Board 8 > Why can't people take criticism anymore?

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wg64Z 11/02/11 10:47:00 AM #102:	Okay, who is this person you all keep speaking of? Link and/or summary plz. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494604] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Okay, who is this person you all keep speaking of? Link and/or summary plz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 10:47:00 AM #103:	Dangit foolmo, stop giving away H's tricks. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494605] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Dangit foolmo, stop giving away H's tricks. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolmor0n 11/02/11 10:48:00 AM #104:	From: SantaRPG \| #101 I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states, I've had girls who have cut all contact with me off and request their friends to tell me to leave them alone. I've had girls write awful things about me in a blog and then email me a link. Heck in high school I had a girl request to change lunch periods to get away from me. Awesome -- _foolmo_ mobile computer <cite>foolmor0n posted [p:494606] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: SantaRPG \| #101I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states, I've had girls who have cut all contact with me off and request their friends to tell me to leave them alone. I've had girls write awful things about me in a blog and then email me a link. Heck in high school I had a girl request to change lunch periods to get away from me.Awesome -- _foolmo_mobile computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 11/02/11 10:49:00 AM #105:	Time for Jaffar to swoop in with the correct answer. It's because people are softies and raised in an environment where everyone wins, where they don't know what losing even means until they can't hold a job. It stems from pluralism. How could you insult what someone does or how they do it? It's their way, so it's perfectly valid for them and you have no right to criticize them. Everyone is right and everyone wins. Let's not pretend that this attitude is unique to the modern, everyone-wins era. People have always resented taking criticism, and understandably so to a degree. Our current education model has certainly fostered this attitude, however, well beyond a healthy degree. -- Houston Texans: 5-3 If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:494607] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Time for Jaffar to swoop in with the correct answer.It's because people are softies and raised in an environment where everyone wins, where they don't know what losing even means until they can't hold a job.It stems from pluralism. How could you insult what someone does or how they do it? It's their way, so it's perfectly valid for them and you have no right to criticize them. Everyone is right and everyone wins.Let's not pretend that this attitude is unique to the modern, everyone-wins era. People have always resented taking criticism, and understandably so to a degree. Our current education model has certainly fostered this attitude, however, well beyond a healthy degree. -- Houston Texans: 5-3If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheConductorSix 11/02/11 10:50:00 AM #106:	Why disagree with what's proven to work. That's what irks me the most. You argue like women in that you go off pure emotion and how you feel instead of actual logic and facts. If you ever actually put the things I or Roissy say to use you'll see how correct they are. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch <cite>TheConductorSix posted [p:494608] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Why disagree with what's proven to work. That's what irks me the most. You argue like women in that you go off pure emotion and how you feel instead of actual logic and facts. If you ever actually put the things I or Roissy say to use you'll see how correct they are. -- Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolmor0n 11/02/11 10:50:00 AM #107:	From: ExThaNemesis \| #103 Dangit foolmo, stop giving away H's tricks. That's the best part. This is the kind of stuff that is literally impossible to "give away", which is why it was so annoying when realo was spamming everything about roissy for those few weeks. You won't understand unless you actually want to, and at that point, you don't need someone to explain it to you. -- _foolmo_ mobile computer <cite>foolmor0n posted [p:494609] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: ExThaNemesis \| #103Dangit foolmo, stop giving away H's tricks.That's the best part. This is the kind of stuff that is literally impossible to "give away", which is why it was so annoying when realo was spamming everything about roissy for those few weeks. You won't understand unless you actually want to, and at that point, you don't need someone to explain it to you. -- _foolmo_mobile computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 10:51:00 AM #108:	From: wg64Z \| #102 Okay, who is this person you all keep speaking of? Link and/or summary plz. http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494610] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: wg64Z \| #102Okay, who is this person you all keep speaking of? Link and/or summary plz.http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 11/02/11 10:52:00 AM #109:	Why disagree with what's proven to work. Because some people think there's more important stuff in life than getting into a girl's pants. People like SantaRPG have already put this far more eloquently than I just did. It's clear that you don't want to listen. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:494611] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Why disagree with what's proven to work.Because some people think there's more important stuff in life than getting into a girl's pants.People like SantaRPG have already put this far more eloquently than I just did. It's clear that you don't want to listen. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheKoolAidShoto 11/02/11 10:52:00 AM #110:	Oh, is this a Roissy thread again? I thought this was gonna be something interesting and we could discuss the foundations of social interactions and how negativity effects all of us, but uh...eh -- http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/NathanDrake90.png <cite>TheKoolAidShoto posted [p:494612] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Oh, is this a Roissy thread again? I thought this was gonna be something interesting and we could discuss the foundations of social interactions and how negativity effects all of us, but uh...eh -- http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/NathanDrake90.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 10:52:00 AM #111:	Okay Santa, if these are all different girls then you are CLEARLY doing something wrong, this isn't just bad luck. If a girl treats me like *** when I'm just chatting with her one on one* Also those instances don't really constitute "chatting one on one." I was under the impression that girls just start out talking to you treating you like ** which is why I figured you were just misinterpretting. This is a some whole other level of . Wtf did you say/do to these women?? <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494613] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Okay Santa, if these are all different girls then you are CLEARLY doing something wrong, this isn't just bad luck. If a girl treats me like when I'm just chatting with her one on oneAlso those instances don't really constitute "chatting one on one." I was under the impression that girls just start out talking to you treating you like which is why I figured you were just misinterpretting. This is a some whole other level of **. Wtf did you say/do to these women?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecTrevelyan006 11/02/11 10:57:00 AM #113:	From: SantaRPG \| #101 I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states, I've had girls who have cut all contact with me off and request their friends to tell me to leave them alone. I've had girls write awful things about me in a blog and then email me a link. Heck in high school I had a girl request to change lunch periods to get away from me. There was nothing wrong with these girls, (in fact a majority of them became good friends with me later.) But their inability to process and recognize what I was made them not worth it. And honestly, once I got to know these girls I slowly learned that dating them would have been a disaster for one reason or another. I would say chemistry is really where I've found success with women. If you and a female are right for each other, you're not going to get shot down, or ignored. You're going to be treated like a human being, and really that's what I'm after in life. This is a fantastic post. I love how prevalent modern society has made the idea of "I have had tons of people who dislike me and who want to avoid me, clearly the problem is with THEM". -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpguz.jpg <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:494615] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: SantaRPG \| #101I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states, I've had girls who have cut all contact with me off and request their friends to tell me to leave them alone. I've had girls write awful things about me in a blog and then email me a link. Heck in high school I had a girl request to change lunch periods to get away from me. There was nothing wrong with these girls, (in fact a majority of them became good friends with me later.) But their inability to process and recognize what I was made them not worth it. And honestly, once I got to know these girls I slowly learned that dating them would have been a disaster for one reason or another. I would say chemistry is really where I've found success with women. If you and a female are right for each other, you're not going to get shot down, or ignored. You're going to be treated like a human being, and really that's what I'm after in life.This is a fantastic post. I love how prevalent modern society has made the idea of "I have had tons of people who dislike me and who want to avoid me, clearly the problem is with THEM". -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpguz.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:00:00 AM #114:	*foolmor0n posted...* You know, I never realized how genius Roissy is, really. His entire philosphy is based around relative value of men to women, so why is he putting out all his "secrets" and methods? Wouldn't that just empower other men and therefore devalue himself? So what he does is wrap all his lessons in this radical rhetoric like that alpha quiz that santa mentioned, which, unless you are an intelligent and tolerant and open-minded person who knows how to extract the core idea from the superficial words, you will be offended and repelled. To be able to actively filter his audience this way, so that his methods aren't emulated and ruined by those who don't truly understand the philosophy is very impressive. Or, possibly, he's just a jerkhole, and his approach appeals to other jerkholes. I think you give him a little more credit than he deserves. I'm sure his methods "work," but you have to take into consideration that the type of person who would actually use these methods are the same type of people who have a stranglehold on their conscience. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494616] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> foolmor0n posted...You know, I never realized how genius Roissy is, really.His entire philosphy is based around relative value of men to women, so why is he putting out all his "secrets" and methods? Wouldn't that just empower other men and therefore devalue himself?So what he does is wrap all his lessons in this radical rhetoric like that alpha quiz that santa mentioned, which, unless you are an intelligent and tolerant and open-minded person who knows how to extract the core idea from the superficial words, you will be offended and repelled. To be able to actively filter his audience this way, so that his methods aren't emulated and ruined by those who don't truly understand the philosophy is very impressive.Or, possibly, he's just a jerkhole, and his approach appeals to other jerkholes.I think you give him a little more credit than he deserves. I'm sure his methods "work," but you have to take into consideration that the type of person who would actually use these methods are the same type of people who have a stranglehold on their conscience. -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:01:00 AM #116:	Yeah Santa we REALLY need to know the backstory on these instances. Also, after reading just the first post of this Chateau Heartiste or w/e, I already know this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I've done the ignoring thing, and I've tried to convince my shyer friends to do it, but they all think it's dumb and start jumping through the hoops. Which eventually leads the girl to someone less desperate. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494618] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Yeah Santa we REALLY need to know the backstory on these instances.Also, after reading just the first post of this Chateau Heartiste or w/e, I already know this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I've done the ignoring thing, and I've tried to convince my shyer friends to do it, but they all think it's dumb and start jumping through the hoops. Which eventually leads the girl to someone less desperate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/02/11 11:04:00 AM #117:	From: BoshStrikesBack \| #105 Time for Jaffar to swoop in with the correct answer. That would be a first. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:494619] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: BoshStrikesBack \| #105Time for Jaffar to swoop in with the correct answer.That would be a first. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?""I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:05:00 AM #118:	*wg64Z posted...* Yeah Santa we REALLY need to know the backstory on these instances. Also, after reading just the first post of this Chateau Heartiste or w/e, I already know this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I've done the ignoring thing, and I've tried to convince my shyer friends to do it, but they all think it's dumb and start jumping through the hoops. Which eventually leads the girl to someone less desperate. Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494620] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> wg64Z posted...Yeah Santa we REALLY need to know the backstory on these instances.Also, after reading just the first post of this Chateau Heartiste or w/e, I already know this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I've done the ignoring thing, and I've tried to convince my shyer friends to do it, but they all think it's dumb and start jumping through the hoops. Which eventually leads the girl to someone less desperate.Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery. -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 11/02/11 11:07:00 AM #120:	tbh about that post, using high school/college aged girls as an example is pretty...well...questionable. To avoid sound sexist, high school boys would be just as big of a disaster. The reason why people cant take criticism is everything to do with the everyone wins mentality thats begun since late generation x/early generation y (early/mid 80s births). Its everywhere in society. People market to it because its what sells. A great gaming example is how battle.net for SC2 doesnt show losses until masters league. It kinda makes sense, but at the same time its babying the lower leagues and will only cause a (maybe ever so slightly) bigger gap between the best and the worst. Since the lower leagues will only notice their 18 wins, and not their 73 losses. People dont want to take the "criticism" of seeing losses in their profile. A personal example has to do with me that i remember very well was in my freshman year of college. My second semester i got 4 As and 1 B. I told my parents, and my dad just says "Whatd you get the B in?". I didnt yell and cry about his comments, but i was kinda saddened by the fact that it was the first thing he mentioned. Looking back on it, it was because im a generation Yer (born in 1987), and i grew up with that everyone wins mentality. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:494622] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> tbh about that post, using high school/college aged girls as an example is pretty...well...questionable. To avoid sound sexist, high school boys would be just as big of a disaster.The reason why people cant take criticism is everything to do with the everyone wins mentality thats begun since late generation x/early generation y (early/mid 80s births). Its everywhere in society. People market to it because its what sells. A great gaming example is how battle.net for SC2 doesnt show losses until masters league. It kinda makes sense, but at the same time its babying the lower leagues and will only cause a (maybe ever so slightly) bigger gap between the best and the worst. Since the lower leagues will only notice their 18 wins, and not their 73 losses. People dont want to take the "criticism" of seeing losses in their profile.A personal example has to do with me that i remember very well was in my freshman year of college. My second semester i got 4 As and 1 B. I told my parents, and my dad just says "Whatd you get the B in?". I didnt yell and cry about his comments, but i was kinda saddened by the fact that it was the first thing he mentioned. Looking back on it, it was because im a generation Yer (born in 1987), and i grew up with that everyone wins mentality. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:07:00 AM #121:	I was pretty much "Being Santa." I have no idea what that means. Remember though that most of these girls ended up being my best friends once they kind of settled into the idea of who I was, and found out I wasn't some sort of crazy creep. Completely and totally irrelevant. Unless you're saying that the majority of your best friends are girls. That could have some substance. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494623] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> I was pretty much "Being Santa."I have no idea what that means.Remember though that most of these girls ended up being my best friends once they kind of settled into the idea of who I was, and found out I wasn't some sort of crazy creep.Completely and totally irrelevant. Unless you're saying that the majority of your best friends are girls. That could have some substance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IngmarBirdman 11/02/11 11:09:00 AM #122:	you have to take into consideration that the type of person who would actually use these methods are the same type of people who have a stranglehold on their conscience. This includes any man who has observed first-hand how amoral most women are. -- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL." -BlAcK TuRtLe <cite>IngmarBirdman posted [p:494624] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> you have to take into consideration that the type of person who would actually use these methods are the same type of people who have a stranglehold on their conscience.This includes any man who has observed first-hand how amoral most women are. -- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL."-BlAcK TuRtLe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 11:10:00 AM #123:	From: Greyfeld \| #118 Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery. Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494625] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: Greyfeld \| #118Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery.Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 11/02/11 11:10:00 AM #124:	From: SantaRPG \| #101 I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states From: SantaRPG \| #119 The girl who switched lunch periods with me was my best friend until she moved to new mexico last year. -- Gamefaqs' #1 Testicle Bettor: Proud owner of many testes http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6553/alec.png <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:494626] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: SantaRPG \| #101I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different statesFrom: SantaRPG \| #119The girl who switched lunch periods with me was my best friend until she moved to new mexico last year. -- Gamefaqs' #1 Testicle Bettor: Proud owner of many testeshttp://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6553/alec.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 11:11:00 AM #125:	From: SantaRPG \| #101I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different states From: SantaRPG \| #119The girl who switched lunch periods with me was my best friend until she moved to new mexico last year. oh jesus -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494627] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: SantaRPG \| #101I've had girls walk away from me mid-sentence, I've had girls pretend to move to different statesFrom: SantaRPG \| #119The girl who switched lunch periods with me was my best friend until she moved to new mexico last year.oh jesus -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:11:00 AM #126:	It kinda makes sense, but at the same time its babying the lower leagues and will only cause a (maybe ever so slightly) bigger gap between the best and the worst. Since the lower leagues will only notice their 18 wins, and not their 73 losses. People dont want to take the "criticism" of seeing losses in their profile. True, but Blizzard just does it for the $$$. If they retain more players, more people buy the expansions. A better example would be WoW, holy crap. Go from Vanilla to present day WoW and you'll notice everything you had to do for yourself is pretty much completely automated now. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494628] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> It kinda makes sense, but at the same time its babying the lower leagues and will only cause a (maybe ever so slightly) bigger gap between the best and the worst. Since the lower leagues will only notice their 18 wins, and not their 73 losses. People dont want to take the "criticism" of seeing losses in their profile.True, but Blizzard just does it for the $$$. If they retain more players, more people buy the expansions. A better example would be WoW, holy crap. Go from Vanilla to present day WoW and you'll notice everything you had to do for yourself is pretty much completely automated now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 11/02/11 11:14:00 AM #128:	tag Lockes made the most sensible post so far -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:494630] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> tagLockes made the most sensible post so far -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:15:00 AM #129:	*Metal_DK posted...* A personal example has to do with me that i remember very well was in my freshman year of college. My second semester i got 4 As and 1 B. I told my parents, and my dad just says "Whatd you get the B in?". I didnt yell and cry about his comments, but i was kinda saddened by the fact that it was the first thing he mentioned. Looking back on it, it was because im a generation Yer (born in 1987), and i grew up with that everyone wins mentality. This has absolutely zilch to do with being coddled and the supposed "everybody wins mentality" (which I think is a load of garbage somebody on this board made up, but that's completely not the point I'm trying to make atm). It has to do with the fact that you came home with fantastic grades, and your father, instead of showing some sort of pride in his son's work, honed in on the one single, microscopic blip. If you could have done better in that class, fine, whatever, do better. But having your achievements completely glossed over is ridiculous. It's the whole "honey and vinegar" story. It sends a message of "your best isn't good enough," which is a horrible message to send to your children. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494631] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Metal_DK posted...A personal example has to do with me that i remember very well was in my freshman year of college. My second semester i got 4 As and 1 B. I told my parents, and my dad just says "Whatd you get the B in?". I didnt yell and cry about his comments, but i was kinda saddened by the fact that it was the first thing he mentioned. Looking back on it, it was because im a generation Yer (born in 1987), and i grew up with that everyone wins mentality.This has absolutely zilch to do with being coddled and the supposed "everybody wins mentality" (which I think is a load of garbage somebody on this board made up, but that's completely not the point I'm trying to make atm). It has to do with the fact that you came home with fantastic grades, and your father, instead of showing some sort of pride in his son's work, honed in on the one single, microscopic blip.If you could have done better in that class, fine, whatever, do better. But having your achievements completely glossed over is ridiculous. It's the whole "honey and vinegar" story. It sends a message of "your best isn't good enough," which is a horrible message to send to your children. -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:17:00 AM #130:	*ExThaNemesis posted...* From: Greyfeld \| #118 Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery. Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women. I don't give a rat's ass about being with the most attractive women. That's my point. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494632] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> ExThaNemesis posted...From: Greyfeld \| #118Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery.Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women.I don't give a rat's ass about being with the most attractive women. That's my point. -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 11/02/11 11:19:00 AM #131:	Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women. in high school and early college aged women, i agree. The loudest, most pompous, and self promoting individual will be with the most women. But around the end of college, that starts to change. An "alpha male" will usually be someone with a good job, good health, and prioritizes having (and keeping) a job and having money. The "tatted up" guy she met at a bar because he was on tour with his dying indie band starts to be less attractive when she gets her 40k/year career started and that guy is still working the backroom during the day and living with his parents or 3 roommates. Of course due to the economic struggles (especially how this recession hit men way harder than women), men and women are staying in this "extended teen/early 20s" mentality a bit longer. The belief that women mature faster than men is a huge myth. Physically, women obviously mature a few years before men. Some social aspects women in general mature faster then men. But in many social aspects men do mature faster. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:494633] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women.in high school and early college aged women, i agree. The loudest, most pompous, and self promoting individual will be with the most women.But around the end of college, that starts to change. An "alpha male" will usually be someone with a good job, good health, and prioritizes having (and keeping) a job and having money. The "tatted up" guy she met at a bar because he was on tour with his dying indie band starts to be less attractive when she gets her 40k/year career started and that guy is still working the backroom during the day and living with his parents or 3 roommates. Of course due to the economic struggles (especially how this recession hit men way harder than women), men and women are staying in this "extended teen/early 20s" mentality a bit longer.The belief that women mature faster than men is a huge myth. Physically, women obviously mature a few years before men. Some social aspects women in general mature faster then men. But in many social aspects men do mature faster. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhoopsyDaisy 11/02/11 11:19:00 AM #132:	Me neither, because I'm gay. So I guess you're gay too? That's cool. -- senorhousemouse <cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted [p:494634] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Me neither, because I'm gay. So I guess you're gay too? That's cool. -- senorhousemouse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 11/02/11 11:21:00 AM #133:	This has absolutely zilch to do with being coddled and the supposed "everybody wins mentality" (which I think is a load of garbage somebody on this board made up, but that's completely not the point I'm trying to make atm). It has to do with the fact that you came home with fantastic grades, and your father, instead of showing some sort of pride in his son's work, honed in on the one single, microscopic blip. If you could have done better in that class, fine, whatever, do better. But having your achievements completely glossed over is ridiculous. It's the whole "honey and vinegar" story. It sends a message of "your best isn't good enough," which is a horrible message to send to your children. it may not have to do entirely with the everybody wins mentality, but to say it has "absolutely zilch" is beyond ridiculous. And the everybody wins mentality does exist. Again, look at SC2's big change a few months ago. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:494635] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> This has absolutely zilch to do with being coddled and the supposed "everybody wins mentality" (which I think is a load of garbage somebody on this board made up, but that's completely not the point I'm trying to make atm). It has to do with the fact that you came home with fantastic grades, and your father, instead of showing some sort of pride in his son's work, honed in on the one single, microscopic blip.If you could have done better in that class, fine, whatever, do better. But having your achievements completely glossed over is ridiculous. It's the whole "honey and vinegar" story. It sends a message of "your best isn't good enough," which is a horrible message to send to your children.it may not have to do entirely with the everybody wins mentality, but to say it has "absolutely zilch" is beyond ridiculous.And the everybody wins mentality does exist. Again, look at SC2's big change a few months ago. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:22:00 AM #134:	Also, I notice it hasn't been brought up at all because maybe people are scared to hear it but. You NEED to make an obvious attempt to make yourself more attractice. Don't wear hoodies, gamer T-shirts or camo shorts. Stay in healthy shape, do NOT were cologne unless you're going to an atmosphere that calls for it, or use it very sparingly, wrists and neck that's it. As much as you're eyeing up and grading every chick in the room, they do it much faster than we do, mostly based on Hair/Face/Clothes. Then once you pass that test they may or may not make an effort to talk to you. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494636] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Also, I notice it hasn't been brought up at all because maybe people are scared to hear it but.You NEED to make an obvious attempt to make yourself more attractice. Don't wear hoodies, gamer T-shirts or camo shorts. Stay in healthy shape, do NOT were cologne unless you're going to an atmosphere that calls for it, or use it very sparingly, wrists and neck that's it. As much as you're eyeing up and grading every chick in the room, they do it much faster than we do, mostly based on Hair/Face/Clothes. Then once you pass that test they may or may not make an effort to talk to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 11/02/11 11:22:00 AM #135:	From: Metal_DK \| #131 The belief that women mature faster than men is a huge myth. Physically, women obviously mature a few years before men. Some social aspects women in general mature faster then men. But in many social aspects men do mature faster. This is partially the fault of a lot of parents. A girl will most likely be spoiled and 'protected from the real world' much more than a boy in modern society. -- http://img.imgcake.com/wappydoggif2gifzy.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:494637] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: Metal_DK \| #131The belief that women mature faster than men is a huge myth. Physically, women obviously mature a few years before men. Some social aspects women in general mature faster then men. But in many social aspects men do mature faster.This is partially the fault of a lot of parents. A girl will most likely be spoiled and 'protected from the real world' much more than a boy in modern society. -- http://img.imgcake.com/wappydoggif2gifzy.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BoshStrikesBack 11/02/11 11:23:00 AM #137:	I don't give a rat's ass about being with the most attractive women. That's my point. To get the semi-attractive women, you should aim for the most attractive women. What you're saying is the equivalent of believing that you shouldn't run as fast as you can in a race because you're "not an Olympic athlete." Obviously; but even if you do try as hard as you can, chances are you'll still be relatively slow. Same with women: try to be as suave and "alpha" (although I hate that word) as you can for now, because it'll probably be enough only for mid-tier girls anyway. -- Houston Texans: 5-3 If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:494639] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> I don't give a rat's ass about being with the most attractive women. That's my point.To get the semi-attractive women, you should aim for the most attractive women. What you're saying is the equivalent of believing that you shouldn't run as fast as you can in a race because you're "not an Olympic athlete." Obviously; but even if you do try as hard as you can, chances are you'll still be relatively slow. Same with women: try to be as suave and "alpha" (although I hate that word) as you can for now, because it'll probably be enough only for mid-tier girls anyway. -- Houston Texans: 5-3If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BoshStrikesBack 11/02/11 11:26:00 AM #139:	The "tatted up" guy she met at a bar because he was on tour with his dying indie band starts to be less attractive when she gets her 40k/year career started and that guy is still working the backroom during the day and living with his parents or 3 roommates. Of course due to the economic struggles (especially how this recession hit men way harder than women), men and women are staying in this "extended teen/early 20s" mentality a bit longer. Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like **? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart? -- Houston Texans: 5-3** If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:494641] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> The "tatted up" guy she met at a bar because he was on tour with his dying indie band starts to be less attractive when she gets her 40k/year career started and that guy is still working the backroom during the day and living with his parents or 3 roommates. Of course due to the economic struggles (especially how this recession hit men way harder than women), men and women are staying in this "extended teen/early 20s" mentality a bit longer.Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like ****? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart? -- Houston Texans: 5-3If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 11:28:00 AM #140:	From: BoshStrikesBack \| #139 Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like ***? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart? Bingo. A tatted up alpha male is still going to have more success with women than a healthy beta with a good job. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong"* - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494642] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: BoshStrikesBack \| #139Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like ****? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart?Bingo.A tatted up alpha male is still going to have more success with women than a healthy beta with a good job. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:28:00 AM #141:	this hasn't been brought up because it has nothing to do with being an alpha or beta. I'm sorry but that right there is the most Beta thing I've read in this thread yet. Are you kidding me? There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494643] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> this hasn't been brought up because it has nothing to do with being an alpha or beta.I'm sorry but that right there is the most Beta thing I've read in this thread yet. Are you kidding me?There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 11/02/11 11:28:00 AM #142:	This is partially the fault of a lot of parents. A girl will most likely be spoiled and 'protected from the real world' much more than a boy in modern society. only through her youth. Once a woman starts hitting around 30 years old, women are much less "attractive" in the eyes of most men. Again, thats starting to change as more options and mentalities are deemed acceptable to society (hell, i think selma hayek is a babe compared to most 25 year olds...and shes over 40). But in general women tend to be most "attractive" around 19 to like 27. Thus once they start hitting that early 30s, they will stop being "babied" a lot and men will honestly start to be "babied" a bit more. I hate to use hollywood as an example, but there is a reason why 28 year old anne hathaway is playing catwoman and the love interest to 38 year old christian bale. http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/ this is one of my favorite websites when talking about relationships and gender. Men have a hard time finding girls when they are in their teens/early 20s. Why? Because women are shallow. However, women have a hard time finding men when they are in their mid 30s and beyond. Why? Because men are shallow. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:494644] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> This is partially the fault of a lot of parents. A girl will most likely be spoiled and 'protected from the real world' much more than a boy in modern society.only through her youth. Once a woman starts hitting around 30 years old, women are much less "attractive" in the eyes of most men. Again, thats starting to change as more options and mentalities are deemed acceptable to society (hell, i think selma hayek is a babe compared to most 25 year olds...and shes over 40).But in general women tend to be most "attractive" around 19 to like 27. Thus once they start hitting that early 30s, they will stop being "babied" a lot and men will honestly start to be "babied" a bit more. I hate to use hollywood as an example, but there is a reason why 28 year old anne hathaway is playing catwoman and the love interest to 38 year old christian bale.http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/this is one of my favorite websites when talking about relationships and gender. Men have a hard time finding girls when they are in their teens/early 20s. Why? Because women are shallow. However, women have a hard time finding men when they are in their mid 30s and beyond. Why? Because men are shallow. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lockes Ragnarok 11/02/11 11:29:00 AM #143:	*VincentLauw posted...* tag Lockes made the most sensible post so far I think so too! -- Let's get drunk and make bad decisions <cite>Lockes Ragnarok posted [p:494645] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> VincentLauw posted...tagLockes made the most sensible post so farI think so too! -- Let's get drunk and make bad decisions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:29:00 AM #144:	*Metal_DK posted...* it may not have to do entirely with the everybody wins mentality, but to say it has "absolutely zilch" is beyond ridiculous. And the everybody wins mentality does exist. Again, look at SC2's big change a few months ago. I mean that your specific example has absolutely nothing to do with that supposed mentality. I've been in that exact same situation in the past (one B on a straight-A report card, and dad jumps on my case for the B), and I didn't think "but I'm supposed to win!!" I thought "But... everything else was straight A's... that's not fair. I was happy because I got good grades, and he can't even say something nice about it." When you genuinely do well, and get crushed regardless, it has nothing to do with feeling you should win. It has to do with being given the recognition you deserve for your effort. When a child does well and the effort isn't recognized, it tends to create psychological issues that cause them to act out. The "Well, I'm going to get yelled at either way," mentality is really common in these situations. Like I said before, having emotions and emotional needs isn't the same thing as needing to be coddled. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494646] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Metal_DK posted...it may not have to do entirely with the everybody wins mentality, but to say it has "absolutely zilch" is beyond ridiculous.And the everybody wins mentality does exist. Again, look at SC2's big change a few months ago.I mean that your specific example has absolutely nothing to do with that supposed mentality. I've been in that exact same situation in the past (one B on a straight-A report card, and dad jumps on my case for the B), and I didn't think "but I'm supposed to win!!" I thought "But... everything else was straight A's... that's not fair. I was happy because I got good grades, and he can't even say something nice about it."When you genuinely do well, and get crushed regardless, it has nothing to do with feeling you should win. It has to do with being given the recognition you deserve for your effort. When a child does well and the effort isn't recognized, it tends to create psychological issues that cause them to act out. The "Well, I'm going to get yelled at either way," mentality is really common in these situations.Like I said before, having emotions and emotional needs isn't the same thing as needing to be coddled. -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 11/02/11 11:30:00 AM #145:	Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like **? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart? Win. I'm glad you put confidence first because that is by far, the #1 thing girls are attracted to. Yes, even to the point of being cocky as hell. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:494647] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Totally oversimplifying things. What women are attracted to has a lot less to do with tats and a lot more to do with how you hold yourself socially. Are you confident? Popular (or, in some cases, distant in an attractive way)? Talented? Easy and fun to talk to? Willing to treat a woman like **? A risk-taker? Successful? Smart?Win. I'm glad you put confidence first because that is by far, the #1 thing girls are attracted to. Yes, even to the point of being cocky as hell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 11/02/11 11:31:00 AM #146:	From: Metal_DK \| #142 women have a hard time finding men when they are in their mid 30s and beyond because they start hitting the wall and their primary resource for attracting mates begins slipping away from them as they age. where-as men only have a hard time finding girls until they learn game. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:494648] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> From: Metal_DK \| #142women have a hard time finding men when they are in their mid 30s and beyondbecause they start hitting the wall and their primary resource for attracting mates begins slipping away from them as they age. where-as men only have a hard time finding girls until they learn game. -- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg"I was wrong" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 11/02/11 11:32:00 AM #148:	There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob. Maybe, but this can easily go overboard. Caring about looking nice is one thing; getting "prettied up" and fretting over small, irrelevant points of appearance is another. It's feminine and it's unattractive in a man. Caring enough is the key, and only enough. -- Houston Texans: 5-3 If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:494650] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob.Maybe, but this can easily go overboard. Caring about looking nice is one thing; getting "prettied up" and fretting over small, irrelevant points of appearance is another. It's feminine and it's unattractive in a man. Caring enough is the key, and only enough. -- Houston Texans: 5-3If you have to put it in one word, it's lackofexecution.-- Ravens H.C. on loss to Jags </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_DK 11/02/11 11:33:00 AM #149:	Bingo. A tatted up alpha male is still going to have more success with women than a healthy beta with a good job. actually, no. Thats incorrect. What im saying is the "alpha male" stops being an alpha male in the eyes of women his age and the man with the good job and looks good/in good health starts BEING the alpha male. Because he has money and looks very presentable. So ya, that tatted up guy at the bar will still get those college aged girls (until he turns in his mid/late 30s and is labeled a creeper by even 18 to 22 crowd), but the man with stability and has long term goals will indeed be more attractive to women. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:494651] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> Bingo.A tatted up alpha male is still going to have more success with women than a healthy beta with a good job.actually, no. Thats incorrect. What im saying is the "alpha male" stops being an alpha male in the eyes of women his age and the man with the good job and looks good/in good health starts BEING the alpha male. Because he has money and looks very presentable.So ya, that tatted up guy at the bar will still get those college aged girls (until he turns in his mid/late 30s and is labeled a creeper by even 18 to 22 crowd), but the man with stability and has long term goals will indeed be more attractive to women. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greyfeld 11/02/11 11:33:00 AM #150:	*wg64Z posted...* this hasn't been brought up because it has nothing to do with being an alpha or beta. I'm sorry but that right there is the most Beta thing I've read in this thread yet. Are you kidding me? There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob. I do not think that word means what you think it means. How can keeping yourself well-groomed be attributed solely to alpha behavior? -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." <cite>Greyfeld posted [p:494652] in Why can... [t:60839537]...</cite> <quote> wg64Z posted...this hasn't been brought up because it has nothing to do with being an alpha or beta.I'm sorry but that right there is the most Beta thing I've read in this thread yet. Are you kidding me?There is a huge gap between trying to be as attractive as possible and not being a slob.I do not think that word means what you think it means.How can keeping yourself well-groomed be attributed solely to alpha behavior? -- PSN - AevioBlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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