin. he's a different kind of badboy. while austin was more about beating you down, punk is more about being a dick. you can't shoehorn a rock/jericho persona to be austin. and ace is too clean to be vince there, and actually being very clean/neutral on most things. hard to REALLY hate him the way you could hate vince who legitimately screwed someone over infamously. he's stuck in a nowhere angle right now and wwe doesn't know what to do with it. they put their foot in and instead of trying to find a way out just sink into quicksand. for better or worse, ace shouldn't be involved in a story with any INDIVIDUAL person right now. they're playing a lot of stuff all wrong and it's hurting the program because nobody can just say with full conviction 'i love this guy!' or 'i hate this guy!' on it. the ME needs a natural feud going, and there is absolutely no reason Punk/Ziggler can't handle it on their own. alas... -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:50:00 PM #376:	From: JaKyL25 \| #370 Ratings spike for Cena and Divas Are you for real? You know, Orton and Ryder get ridiculous pops, but I hear their ratings tank harder than anyone's, so I think that really goes to show the divide in the audience right now (and more importantly, how one side of the divide is bigger than the other, and why WWE is afraid to take risks). -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/21ozujs.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650411] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #370Ratings spike for Cena and DivasAre you for real?You know, Orton and Ryder get ridiculous pops, but I hear their ratings tank harder than anyone's, so I think that really goes to show the divide in the audience right now (and more importantly, how one side of the divide is bigger than the other, and why WWE is afraid to take risks). -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i55.tinypic.com/21ozujs.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:51:00 PM #377:	Yeah, it really feels like they are sacrificing Punk and Dolph to get the Laurinaitis character over. Just like how they sacrificed all the built up awesome Summer of Punk stuff to get Triple H vs. Kevin Nash over. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650412] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, it really feels like they are sacrificing Punk and Dolph to get the Laurinaitis character over.Just like how they sacrificed all the built up awesome Summer of Punk stuff to get Triple H vs. Kevin Nash over. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 4:52:00 PM #378:	From: JaKyL25 \| #377 Just like how they sacrificed all the built up awesome Summer of Punk stuff to get Triple H vs. Kevin Nash over. Well at least that had a great payoff at TLC! ... -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8436/ldt2r.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650413] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #377Just like how they sacrificed all the built up awesome Summer of Punk stuff to get Triple H vs. Kevin Nash over.Well at least that had a great payoff at TLC!... -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8436/ldt2r.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:53:00 PM #379:	I think the point is that the WWE really does have no idea what it's doing, and only gets by on name recognition and the fact that TNA is doing an even worse job. Every right move is surrounded by 3-4 missteps. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650414] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> I think the point is that the WWE really does have no idea what it's doing, and only gets by on name recognition and the fact that TNA is doing an even worse job.Every right move is surrounded by 3-4 missteps. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:53:00 PM #380:	yeah, punk's main pushes have come as a result of timing more than the rest. punk won the ecw title because of the issues and concerns of drug use. punk won his first belt on the heels of that too. then jeff hardy came for the 2nd and besides being a natural fit, it was proven to be the right one, so he stayed fairly high on the card as a result. 'in case of emergencies, use punk.' summer of punk though was new. at that point they realized they had a star who was doing good merch sales as a heel and getting over. so the promo happened and then they really couldn't let him go. vince does trust punk, but he also has reservations on him too. i do think vince is aware that punk can carry a show though. they're... just not letting him do it. and i don't know why. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650415] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> yeah, punk's main pushes have come as a result of timing more than the rest. punk won the ecw title because of the issues and concerns of drug use. punk won his first belt on the heels of that too. then jeff hardy came for the 2nd and besides being a natural fit, it was proven to be the right one, so he stayed fairly high on the card as a result. 'in case of emergencies, use punk.'summer of punk though was new. at that point they realized they had a star who was doing good merch sales as a heel and getting over. so the promo happened and then they really couldn't let him go. vince does trust punk, but he also has reservations on him too. i do think vince is aware that punk can carry a show though. they're... just not letting him do it. and i don't know why. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/11/12 4:53:00 PM #381:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #378 Well at least that had a great payoff at TLC! ... In all fairness it was better than I expected it to be! -- http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8zwvs.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:650416] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #378Well at least that had a great payoff at TLC!...In all fairness it was better than I expected it to be! -- http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8zwvs.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 01/11/12 4:54:00 PM #382:	Yeah I like how Triple H vs Kevin Nash led to both of them just disappearing. Like, seriously? -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:650417] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I like how Triple H vs Kevin Nash led to both of them just disappearing. Like, seriously? -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:54:00 PM #383:	*Lopen posted...* Yeah I like how Triple H vs Kevin Nash lead to both of them just disappearing. Like, seriously? The payoff is that HHH will now face Undertaker for the second/third time at Wrestlemania. Woo. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650418] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Lopen posted...Yeah I like how Triple H vs Kevin Nash lead to both of them just disappearing. Like, seriously?The payoff is that HHH will now face Undertaker for the second/third time at Wrestlemania.Woo. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:55:00 PM #384:	It really is hilarious in hindsight. Hottest Angle in Years Most anticipated PPV A star is made as Cena is defeated Buyrates up against the general trend of sinking buyrates Media gushing over the new Reality Era Summerslam features an epic rematch that delivers Storyline then suddenly becomes centered around who sent Kevin Nash a text message Punk jobs in the next PPV main event to a corporate executive TIME TO PLAY THE GAME, PHIL BROOKS. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650419] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> It really is hilarious in hindsight.Hottest Angle in YearsMost anticipated PPVA star is made as Cena is defeatedBuyrates up against the general trend of sinking buyratesMedia gushing over the new Reality EraSummerslam features an epic rematch that deliversStoryline then suddenly becomes centered around who sent Kevin Nash a text messagePunk jobs in the next PPV main event to a corporate executiveTIME TO PLAY THE GAME, PHIL BROOKS. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:55:00 PM #385:	to be fair, i'm not sure nash is alive enough to re-appear still. i mean the man botched being pedigreed. he was exhausted. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650420] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> to be fair, i'm not sure nash is alive enough to re-appear still. i mean the man botched being pedigreed. he was exhausted. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:55:00 PM #386:	and i don't know why. Ratings. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650421] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> and i don't know why.Ratings. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 01/11/12 4:55:00 PM #387:	I'd rather see Kevin Nash vs Undertaker at mania <_< -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:650422] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> I'd rather see Kevin Nash vs Undertaker at mania <_< -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 4:56:00 PM #388:	I'd rather have Cena/Taker just cause how ridiculous the whole situation would be. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650423] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> I'd rather have Cena/Taker just cause how ridiculous the whole situation would be. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/11/12 4:57:00 PM #389:	From: Wanglicious \| #385 to be fair, i'm not sure nash is alive enough to re-appear still. i mean the man botched being pedigreed. he was exhausted. That was the greatest moment of that match apart from the big table bump. -- "whats a matter afried i might boobs punch you" - ertyu <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:650424] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #385to be fair, i'm not sure nash is alive enough to re-appear still. i mean the man botched being pedigreed. he was exhausted.That was the greatest moment of that match apart from the big table bump. -- "whats a matter afried i might boobs punch you" - ertyu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 4:58:00 PM #390:	Now Nash wants to fight Warrior. I still give Nash the cardio edge in that one. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650425] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Now Nash wants to fight Warrior.I still give Nash the cardio edge in that one. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 4:59:00 PM #391:	seriously, seriously think a LOT of this could've just been avoided if they had just let punk go over hhh on the 2nd pedigree. you can have the beatdown happen later but the angles would be entirely different in there. they'd have something. oh, and don't forget how we had an actual conspiracy. y'know, the ace character was supposed to be conspiracy master. then.... they forgot it existed with punk. that it existed with the locker room, lawler included. then miz, and finally the original claimant of truth is inexplicitly not talking about conspiracies anymore but pleasing the crowd. i mean i love crazy face truth almost as much as crazy heel truth, but... really? we had a standard angle to move people forward or a hot angle to move a lot AND have ace happily somewhere, and get.... absolutely nothing. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650426] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> seriously, seriously think a LOT of this could've just been avoided if they had just let punk go over hhh on the 2nd pedigree. you can have the beatdown happen later but the angles would be entirely different in there. they'd have something.oh, and don't forget how we had an actual conspiracy.y'know, the ace character was supposed to be conspiracy master. then.... they forgot it existed with punk. that it existed with the locker room, lawler included. then miz, and finally the original claimant of truth is inexplicitly not talking about conspiracies anymore but pleasing the crowd. i mean i love crazy face truth almost as much as crazy heel truth, but... really?we had a standard angle to move people forward or a hot angle to move a lot AND have ace happily somewhere, and get.... absolutely nothing. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 5:00:00 PM #392:	Really, there is no reason that we couldn't have gone straight from Vince being removed from power to Laurinaitis in charge, EXCEPT THAT doing it that way doesn't allow the show to become Triple H centered for 2 months. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650427] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Really, there is no reason that we couldn't have gone straight from Vince being removed from power to Laurinaitis in charge, EXCEPT THAT doing it that way doesn't allow the show to become Triple H centered for 2 months. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 5:00:00 PM #393:	ratings isn't an excuse - if you put punk and ziggler on a mic people will tune in more than they will for the crap they've given us now. merch should also go up for ziggler and both would get a lot of exposure. the two are fantastic on the mic and in the ring. it's ore than they'd have now and it allows them to have better ratings in the future too. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650428] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> ratings isn't an excuse - if you put punk and ziggler on a mic people will tune in more than they will for the crap they've given us now. merch should also go up for ziggler and both would get a lot of exposure. the two are fantastic on the mic and in the ring. it's ore than they'd have now and it allows them to have better ratings in the future too. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 5:01:00 PM #394:	You know what I think the problem was? No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did. Part of the reason why I think The Rock got so huge was cause he got up to the Main Event scene very shortly after Austin won his first title. I honestly wonder if Punk had joined the WWE sooner and rose up to the ME level less than a year after Cena how much different things would be. Especially if there was only one world title. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650429] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> You know what I think the problem was? No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did. Part of the reason why I think The Rock got so huge was cause he got up to the Main Event scene very shortly after Austin won his first title. I honestly wonder if Punk had joined the WWE sooner and rose up to the ME level less than a year after Cena how much different things would be. Especially if there was only one world title. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/11/12 5:01:00 PM #395:	From: TheRock1525 \| #383 The payoff is that HHH will now face Undertaker for the second/third time at Wrestlemania. Woo. Here's the twist, folks. It is a triple threat match. With Kevin Nash. I can't wait. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i51.tinypic.com/24mgemb.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:650430] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #383The payoff is that HHH will now face Undertaker for the second/third time at Wrestlemania.Woo.Here's the twist, folks.It is a triple threat match. With Kevin Nash.I can't wait. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i51.tinypic.com/24mgemb.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 5:01:00 PM #396:	From: TheRock1525 \| #392 No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did. Batista did the exact same night. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650431] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #392No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did.Batista did the exact same night. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/11/12 5:02:00 PM #397:	Batista rose to the top in roughly the same time period. then he turned 40 and bailed to MMA so he could become a jobber. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:650432] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Batista rose to the top in roughly the same time period.then he turned 40 and bailed to MMA so he could become a jobber. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 5:02:00 PM #398:	*Wanglicious posted...* ratings isn't an excuse - if you put punk and ziggler on a mic people will tune in more than they will for the crap they've given us now. merch should also go up for ziggler and both would get a lot of exposure. the two are fantastic on the mic and in the ring. it's ore than they'd have now and it allows them to have better ratings in the future too. That's the point, though: Vince is completely reactionary. Any drop in ratings is met with an immediate reaction more than a well thought-out, well-developed long term plan. He sees a ratings drop with Punk, he reactions immediately. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650433] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Wanglicious posted...ratings isn't an excuse - if you put punk and ziggler on a mic people will tune in more than they will for the crap they've given us now. merch should also go up for ziggler and both would get a lot of exposure. the two are fantastic on the mic and in the ring. it's ore than they'd have now and it allows them to have better ratings in the future too.That's the point, though: Vince is completely reactionary. Any drop in ratings is met with an immediate reaction more than a well thought-out, well-developed long term plan. He sees a ratings drop with Punk, he reactions immediately. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/11/12 5:03:00 PM #399:	*JaKyL25 posted...* From: TheRock1525 \| #392 No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did. Batista did the exact same night. <_< He rose up on a separate brand for a separate title, hence why I said only one title is important to this scenario. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:650434] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...From: TheRock1525 \| #392No one rose up to the top about the same time Cena did.Batista did the exact same night. <_<He rose up on a separate brand for a separate title, hence why I said only one title is important to this scenario. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 01/11/12 5:03:00 PM #400:	Also, Edge happened within a year after Cena. If anything, Punk is kind of filling Edge's role in the company right now as like "the reliable guy right behind Cena and Orton" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:650435] in All-Purpos... [t:61616991]...</cite> <quote> Also, Edge happened within a year after Cena.If anything, Punk is kind of filling Edge's role in the company right now as like "the reliable guy right behind Cena and Orton" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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