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Topic	Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury trailer
adjl 01/25/21 5:36:51 PM #151:	Master_Magnus posted... I don't care if I got the game at $60 or $30. If you're talking about value, you should. Master_Magnus posted... No it usually isn't wrong. Otherwise people wouldn't be irrational. When people are being irrational, they generally don't stop to consider if they're wrong. That would be a very rational thing to do, and people that are being irrational typically struggle with being rational. Master_Magnus posted... Bowser's Fury is very meaningful content. Not meaningful enough to justify your absurdly melodramatic reaction. Master_Magnus posted... There are no other solutions. -Say "that's annoying, I'm not buying that" and move on with your life -Suck it up and buy the game (ideally after waiting for a reasonable discount) Oh hey two very easy solutions that don't involve ruined lives. Who knew? Master_Magnus posted... Most exclusives on all Nintendo consoles were exclusive for at least two generations. Except for all the ones that weren't. Again, this isn't that uncommon. For that matter, where all other Nintendo generations have been 6 years long (WiiU was only 5), 7 years is actually long enough to skip a generation, if the game in question comes out late in the original generation and early in the remade one, so it's hypothetically been long enough that this remake could follow that metric. Master_Magnus posted... By late 2013 they should have pulled the plug on the Wii U if they weren't going to support it like Gamecube. Late 2013 was only hen the PS4 and Xbone came out. It really wasn't until 2015 or so that it became apparent that the WiiU definitely wasn't getting back on track (after several high-profile releases that failed to salvage it, including Smash, Mario Kart, SM3DW, and Xenoblade, and with BotW delayed far enough for pushing it forward to be an option). After that point, it was a matter of getting what they could out of it until the Switch came out (which had been announced by then), which is pretty clearly what happened. I don't know if you think they should have released the Switch four years sooner or something equally impossible, but the course the WiiU took is very much a reasonable one for a console that underperformed as badly as it did from a company that was still in good enough shape to stick around afterward. They got a successor out relatively quickly so they could move on, but continued to support it until that point so they could maintain as much of a revenue stream as possible. Master_Magnus posted... It's only a gamble for s*** console makers like Nintendo or when you buy a console literally on day one. No, it's always a gamble. Exclusives are the only reason to own a specific system (especially one of Nintendo's, which doesn't get the multiplat support others tend to), and it's always a crapshoot whether or not those exclusives will be worth the purchase of the console. Ask Xbone owners which exclusives they bought their system for and see how many of them can't even come up with one off the top of their head. Ask yourself which exclusives you bought your PS5 for. Master_Magnus posted... Good console makers guarantee their consoles aren't failures or at the very least don't promise support for failed consoles beyond day one Again, you seem to think that companies know which consoles will fail on day one. If they knew, they wouldn't launch them. I really don't know why you keep coming back to this "don't promise support for consoles that end up failing 4-5 years later" thing as though Nintendo had the hindsight benefit you currently enjoy back in 2012. it's quite absurd. Master_Magnus posted... That's what I did with Wii U. I bought it because I wanted to play Super Mario 3D World. And you got to play SM3DW. Woohoo! Satisfaction! Your purchase was vindicated! Stop acting like you've been horribly wronged because you aren't getting something beyond what you bought the system for. What you got from that purchase hasn't changed. If you were satisfied with it then, you should be satisfied with it now. You're not entitled to anything more than what you chose to pay for. Get over yourself. Master_Magnus posted... Then the videogame industry is wrong. They're wrong to sell games to people that want to buy them? That just sounds like straightforward commerce to me. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:949913437] in Super Mari... [t:79234483]...</cite> <quote>Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>I don't care if I got the game at $60 or $30.</quote> If you're talking about value, you should. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>No it usually isn't wrong. Otherwise people wouldn't be irrational.</quote> When people are being irrational, they generally don't stop to consider if they're wrong. That would be a very rational thing to do, and people that are being irrational typically struggle with being rational. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>Bowser's Fury is very meaningful content.</quote> Not meaningful enough to justify your absurdly melodramatic reaction. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>There are no other solutions.</quote> -Say "that's annoying, I'm not buying that" and move on with your life -Suck it up and buy the game (ideally after waiting for a reasonable discount) Oh hey two very easy solutions that don't involve ruined lives. Who knew? Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>Most exclusives on all Nintendo consoles were exclusive for at least two generations.</quote> Except for all the ones that weren't. Again, this isn't that uncommon. For that matter, where all other Nintendo generations have been 6 years long (WiiU was only 5), 7 years is actually long enough to skip a generation, if the game in question comes out late in the original generation and early in the remade one, so it's hypothetically been long enough that this remake could follow that metric. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>By late 2013 they should have pulled the plug on the Wii U if they weren't going to support it like Gamecube.</quote> Late 2013 was only hen the PS4 and Xbone came out. It really wasn't until 2015 or so that it became apparent that the WiiU definitely wasn't getting back on track (after several high-profile releases that failed to salvage it, including Smash, Mario Kart, SM3DW, and Xenoblade, and with BotW delayed far enough for pushing it forward to be an option). After that point, it was a matter of getting what they could out of it until the Switch came out (which had been announced by then), which is pretty clearly what happened. I don't know if you think they should have released the Switch four years sooner or something equally impossible, but the course the WiiU took is very much a reasonable one for a console that underperformed as badly as it did from a company that was still in good enough shape to stick around afterward. They got a successor out relatively quickly so they could move on, but continued to support it until that point so they could maintain as much of a revenue stream as possible. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> <quote>It's only a gamble for s*** console makers like Nintendo or when you buy a console literally on day one.</quote> No, it's always a gamble. Exclusives are the only reason to own a specific system (especially one of Nintendo's, which doesn't get the multiplat support others tend to), and it's always a crapshoot whether or not those exclusives will be worth the purchase of the console. Ask Xbone owners which exclusives they bought their system for and see how many of them can't even come up with one off the top of their head. Ask yourself which exclusives you bought your PS5 for. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> Good console makers guarantee their consoles aren't failures or at the very least don't promise support for failed consoles beyond day one Again, you seem to think that companies know which consoles will fail on day one. If they knew, they wouldn't launch them. I really don't know why you keep coming back to this "don't promise support for consoles that end up failing 4-5 years later" thing as though Nintendo had the hindsight benefit you currently enjoy back in 2012. it's quite absurd. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> That's what I did with Wii U. I bought it because I wanted to play Super Mario 3D World. And you got to play SM3DW. Woohoo! Satisfaction! Your purchase was vindicated! Stop acting like you've been horribly wronged because you aren't getting something beyond what you bought the system for. What you got from that purchase hasn't changed. If you were satisfied with it then, you should be satisfied with it now. You're not entitled to anything more than what you chose to pay for. Get over yourself. Master_Magnus posted... </cite> Then the videogame industry is wrong. They're wrong to sell games to people that want to buy them? That just sounds like straightforward commerce to me. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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