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Topic	Conservatives are OUTRAGED over this video on NICKELODEON!! Are you Mad too??
adjl 06/12/21 12:02:45 PM #116:	Kegran posted... No there's something inherently wrong with it. If that's what you truly believe, you should be able to demonstrate that inherent wrong. Hop to it, or change your beliefs to something you can actually substantiate. Kegran posted... Maybe not having children is the problem with it. Maybe attempting to pass gay culture down to not your children through children's media is part of my problem with this situation. So the problem has shifted from "gay people don't pass culture on because they don't have kids" to "gay people pass on their own culture"? Yeah, this is sounding more and more like you're just being homophobic for homophobia's sake, not like you have a legitimate point. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you have failed. Kegran posted... What gay cartoons did you watch as a child and how unacceptable do you believe yourself to be? None. My acceptance of homosexuality (et al) was a product of a tolerant upbringing and peers that were okay with it. Even so, it took longer than I might have liked to arrive at how accepting I currently am, and I don't doubt that that was a consequence of a lack of exposure. Had gay characters been more than just a punch line (if they were present at all) in the media I consumed growing up, I would have arrived much more quickly at my current position. Kegran posted... What advantage is there to normalizing homosexuality? Why should something that is statistically not normal be normalized in the first place and especially to children? Normalizing something simply means accepting it as part of your normal experience, not establishing it as the statistical norm. Yes, being gay is an abnormal state, statistically speaking. The problem is not acknowledging that, it's that "abnormal" has a bunch of pejorative connotations attached to it that frequently get applied to anything that deviates from our typical experience. To that end, having more depictions of "abnormal" people in the media we consume regularly makes them part of our typical experience, which in turn makes it less jarring to encounter actual people that fit those molds and reduces the likelihood of negative reactions. Basically, if you get used to weird stuff, it stops bothering you. As for why that's important, people being bothered by homosexuality has been the basis for countless past and present atrocities, and at the very least, makes gay people feel needlessly uncomfortable. So... stop it. It's pointless, and pointlessly hurting people is always stupid and bad. Kegran posted... Essentially it's important indoctrination to you and that's why adults should inject homosexuality into children's media. Yes, I do think "gay people shouldn't be treated as sub-human" is something everyone should be "indoctrinated" with. Anyone who doesn't is, as mentioned before, utter trash, because that's just called being a decent person. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954919339] in Conservati... [t:79502621]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>No there's something inherently wrong with it.</quote> If that's what you truly believe, you should be able to demonstrate that inherent wrong. Hop to it, or change your beliefs to something you can actually substantiate. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe not having children is the problem with it. Maybe attempting to pass gay culture down to not your children through children's media is part of my problem with this situation.</quote> So the problem has shifted from "gay people don't pass culture on because they don't have kids" to "gay people pass on their own culture"? Yeah, this is sounding more and more like you're just being homophobic for homophobia's sake, not like you have a legitimate point. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you have failed. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>What gay cartoons did you watch as a child and how unacceptable do you believe yourself to be?</quote> None. My acceptance of homosexuality (et al) was a product of a tolerant upbringing and peers that were okay with it. Even so, it took longer than I might have liked to arrive at how accepting I currently am, and I don't doubt that that was a consequence of a lack of exposure. Had gay characters been more than just a punch line (if they were present at all) in the media I consumed growing up, I would have arrived much more quickly at my current position. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>What advantage is there to normalizing homosexuality? Why should something that is statistically not normal be normalized in the first place and especially to children?</quote> Normalizing something simply means accepting it as part of your normal experience, not establishing it as the statistical norm. Yes, being gay is an abnormal state, statistically speaking. The problem is not acknowledging that, it's that "abnormal" has a bunch of pejorative connotations attached to it that frequently get applied to anything that deviates from our typical experience. To that end, having more depictions of "abnormal" people in the media we consume regularly makes them part of our typical experience, which in turn makes it less jarring to encounter actual people that fit those molds and reduces the likelihood of negative reactions. Basically, if you get used to weird stuff, it stops bothering you. As for why that's important, people being bothered by homosexuality has been the basis for countless past and present atrocities, and at the very least, makes gay people feel needlessly uncomfortable. So... stop it. It's pointless, and pointlessly hurting people is always stupid and bad. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>Essentially it's important indoctrination to you and that's why adults should inject homosexuality into children's media.</quote> Yes, I do think "gay people shouldn't be treated as sub-human" is something everyone should be "indoctrinated" with. Anyone who doesn't is, as mentioned before, utter trash, because that's just called being a decent person. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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