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Topic	Do you ever hate characters for being too perfect?
adjl 11/20/20 2:49:10 PM #41:	Naruto_fan_42 posted... I get your point with the one arm thing, but this confuses me. Shulk was this nerdy weapon dev/Monado analyst who has to rise to the challenge and experienced a lot of hardship along the way. Dunban was the old guy who had already seen everything before the game happened, and is co-hero with Shulk even though they play him as support. He was known everywhere as Dunban, hero of Sword Valley, while Shulk was Monado Boy most places. His history of being this untouchable hero cements his role in the party and the overall game as well imo. He's got a reputation of being a hero based on past accolades and whatnot, but he's very obviously inferior to Shulk in every way because Shulk just happened to be the "chosen one" who could use the Monado properly. Even if he weren't injured, Dunban would have been slaughtered when Colony 9 was attacked because they were so hopelessly outgunned that "guy who can kind of use the only known weapon that can reliably damage mechon" wouldn't have been remotely enough. The only reason the Colony survived the attack is because Shulk magically developed the ability to use the Monado flawlessly the first time he tried. Dunban was too weak to save anyone. The only reason Dunban was able to become the "hero of Sword Valley" was because he worked his ass off to be strong enough to wield the Monado despite its efforts to kill him, and it still almost did him in. The world lauds him for his accomplishments there, but he knows he barely scraped by and that Shulk has far more heroic potential than he ever will (even if that potential is later explained and Dunban doesn't really need to feel bad in comparison), a difference in power levels that is extremely apparent throughout the story. Naruto_fan_42 posted... No, the fact that hes one of the heroes even though Shulk has the Monado now and he just has a katana Most of the party just has mundane weapons. Reyn's got a weird pointy shield thing, Sharla's got a generic rifle, Riki literally has a sock puppet on a stick (literally.), ~~Seven's got a couple of knives~~... A katana is nothing unusually mundane, even if his is one of the first anti-mechon weapons available (which is a consequence of new technology being developed, not of Dunban magically being capable of hurting mechon despite not having a special weapon). He's no less plausible a party member or hero than anyone else; Shulk and (to a lesser extent) Melia and Seven are the only ones with any inherent traits that make them more powerful than anyone else in the world. Naruto_fan_42 posted... you cant deny that Reyn, Sharla, and Riki made it through willpower alone. Which is all Dunban's ever had, and the only reason he was able to take up the Monado in the first place and become that war hero everyone loves him as. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:947406025] in Do you eve... [t:79121722]...</cite> <quote>Naruto_fan_42 posted... </cite> <quote>I get your point with the one arm thing, but this confuses me. Shulk was this nerdy weapon dev/Monado analyst who has to rise to the challenge and experienced a lot of hardship along the way. Dunban was the old guy who had already seen everything before the game happened, and is co-hero with Shulk even though they play him as support. He was known everywhere as Dunban, hero of Sword Valley, while Shulk was Monado Boy most places. His history of being this untouchable hero cements his role in the party and the overall game as well imo.</quote> He's got a reputation of being a hero based on past accolades and whatnot, but he's very obviously inferior to Shulk in every way because Shulk just happened to be the "chosen one" who could use the Monado properly. Even if he weren't injured, Dunban would have been slaughtered when Colony 9 was attacked because they were so hopelessly outgunned that "guy who can kind of use the only known weapon that can reliably damage mechon" wouldn't have been remotely enough. The only reason the Colony survived the attack is because Shulk magically developed the ability to use the Monado flawlessly the first time he tried. Dunban was too weak to save anyone. The only reason Dunban was able to become the "hero of Sword Valley" was because he worked his ass off to be strong enough to wield the Monado despite its efforts to kill him, and it still almost did him in. The world lauds him for his accomplishments there, but he knows he barely scraped by and that Shulk has far more heroic potential than he ever will (even if that potential is later explained and Dunban doesn't really need to feel bad in comparison), a difference in power levels that is extremely apparent throughout the story. Naruto_fan_42 posted... </cite> <quote>No, the fact that hes one of the heroes even though Shulk has the Monado now and he just has a katana</quote> Most of the party just has mundane weapons. Reyn's got a weird pointy shield thing, Sharla's got a generic rifle, Riki literally has a sock puppet on a stick (literally.), Seven's got a couple of knives... A katana is nothing unusually mundane, even if his is one of the first anti-mechon weapons available (which is a consequence of new technology being developed, not of Dunban magically being capable of hurting mechon despite not having a special weapon). He's no less plausible a party member or hero than anyone else; Shulk and (to a lesser extent) Melia and Seven are the only ones with any inherent traits that make them more powerful than anyone else in the world. Naruto_fan_42 posted... </cite> <quote>you cant deny that Reyn, Sharla, and Riki made it through willpower alone.</quote> Which is all Dunban's ever had, and the only reason he was able to take up the Monado in the first place and become that war hero everyone loves him as. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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