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Topic	TCU will no longer use 'Freshman' due to 'Gender' types
ParanoidObsessive 06/11/21 9:33:35 AM #31:	phobia881 posted... That's a fair decision. You have to be awfully soy to think this is weird. Ehh, "soy" would be feeling the need for such a thing in the first place. darkknight109 posted... Just call them "first-years", like pretty much every English-speaking country outside of America does. The main problem here is that it then becomes awkward if you call them first-years, but then still have Sophmore, Junior, and Senior as full titles. If you're going to do away with the one you should do away with them all. Though I'd be entirely up for that - the framework of Freshman/Sophmore/Junior/Senior is kind of flawed anyway, because it assumes a regular progression for students in a set time-frame, and that really isn't what college is anymore. Some people take longer than four years to get their BA/BS. Some people change majors in the middle and reset all their progress - are they still Juniors because of how long they've been there, or do they go back to being Freshmen? If someone transfers from a different school and loses credits in the process (something that happened to someone I knew), do they slide backwards from Junior to Sophmore? If someone comes in with enough AP and extra credit to effectively bypass a years worth of classes, are they Freshmen because it's their first year, or Sophmores because they're more advanced in lesson planning? Calling someone a first-year (or second-year, third-year, fourth-year, or even fifth-year, sixth-year, etc) is a more meaningful descriptor. Especially because it can remain entirely detached from the idea of where you are academically, or how much time you've got left. It's just a measure of how long you've been there. And realistically, those titles are kind of useless in college anyway. There's more of a point to them in high school, but in college you're rarely going to have "Freshman-Only" dorms or facilities or activities or "Senior-Only" privileges. Even things like "Freshman Orientation" can easily be called "New Student Orientation" instead. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:954879991] in TCU will n... [t:79505482]...</cite> <quote><cite>phobia881 posted...</cite> <quote>That's a fair decision. You have to be awfully soy to think this is weird.</quote> Ehh, "soy" would be feeling the need for such a thing in the first place. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Just call them "first-years", like pretty much every English-speaking country outside of America does.</quote> The main problem here is that it then becomes awkward if you call them first-years, but then still have Sophmore, Junior, and Senior as full titles. If you're going to do away with the one you should do away with them all. Though I'd be entirely up for that - the framework of Freshman/Sophmore/Junior/Senior is kind of flawed anyway, because it assumes a regular progression for students in a set time-frame, and that really isn't what college is anymore. Some people take longer than four years to get their BA/BS. Some people change majors in the middle and reset all their progress - are they still Juniors because of how long they've been there, or do they go back to being Freshmen? If someone transfers from a different school and loses credits in the process (something that happened to someone I knew), do they slide backwards from Junior to Sophmore? If someone comes in with enough AP and extra credit to effectively bypass a years worth of classes, are they Freshmen because it's their first year, or Sophmores because they're more advanced in lesson planning? Calling someone a first-year (or second-year, third-year, fourth-year, or even fifth-year, sixth-year, etc) is a more meaningful descriptor. Especially because it can remain entirely detached from the idea of where you are academically, or how much time you've got left. It's just a measure of how long you've been there. And realistically, those titles are kind of useless in college anyway. There's more of a point to them in high school, but in college you're rarely going to have "Freshman-Only" dorms or facilities or activities or "Senior-Only" privileges. Even things like "Freshman Orientation" can easily be called "New Student Orientation" instead. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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