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TopicAi art looks better than "real" art
adjl
03/22/24 1:26:55 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
You could argue to which degree they influence the act of creation, but that's one mother of a slippery slope because every artist uses tools. There is a significant difference between someone who fingerpaints on a cave wall using self-crafted pigments and someone who draws on a computer tablet or manipulates a photograph in Photoshop, but they're all still artists.

That's the thing: Generative AI doesn't influence or facilitate the act of creation. It replaces it. Every other artistic tool simplifies or streamlines part of that act of creation, which may open up creative possibilities that would otherwise be inaccessible (like being able to select a colour from a wheel of 16.7 million of them instead of having to hand-mix pigments), but the actual act of creation still relies on the artist creating what they want no matter how many tools are available to help them express their ideas.

AI, however, does all the creation for you. Conceptually, it's identical to commissioning an artist to create something for you: You come up with an idea of what you want, you take that idea to somebody that has the skills needed to express that idea, and you work with what they've given you to fine-tune it to your needs/desires. The only real difference is that you don't have to pay for the commission because it's not a person doing it for you.

The line blurs a bit when you start talking about photography, but photography's in a weird space as an art form to begin with (the creativity and skill lies not necessarily in creating something new, but rather in figuring out how to capture something that already exists in a way that expresses the desired vision), so I'm fine with putting that aside because it doesn't lend itself to easy analogies.

Blue_Thunder posted...
Its uses for actual artists are limited, and it's more a tool for people for people who don't make art to make okayish images with minimal effort and for corporate entities to cut costs.

Pretty much. If you have the creativity and skill to create your own art, it's largely useless (at least generative stuff, AI-based enhancements can be helpful). If you don't, it saves you from having to pay somebody to shore up your deficiency.

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