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TopicGoku and Vegeta are not the strongest, that belongs to either Gohan,Broly or Fre
tremain07
11/10/23 7:56:31 PM
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No, they lose a lot any time they win is the result of team work or another character doing it Goku defeated Freiza but it didn't kill him Future Trunks killed him on his own, Goku didn't beat Cell, Gohan did and even then Gohan only did because Vegeta managed to distract Cell enough for him to win the beam clash, The spirit bomb killed Buu, Beerus was satisfied so he didn't blow everybody up, Goku had to sneak attack Golden Freiza, Goku lost to Hit in a straight fight but Hit foreitted officially, Zamasu outright defeated both Goku and Vegeta when their fusion ran out, Asspull Sword Trunks followed by Asspull Zeno killed him for good, Goku nor Vegeta nor Frieza could put Jiren down, Jiren had to be pushed out of the ring after being exhausted fighting them by Goku and Freiza together, Vegeta had to watch after being bested by Jiren and giving the last of his energy to Goku, Broly easily beat Goku and Vegeta once he went nuts, Gogeta would have killed him had it not been for his green mom, Moro had Goku beat but by then Moro's sanity was so far gone he had no idea who he was or what he was even doing anymore and was going to blow up, Granola easily defeated both Goku and Vegeta in their strongest forms back to back and so did Gas and most recently Gohan even ponders if Goku and Vegeta would even stand a chance against Cell Max. Those two are strong but there's lots of guys out there who can give them the hands and now we see with Daima that they've been reduced to children by unknown means

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