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Topic	What happens if Trump tries to PARDON the MAGA RIOTERS????
Zeus 01/11/21 9:11:16 PM #28:	Lokarin posted... Pardon's erase that, otherwise a judge could just say 'time served' for the same effect If you don't know how something works, don't make wild fucking claims about it. mrduckbear posted... The House is already trying to disable his ability to have NUCLEAR CODES... Which is just fucking moronic that Nancy Pelosi is repeating this batshit conspiracy theory, which makes no sense on any level. If your argument is, "Oh, we're worried what he might do because he's unstable," it completely undercuts your argument if you've been trying to antagonize and annoy him. Clearly there's no fear of what he might do because, if there was, they wouldn't be trying to demand his removal from office mere days before he leaves office. It's just more cheap political theater with no fucking value except to the partisans and America's enemies who can gloat over our division. streamofthesky posted... How does a president pardon for crimes that haven't even been tried yet? How the fuck is a pre-emptive pardon even a thing? seems to make a mockery of the entire idea of the pardon. Much like how a "filibuster" went from a dude actually speaking for hours to stall out a vote to merely "threatening to do so" and it being treated as a filibuster. Because the pardon pertains to the event rather than the charges? Honestly, I think a pardon would have to work like that to have any meaning, because otherwise a person could be pardoned on some charges only for the prosecutor to bring new charges pertaining to the same event to completely bypass that pardon. streamofthesky posted... Reforming the pardon power to only apply to crimes that have already gone to trial and had a verdict seems like such a fucking no-brainer, then... That would be a stupid waste of manpower and resources. You'd basically tie the whole process up in a lengthy trial when the pardon comes at the end anyway, meaning that you've fucked over everybody else in the system who might be waiting for a trial that would actually count. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:949399657] in What happe... [t:79229057]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Pardon's erase that, otherwise a judge could just say 'time served' for the same effect</quote> If you don't know how something works, don't make wild fucking claims about it. mrduckbear posted... </cite> <quote>The House is already trying to disable his ability to have NUCLEAR CODES...</quote> Which is just fucking moronic that Nancy Pelosi is repeating this batshit conspiracy theory, which makes no sense on any level. If your argument is, "Oh, we're worried what he might do because he's unstable," it completely undercuts your argument if you've been trying to antagonize and annoy him. Clearly there's no fear of what he might do because, if there was, they wouldn't be trying to demand his removal from office mere days before he leaves office. It's just more cheap political theater with no fucking value except to the partisans and America's enemies who can gloat over our division. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>How does a president pardon for crimes that haven't even been tried yet? How the fuck is a pre-emptive pardon even a thing? seems to make a mockery of the entire idea of the pardon. Much like how a "filibuster" went from a dude actually speaking for hours to stall out a vote to merely "threatening to do so" and it being treated as a filibuster.</quote> Because the pardon pertains to the event rather than the charges? Honestly, I think a pardon would have to work like that to have any meaning, because otherwise a person could be pardoned on some charges only for the prosecutor to bring new charges pertaining to the same event to completely bypass that pardon. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>Reforming the pardon power to only apply to crimes that have already gone to trial and had a verdict seems like such a fucking no-brainer, then...</quote> That would be a stupid waste of manpower and resources. You'd basically tie the whole process up in a lengthy trial when the pardon comes at the end anyway, meaning that you've fucked over everybody else in the system who might be waiting for a trial that would actually count. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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