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-LusterSoldier-
09/28/11 9:02:00 PM
#351:


Looks like the 15th anniversary of the N64 ended up being the reason why we had yesterday's poll.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/29/11 3:52:00 AM
#352:


AxemRedRanger posted...
Mario Kart 64 vs. Super Mario Galaxy
I...think the latter would win but if you take this result seriously it implies the former has a shot.

Or perhaps that SM64 isn't as strong as we thought.


Mario Kart 64 (2009g) has a strength of 30.80 against Base Link.
Super Mario Galaxy (2009g) has a strength of 22.89 against Base Link.

Mario Kart 64 62.84% 72,421
Super Mario Galaxy 37.16% 42,824
TOTAL VOTES 115,244
Mario Kart 64 wins with 62.84% of the vote!
A 29,597 vote margin of victory.

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charmander6000
09/29/11 11:05:00 AM
#353:


MK64 > TP let's do this.

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Kaxon
09/29/11 3:35:00 PM
#354:


So uh, this sounds like a really terrible contest idea. Maybe not worse than the quotes contest but... that one was canceled, so this looks like it'll be the worst contest to actually happen.

Does anyone know who Jay Solano's rival is? I want to nominate him.

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AxemRedRanger
09/29/11 4:16:00 PM
#355:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Shadow

With an insatiable desire for destruction Jay frequently butts heads with General Barton over the balance between caution and just going out and decimating the opposition.

...Sounds like a rivalry to me!

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Kaxon
09/29/11 5:08:00 PM
#356:


Time to nominate then!

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Team Rocket Elite
09/29/11 5:27:00 PM
#357:


I'm not sure if that's canon. I may have made that up when I made the Wikipedia entry. >_>

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 5:49:00 PM
#358:


Solano's rival is clearly Link.

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red sox 777
09/29/11 5:51:00 PM
#359:


Link/Solano beating Mario/Sonic.

We need to see this happen. The raging will be so delicious.

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 6:08:00 PM
#360:


Clear to whom?

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LinkMarioSamus
09/29/11 6:09:00 PM
#361:


charmander6000 posted...
MK64 > TP let's do this.

Twilight Princess (2009g) has a strength of 38.69 against Base Link.
Mario Kart 64 (2009g) has a strength of 30.80 against Base Link.

Twilight Princess 60.20% 73,414
Mario Kart 64 39.80% 48,544
TOTAL VOTES 121,958
Twilight Princess wins with 60.20% of the vote!
A 24,871 vote margin of victory.

Also why the heck are we still assuming that Super Metroid is equal to SMK? I think it's pretty clear that the entire Metroid series boosted last year. For evidence, the Fall 2010 stats have Metroid Prime doubling Vice City (point is, Prime should still break 60% there, which is pretty impressive considering who beat who in the 2009 contest).

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LinkMarioSamus
09/29/11 6:12:00 PM
#362:


All of us. We just don't want to accept it because last year just so happened to contain the release of the series' worst game (something I absolutely agree with).

I made the mistake of picking HL2 over Prime last year, so I'm not underestimating Metroid anymore.

Metroid Prime (2009g) has a strength of 25.59 against Base Link.
Half-Life 2 (2009g) has a strength of 30.22 against Base Link.

Metroid Prime 42.34% 51,713
Half-Life 2 57.66% 70,426
TOTAL VOTES 122,138
Half-Life 2 wins with 57.66% of the vote! (SO MUCH FOR THAT)
A 18,713 vote margin of victory.

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 6:12:00 PM
#363:


Prime's problem was that we underestimated just how much Paper Mario leeched it.

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PartOfYourWorld
09/29/11 6:13:00 PM
#364:


I'd take Super Metroid over SMK 1v1, and in a more comfortable win than it managed in 4ways, but I don't think that's indicative of a Metroid series boost when there is no reason for it. 4ways just make things weird.

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 6:14:00 PM
#365:


Super Metroid probably wins 1-on-1. It's the safer bet.

But it'd be close enough that I'd be willing to risk taking Mario Kart 64 over either.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/29/11 6:16:00 PM
#366:


LeonhartFour posted...
Prime's problem was that we underestimated just how much Paper Mario leeched it.

Also Paper Mario looked a lot stronger in 2010 than in 2009 as well, but the idea of a Metroid game SFFing a Mario game to such a low level makes zero sense, not to mention they both apparently hurt each other enough to lose to game that they should both wipe the floor with according to the 2010 stats.

I'm blaming KH > Paper Mario SFF, actually, and then I guess you could say that SFFd Paper Mario managed to leech Prime just enough to make it lose to GTA.

Or I guess we could just make off with "Metroid always performs badly against other Nintendo options", but both 2010 contests clearly suggest otherwise (Samus/Zelda and Pokemon DPP/Metroid Fusion).

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ZenOfThunder
09/29/11 6:17:00 PM
#367:


Asked Bacon if he was going to do a Dojo update thing for this contest, he said maybe if things go smoothly

then he hit me with a smiley face

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 6:17:00 PM
#368:


So your complete lack of deductive skills extends beyond NCAA Games, I see.

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LinkMarioSamus
09/29/11 6:18:00 PM
#369:


LeonhartFour posted...
Super Metroid probably wins 1-on-1. It's the safer bet.

But it'd be close enough that I'd be willing to risk taking Mario Kart 64 over either.


Risk? I'd pick MK64 to win that pretty comfortably, as a matter of fact.

MK64 should be comfortably ahead of SMK. We'll assume that MK64 is on Symphonia's level and that SMK is on...maybe Uncharted 2's level.

Super Mario Kart (2009g) has a strength of 22.57 against Base Link.
Mario Kart 64 (2009g) has a strength of 30.80 against Base Link.

Super Mario Kart 36.64% 42,421
Mario Kart 64 63.36% 73,358
TOTAL VOTES 115,780
Mario Kart 64 wins with 63.36% of the vote!
A 30,937 vote margin of victory.

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LeonhartFour
09/29/11 6:19:00 PM
#370:


Stop referencing the 2009 stats.

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AxemRedRanger
09/29/11 6:32:00 PM
#371:


LMS, you missed charmander's point, I think. TP's win over Galaxy in 2010 was smaller than Mario Kart 64's projected victory there.

Come to think of it, it seems to me there's a fairly consistent pattern of Mario Kart giving awesome performances in polls (contest or no) with lots of options but looking just awful 1-on-1. Granted we haven't gotten to see SMK or MK64 1-on-1, though it doesn't sound like anyone would be surprised if they end up weaker there than the data implies.

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Team Rocket Elite
09/29/11 7:58:00 PM
#372:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4475
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3553

The percentage of people who have played Ocarina of Time is pretty close to the percentage of people who have ever owned a N64. I wonder what percentage of the people who said they played OoT played it on a non-N64 console. The OoT poll predates OoT 3D by a few years.

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foxhead84
09/30/11 4:38:00 AM
#373:


well I'm one of them.... had to try it, so I picked a ROM but I never had a N64 (NES -- SNES -- PS -- PS2 -- PS3)
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jonthomson
09/30/11 4:45:00 AM
#374:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
I wonder what percentage of the people who said they played OoT played it on a non-N64 console.

gamecube zelda collector's edition ftw

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pjbasis
09/30/11 5:40:00 AM
#375:


Off the Record is like some kind of DLC right?
It's kinda weird that DLC would be on a poll like this, but there's no way Dead Rising should be that weak.
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LinkMarioSamus
09/30/11 5:55:00 AM
#376:


You know a poll is weakass when Battlefield has 2nd place.

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-LusterSoldier-
09/30/11 6:02:00 AM
#377:


I originally thought that "Off the Record" was some kind of DLC, but I guess it isn't.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/626631-dead-rising-2-off-the-record/data

If that was actually DLC, you would have seen "Dead Rising 2: Off the Record (DLC)" under the "Release Data" section.

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ZenOfThunder
09/30/11 6:04:00 AM
#378:


it's Capcom trying to make some $$$

WHICH THEY WILL

I LOVE FRANK WEST I WOULD TOTALLY REBUY DEAD RISING 2 FOR HIM

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GranzonEx
09/30/11 6:09:00 AM
#379:


It's no surprise Batman is stomping.

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ZenOfThunder
09/30/11 6:14:00 AM
#380:


I voted Spider-Man to counter Batman

he is not faring well

probably because it only took a year for activision to star milking a semi-successful game

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pjbasis
09/30/11 6:17:00 AM
#381:


Only one Nintendo option to vote for so it wasn't even a question.
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Advokaiser
09/30/11 4:10:00 PM
#382:


I would've gladly voted for Forza Motorsport 4 if it wasn't for Kirby's Freakin' Return to Dreamland! =D

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 4:22:00 PM
#383:


So do we want to discuss the impact of Meta Knight being banned from Brawl will have on his overall strength or what?

Lawl

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red sox 777
09/30/11 4:41:00 PM
#384:


Ugh, posted in the wrong topic again! This is the second time in a month after zero in 8 years. I blame the edit button, for letting me know that I can correct this kind of mistake.

I doubt Meta-Knight being banned will have any impact on his strength.

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pjbasis
09/30/11 5:20:00 PM
#385:


He was officially banned?

Wow.
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-LusterSoldier-
09/30/11 9:11:00 PM
#386:


Looks like this site hates Call of Duty now. I mean, Battlefield 3 is beating MW3 in this poll. Not to mention Battlefield is a series that GameFAQs doesn't care about too much, based on these polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2796
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3703
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4001

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charmander6000
09/30/11 9:12:00 PM
#387:


Here's a board 8 bracket based on the nomination tally. I didn't bother to remove potential pairings that SBAllen will remove, but I did follow the rule of a character appearing only once in the bracket. There are a few interesting matches.

Division 1

1) Mega Man X/Zero
16) Kratos/Zeus

8) Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker
9) Dan Hibiki/Sagat

5) Fox McCloud/Wolf O’Donnell
12) Blue Badger/Bad Badger

4) Sora/Riku
13) Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen

3) Conker/The Great Mighty Poo
14) Shirou Emiya/Archer

6) Mew/Mewtwo
11) Zidane Tribal/Kuja

7) Samus Aran/Ridley
10) Captain/CATS

2) Chester/The Bad Guy
15) The Kid/The Guy

Division 2

1) Pokemon Trainer Red/Pokemon Trainer Blue
16) Ezio Auditore da Firenze/Rodrigo Borgia

8) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake
9) Bartz Klauser/Gilgamesh

5) Liu Bei/Cao Cao
12) Arthas/Illidan

4) Mega Man/Proto Man
13) Captain Falcon/Black Shadow

3) Ifrit/Shiva
14) Disease/Madagascar

6) Ramza Beouvle/Delita Hyral
11) Tifa Lockhart/Aerith Gainsborough

7) Cecil Harvey/Kain Highwind
10) Cloud/Sephiroth

2) Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy
15) Crono/Lavos

Division 3

1) Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth
16) Francis York Morgan/The Raincoat Killer

8) Dante/Vergil
9) Vyse Galcian

5) Big Boss (Naked Snake)/The Boss
12) Guybrush Threepwood/LeChuck

4) Tidus/Jecht
13) Yuna/Seymour Guado

3) Tom Nook/Crazy Redd
14) Jill Valentine/Nemesis

6) Alucard/Dracula
11) Ryu/Ken

7) Albert Einstein/Adolf Hitler
10) Meat Boy/ Dr. Fetus

2) Frog/Magus
15) Battler Ushiromiya/Beatrice

Division 4

1) Mario/Sonic
16) Harman Smith/Kun Lan

8) Charizard/Blastoise
9) Kirby/Meta Knight

5) Ike/Black Knight
12) Balthier/Dr. Cid

4) Left Paddle/Right Paddle
13) Little Mac/Mike Tyson

3) Sub-Zero/Scorpion
14) Link/Ganondorf

6) GlaDOS/Wheatley
11) Katherine/Catherine

7) Siegfried/Nightmare
10) Terra Branford/Kefka Palazzo

2) Charles Barkley/Michael Jordan
15) Zangief/Kuma

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AxemRedRanger
09/30/11 9:23:00 PM
#388:


Wow. I don't think I'd take a Call of Duty character over even our worst chokers.

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pjbasis
09/30/11 11:19:00 PM
#389:


Mew/Mewtwo would be awesome.

Why didn't I think of that?
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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 11:20:00 PM
#390:


I'm not sure considering there's been a rally topic going for it for days now!

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AxemRedRanger
09/30/11 11:24:00 PM
#391:


Link to this topic?

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 11:27:00 PM
#392:


whoops looks like swirl let it purge lawl

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SuperAngelo128
09/30/11 11:41:00 PM
#393:


lmao swirldude

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MMXcalibur
10/01/11 12:14:00 AM
#394:


X/Zero is my only interest in this contest, but I'll enter a bracket as always that will be dead wrong by Day 5.

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PartOfYourWorld
10/01/11 9:43:00 AM
#395:


I'm guessing a good chunk of those 20% Battlefield supporters are just anti-CoD votes, but I still didn't expect to see that series lose like this. We'll have to see how Batman and Uncharted fare upon release, but right now, it looks even more like GotY is a two-horse race between Skyrim and Zelda. Based on this performance, who knows if CoD will even land in the top four or five.

Zelda
Skyrim
Uncharted
Batman
Portal

CoD?

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 10:02:00 AM
#396:


Nah, Call of Duty won't beat any of those.

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10/01/11 10:41:00 AM
#397:


Then the series has fallen far on GameFAQs. From GotY to outside the top five.

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-LusterSoldier-
10/01/11 10:44:00 AM
#398:


I'm guessing a good chunk of those 20% Battlefield supporters are just anti-CoD votes

Considering Battlefield just got 18.63% in yesterday's poll, I don't think it's doing better today because of anti-CoD votes.

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PartOfYourWorld
10/01/11 11:01:00 AM
#399:


I think a non-negligible chunk of BF3's strength is anti-CoD votes!

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10/01/11 11:04:00 AM
#400:


PartOfYourWorld posted...
I think a non-negligible chunk of BF3's strength is anti-CoD votes!

Wouldn't Anti-CoD people just vote they don't like FPS?

And I expect BF3 to be stronger. MW3 is no longer made by Infinity Ward, which has sapped a lot of the excitement for the CoD franchise

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