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I've seen a few vidoes/comics where batman defeats enemies much stronger than him (in one and enemy that defeats wonder woman for instance), by using martial arts techniques and their own strength against them etc.

Personally I think there is a limit to that, especially if the enemy also has super speed and reflexes, you have to actually be able to alter their attacks, have your body as a lever to flip them etc for you to use their strength against them. As long as you are on some kind of even playing field, so that your body isn't the equivalent of made of paper, you can probably have some effect, but I don't really think Batman with all his skills should really be able to defeat someone strong enough to defeat wonder woman (or superman) just because of skill (unless he had something boosting his strength or reducing theirs).

Anyway I agree that you would need to actually adapt and in fact that was one of my points, it's silly that so many kryptonians (both friends/family and enemies) are able to instantly adapt to having the powers. I was just saying though, that if they COULD instantly adapt (which makes no freaking sense at all, but they keep doing it in movies/tv shows etc almost universally) they would be far more deadly than superman who has never actually been trained to fight, had many real challenges against people his own strength etc.

I do agree that in theory at least other kryptonians should not be as effective, or even know how to use many of supermans powers, that should give him a window when he could easily defeat even multiple kryptonians before they become a real threat, seal them in a nucleor chamber or lead lines room etc so they can't absorb the sun until they die. That would make the most sense.

If you do just give them instinctual knowledge of how to use flight/eye beams/freeze breathe/super speed etc though, I think superman would be at a extreme disadvantage even vs a normal every day soldier from his planet, but that is nothing that is even touched apon in any of the stories I have read/movies/shows I have watched etc.