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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I think so too. But they argued that the development of the vaccine was rushed and it hadn't been thoroughly tested. So if you were someone who agreed with them then, it was still true when they were the ones who mandated it.

If it helps, I was also concerned that the vaccines may have been rushed and inadequately tested, independent of any comments Biden et al made or whether or not Trump was endorsing them. The fact of the matter is that this was a very short vaccine development timeline with very high stakes and a lot of incentive to cut corners to be the first to market, and that reality has nothing to do with political leanings.

Then they came out, and the various regulatory agencies shared the data that was considered in approving them and some of the strategies used to complete the process so quickly (like conducting clinical trial stages in parallel instead of in sequence), which did a lot to bolster my confidence. Perhaps most significantly, though, the nature of the triaged rollout meant that people were getting the vaccines for months before I was even eligible, so I had hundreds of millions of doses to base my analysis on, which was enough to satisfy my skepticism.

There was reason to be skeptical of the covid vaccines. Absolutely. There's enough data now, though, that that reason is gone (or at least, legitimate skepticism can be answered and dispelled). Reality has changed, so our reaction to reality must follow suit.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I consider that to be part of the election process.

You can make that argument, but it's still outside of anything the government can control or secure without going full North Korea, and it's definitely not relevant to concerns of voting fraud.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I don't see how that changes anything in my comment. Those protests still resulted in autonomous zones and several prominent democrats expressed support for them.

The fact that most left-leaning folks don't support the autonomous zones changes quite a bit about the validity of the belief that a meaningful portion of left-leaning folks support the autonomous zones. Namely, it renders it completely mistaken.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I am in total agreement with this statement. Where we disagree is whether the attempt succeeded.

I don't think it succeeded, so either you're mistaken about what I believe or you have some very dubious beliefs about what came of the insurrection.