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TopicThe Chris Chan case is horrifying by any stretch, but
MrMallard
08/02/21 7:28:04 AM
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I've heard at least one take about how Chris-Chan adopted the trans label to prey on cis lesbians.

That rhetoric skirts close to the TERF logic of "trans women are just predatory men", but the take I saw was specifically from a femme-presenting AMAB nonbinary person, arguing that Chris-Chan wasn't transgender - more of a No True Scotsman sort of deal.

I don't want to lean in one direction or the other, as I don't feel qualified to do so as someone who doesn't ID as being in the trans community. All I know is that if this person is correct and Chris-Chan has stated that a reason for her transition was to expand her dating pool to cisgender lesbians - which isn't that out of character for Chris-Chan to do - then perhaps there is an argument to be made for Chris-Chan's transition being illegitimate.

With that being said - there are issues with this rhetoric. It skirts close to TERF rhetoric, in that it argues that a trans woman was just a predatory man the whole time. It skirts close to transmedicalist rhetoric, to the degree that if we open up the floodgates with Chris-Chan not being a "true" trans woman, it invites people within and outside of the trans community to legitimise the argument of someone "not being a real trans person", which is already done to exclude trans and nonbinary people within the queer community for not hitting a checklist of medical diagnoses.

This is a sketchy area, and as someone who doesn't identify as trans, I don't think I can speak to the legitimacy of any position on this matter. But I will state my opinion as such - no community is wholly free of assholes and monsters. People like J.K. Rowling are said to have been radicalised by a transgender criminal in the UK, for example, and Chris-Chan could easily be identified as a criminal and monster without her gender identity coming into it. Rather than defining the trans community by these people, we should take their behavior and crimes into account as a whole person and not as a representative of the trans community.

The discourse is there among some as to whether Chris-Chan is legitimately a transgender woman, or if her transition was to expand her dating pool to cis lesbians. If there is proof of the latter, that's worth taking into account. But as it stands, Chris-Chan calls herself a woman, and that's all we have to go on.

Pre- and post-transition, Chris-Chan has been misogynistic, sexually abusive and incredibly maladjusted due in part to the way she's been egged on and treated during her time on the internet, as well as to her severe autism. And regardless of her gender identity, that reflects on her as a person across her entire life, not just on her gender identity. The conversation around Chris-Chan is a lot more complicated than any one aspect of her identity that's being debated among both cis and trans people.

Basically, this entire thing is a clusterfuck and I can't make heads nor tails of it.

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