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nintendogirl1
12/27/11 3:53:00 PM
#401:


Playing a tight game when you're a scrub feels so good. Carried my team to a 45-17 win.

Destroyed Twitch/Fiddle in bot with Janna.

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Biolizard28
12/27/11 8:07:00 PM
#402:


Support Leona is so good.

And it's my little secret.

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WaIker
12/27/11 9:37:00 PM
#403:


riot games best online technical

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sephsblade
12/28/11 2:04:00 PM
#404:


Do any of the free players this week play remotely like katarina

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Achromatic
12/28/11 2:07:00 PM
#405:


From: sephsblade | #404
Do any of the free players this week play remotely like katarina


*spits out water*

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Biolizard28
12/28/11 2:07:00 PM
#406:


From: sephsblade | #404
Do any of the free players this week play remotely like katarina


Uh

I

What?

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sephsblade
12/28/11 2:10:00 PM
#407:


excellent

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IhatethisCPU
12/28/11 2:57:00 PM
#408:


Irelia's the closest thing to Kat's plaestele this free week. Which is what I assume eou're asking.

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nintendogirl1
12/28/11 2:59:00 PM
#409:


I lost despite playing well because Shaco's mum told him he had to go.

-.-

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WaIker
12/28/11 3:19:00 PM
#410:


I lost a game because I got super farmed as yorick but bot lane and mid gave twitch 15 kills before the 25 minute mark

no word of a lie

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sephsblade
12/28/11 4:31:00 PM
#411:


That was what I was indeed trying to ask instead of what I actually said

thanks!

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Biolizard28
12/28/11 5:33:00 PM
#412:


From: nintendogirl1 | #409
I lost despite playing well because Shaco's mum told him he had to go.

-.-


Shaco players tend to be eight year olds.

And Twitch is an auto ban this week because it only takes one or two idiots to feed him beyond redemption and zero wards to compensate for any beasting he's doing.

That and making sure nobody on your team is allowed to play him.

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TheConductorSix
12/28/11 6:31:00 PM
#413:


Bio do you read these chats?

I discuss Support Leona two to three times a topic.

Start with Charm, 2 pink wards, and a potion.

Run HP Regen Quints and Flat Armor/MR everything else.

Sit in Brush. Get Level 3. Kill stuff.

Pink ward if they ward the brush. Pink ward the river. Turn Bottom into a solo top lane that no one can gank or stop.

Win Games.

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Biolizard28
12/28/11 8:21:00 PM
#414:




This is what happens when Riot run's damage control.

Tamat had to break the news that Viktor would be available later in the week. In the OP, probably in order to avoid downvotes galore, he promised to release a video of him dancing while enabling Viktor at 2k upvotes.

10k upvotes later, he got more people.

All I know is that it's almost time for DOOM.

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Forceful_Dragon
12/29/11 3:04:00 AM
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From: Biolizard28 | #414





Riot may not do everything right, but they still win forever.

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KamikazePotato
12/29/11 10:53:00 AM
#416:


Skarner is ridiculous. HOW has this guy not gotten a nerf. There is no point of the game that he doesn't excel at.

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Peace___Frog
12/29/11 11:44:00 AM
#417:


It's funny cause after his first week a lot of people realized how weak he was with everything and the buffs they gave him weren't huge, they were just enough to make him competitive. He's a strong jungler and ganker, and he's got a decently flexible build, I think. I would not call him OP or anything, though. His pushing is subpar, his tower diving doesn't get good til the mid-game, his teamfighting is ok but nothing insane.

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Peace___Frog
12/29/11 12:48:00 PM
#418:


snoopeh is now streaming jungle ashe


I was going to go do something productive, but this sounds too good to miss

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Gwindor
12/29/11 12:58:00 PM
#419:


got a link? that sounds pretty interesting.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:27:00 PM
#420:


From: Peace___Frog | #417
It's funny cause after his first week a lot of people realized how weak he was with everything and the buffs they gave him weren't huge, they were just enough to make him competitive. He's a strong jungler and ganker, and he's got a decently flexible build, I think. I would not call him OP or anything, though. His pushing is subpar, his tower diving doesn't get good til the mid-game, his teamfighting is ok but nothing insane.


Uhhhh no

His pushing is insane. All three of his main skills lend to insane pushing as well as sustain. His diving is strong because of his shield, and especially after he gets his ult it becomes insane.

His clear time is second to none, and he does it with health to spare. He quite literally has no weaknesses as a jungler.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:31:00 PM
#421:


Skarner is fine until they nerf Udyr. He's a much bigger issue if your talking about strong junglers and honestly their are plenty of strong junglers right now.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:35:00 PM
#422:


Udyr, Maokai, Shyvana, Couple others that I can't quite remember offhand. (Wanna say Riven is one of them) All clear faster then Skarner. Udyr is pretty much a better version of Skarner in a lot of ways pre level 6 when Skarner gets better ganks and in team fights Skarner is pretty badass. But saying he's perfect when Udyr exists says you don't know that much.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:36:00 PM
#423:


Shyv clears faster but is weak overall. The rest do not. Skarner, Udyr, and Lee Sin are currently the most insane junglers right now, and need nerfs.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:39:00 PM
#424:


And Udyr has better ganks pre-6, but Skarner's are still insane while being FAR better than Udyr post-6.

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Biolizard28
12/29/11 1:39:00 PM
#425:


Riven absolutely does not clear faster than Skarner.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:40:00 PM
#426:


Maokai is the fastest jungler by a lot actually. >_> He has been for a while. Shaco has a pretty quick clear time too. Skarner is definitely strong but Udyr is pretty much a better version of him till late game. Hell Skarner didn't even really get picked at all in the last major tournament. He got banned like 3 times and picked once. Udyr and Maokai were picked quite a bit except when they were banned. At the China tournament SV basically solo'd a game with Udyr. Skarner might be the 2nd best jungler. But really your hate is directed to the wrong character.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:41:00 PM
#427:


From: SythaWarrior | #426
Maokai is the fastest jungler by a lot actually. >_> He has been for a while. Shaco has a pretty quick clear time too. Skarner is definitely strong but Udyr is pretty much a better version of him till late game. Hell Skarner didn't even really get picked at all in the last major tournament. He got banned like 3 times and picked once. Udyr and Maokai were picked quite a bit except when they were banned. At the China tournament SV basically solo'd a game with Udyr. Skarner might be the 2nd best jungler. But really your hate is directed to the wrong character.


It's not really hate, I love and main Skarner, but he along with Lee Sin and Udyr need nerfs. They're incredibly OP with this new jungle.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:41:00 PM
#428:


Riven was more then 10 seconds faster then Skarner in the old jungle. I see no reason why that would change in the new jungle.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:42:00 PM
#429:


From: SythaWarrior | #428
Riven was more then 10 seconds faster then Skarner in the old jungle. I see no reason why that would change in the new jungle.


Skarner has stronger AOE than Riven does. That's why.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:46:00 PM
#430:


Have you played either? Because I play both characters all the time in the jungle and Riven is faster then Skarner. Skarner is better then her. But Riven is definitely faster due to the higher dps, and better movement speed. She also jungles perfectly safe after level 4. Shrug. Skarner levels safe at level 1 and has better ganks. Speed isn't everything but don't try and suggest that Skarner is faster then pretty much everyone. Because he is merely in the upper half for speed. His counter jungling due to how damn tanky he naturally is and how retarded his ability to run away is are bigger issues.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 1:47:00 PM
#431:


*Shrugs* Can't stop you from being wrong.

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Biolizard28
12/29/11 1:53:00 PM
#432:


Viktor is basically like Swain, btw.

If you build him as a burst caster, you're doing it wrong.

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SythaWarrior
12/29/11 1:53:00 PM
#433:


How am I wrong? Just checked Stonewalls jungle clear times with no leash. Skarner is same speed as Riven now. Exactly the same speed. With a leash I think Riven gets a better time then Skarner because DPS and movement speed.

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Luis_Sera89
12/29/11 2:05:00 PM
#434:


I've heard nothing but bad things about Viktor so far. Apparently he doesn't offer anything other AP carries don't do better, and his forced item sucks for the cost. He has a good ult though.

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Justin_Crossing
12/29/11 2:30:00 PM
#435:


yeah i watched the spotlight and was like "wow he's so awful"

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Biolizard28
12/29/11 2:38:00 PM
#436:


Yeah well, your mother.

If anyone's saying Viktor sucks, it's because they're using the Death augment. It's cost inefficient as f*** and only helps his DPS slightly.

Power or Gravity is where it's at.

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Biolizard28
12/29/11 9:19:00 PM
#437:


Next time someone picks support Lux I dodge

Regular Lux players are bad enough

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OctilIery
12/29/11 10:26:00 PM
#438:


Good god

3/21 at 20 minutes with a trolling Yi that forced me(as Cho) out of top because he'd fed Bot too much.

Surrender vote goes 1/4 and somehow I'd be in the wrong for leaving then and there? Riot is goddamn awful.

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Lopen
12/29/11 10:31:00 PM
#439:


If you'd lost an inhibitor yeah you'd be justified in surrendering. Otherwise I've seen worse scores turn around.

Given that you started the surrender vote though I'd guess you were actually the worst player and blaming the Yi because he was the second worst.

At least that's what I observe as the usual in games where only one player wants to surrender.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 10:40:00 PM
#440:


From: Lopen | #439
If you'd lost an inhibitor yeah you'd be justified in surrendering. Otherwise I've seen worse scores turn around.

Given that you started the surrender vote though I'd guess you were actually the worst player and blaming the Yi because he was the second worst.

At least that's what I observe as the usual in games where only one player wants to surrender.


I was Cho, 1/2 at the time(second best was 1/4) with somewhere around 120 CS. I was by and far the best player there.

We were down two turrets, and yes, we could have won it, but at that point the game stops being fun and becomes tryhard central. There is no excuse for me being forced to play that.

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Lopen
12/29/11 10:55:00 PM
#441:


Your score being less bad is pretty irrelevant as Cho when it comes to whether you were playing well or not. Particularly because of his role and how he works. If you were a squishy carry I might be more inclined to believe you no questions asked, but yeah... just thinking about this.

Causes for high CS:
- stupidly farming when your team needs you

Causes for high K/D ratio:
- not actually playing properly as a tank-- no initiating or taking point
- not being present for teamfights/ganks when you should've been (coincides with high CS)
- running away during teamfights before you need to so your higher DPS teammates take damage prematurely and your team loses teamfights as a result
- your team gets crushed in a teamfight and you survive by merit of being ignored/having high hp

I'm not saying you necessarily were a big part of the reason your team lost but you sound a lot like a "vintage bad pub" with the way you're describing the events of the game and by what you consider to be the indicator of how well you were playing.

I would at least consider that you may have been able to play better there and try to improve what you screwed up. Obviously there are times you get a bad beat with pubs but complaining about it doesn't serve much purpose.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 11:06:00 PM
#442:


Oh, so you just have no idea what you're talking about then. k. I didn't screw up, and any mindless allegations you have there are irrelevant and pointless. Riot is still terrible, end of story.

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Lopen
12/29/11 11:09:00 PM
#443:


Well that reaction to any possible criticism certainly reinforces my perception of you being "typical bad pub" I'll say that much.

I'm just saying if your first defense to doing well is KDA and CS as a non-carry and the KDA is still negative it's hard to think you have a firm grasp on what good play actually is.

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OctilIery
12/29/11 11:13:00 PM
#444:


From: Lopen | #443
Well that reaction to any possible criticism certainly reinforces my perception of you being "typical bad pub" I'll say that much.


Again, because you have no idea what you talk about.

I'm just saying if your first defense to doing well is KDA and CS as a non-carry and the KDA is still negative it's hard to think you have a firm grasp on what good play actually is.


No, I have a plenty good grasp. Unlike you, I'm not an idiot and understand that 1/2 is a fine score for laning, especially when being constantly harassed by a fed Skarner, when there had been no teamfights going on.

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KamikazePotato
12/29/11 11:14:00 PM
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Heh

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Lopen
12/29/11 11:14:00 PM
#446:


20 minute laning phase with two turrets down huh

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Lopen
12/29/11 11:20:00 PM
#447:


And uh, if you didn't get it, my main point of skepticism is that you're bringing up your relative KDA as evidence that you were doing well at all. I'm not saying 1/2 is a bad score for anyone on its own-- I'm saying that it says nothing about how well you were playing given that you were using Cho'gath.

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Justin_Crossing
12/29/11 11:32:00 PM
#448:


i love troll solo top nunus

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KamikazePotato
12/30/11 12:32:00 AM
#449:


Ever since I picked up Skarner I haven't lost a game with him. It's only been an 8 game streak but man. And Udyr is supposed to be better? I should check him out.

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Azp2k32
12/30/11 1:01:00 AM
#450:


Skarner is pretty ridiculous. Went 16/6/15 with him in one of my first games as him... granted, I'm only level 15 but that was just ridiculously easy as someone inexperienced with the character. Definitely need to grind out some IP for him.

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