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Topic	are some feelings really just less valid than others?
Zeus 08/26/20 4:20:18 PM #33:	_AdjI_ posted... Why would it be? We'll discount currently sleeping with other guys because that's not what's being discussed here, but provided appropriate steps are taken to ensure the safety of all involved parties (namely STD testing), why should sexual history have any bearing on a present relationship? ...you honestly don't see any difference between a bunch of relationships over a long period of time vs a bunch of relationships over a short period of time? >_> _AdjI_ posted... I've personally seen you break out the "A key that fits many locks..." analogy in this context, so I really hope you don't plan on pretending you think there isn't a sexist double standard when it comes to promiscuity. I think you may be confusing me for PO again because that's kind of his catch phrase but sure, there are different standards regarding genders in pretty much every area. And in general, there seems to be a mistaken belief that "equality" means no differences between the genders when there are always going to be differences between the genders because they can act and see things in different ways. If they didn't, life would be a lot simpler. _AdjI_ posted... It should, if they have some modicum of self-awareness. Being a hypocrite doesn't automatically make somebody wrong, but when the only factor involved in forming the position is "I feel this is the wrong thing to do," it does. It shouldn't, though, because there's no logical justification. And if you're promoting the idea of sexual preference based on "sameness," then your ideal would be same-sex incest (because you'd share the same everything, right down to DNA and gender). While people may look for some similarities regarding partners, they also look for differences as well. And broadly speaking there's the idea of exclusivity. If a man or woman has had many partners, being chosen by them is going to be less special. Gaawa_chan posted... If you see people on the street and immediately assume that they are to blame for everything that's gone wrong in their lives and that if only the hundreds of thousands of individuals with little to no power would just fix their problems on their own so that you wouldn't be inconvenienced by their existence, then yeah, your feelings are not valid. Your post is still mostly gibberish, although at least it's slightly more comprehensible than the one I responded to and which I criticized for being a complete mess. As for the subject of homelessness, even the way you preface the conversation shows how you wrongly you think about the subject. You think about things in the context of "blame" rather than "responsibility." Whether a person falls into a ditch or is shoved, it's up to them to pull themselves out. How you get there matters less than how you get out of there. That said, a certain % of the homeless has mental illness problems that impede their ability to climb out and others really need rehab to become functional people again. SunWuKung420 posted... When what a person is feeling is based on incorrect assumptions and falsehoods. Also this, although I'd add that feelings are less meaningful when it's something being parroted. _AdjI_ posted... Except sex is a mutually enjoyable activity (provided you don't suck at it), not a product. Sure, it can be sold as a service, but framing it like that is not going to be appropriate for the vast majority of people because the vast majority of people aren't prostitutes. When people choose to have sex, it's because they want to have sex, not because they decide that their partner has earned access to that service. The concepts of "value" and "worth" have no place here. Trying to shoehorn them in is flagrant objectification, and precisely the kind of attitude anti-slut shaming sentiments are trying to combat. And singing/music is an enjoyable experience, but people assign value to that on any number of factors. Just because it's something both parties can enjoy doesn't necessarily mean that it lacks worth. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:943852377] in are some f... [t:78914327]...</cite> <quote>_AdjI_ posted... </cite> <quote>Why would it be? We'll discount currently sleeping with other guys because that's not what's being discussed here, but provided appropriate steps are taken to ensure the safety of all involved parties (namely STD testing), why should sexual history have any bearing on a present relationship?</quote> ...you honestly don't see any difference between a bunch of relationships over a long period of time vs a bunch of relationships over a short period of time? >_> _AdjI_ posted... </cite> <quote>I've personally seen you break out the "A key that fits many locks..." analogy in this context, so I really hope you don't plan on pretending you think there isn't a sexist double standard when it comes to promiscuity.</quote> I think you may be confusing me for PO again because that's kind of his catch phrase but sure, there are different standards regarding genders in pretty much every area. And in general, there seems to be a mistaken belief that "equality" means no differences between the genders when there are always going to be differences between the genders because they can act and see things in different ways. If they didn't, life would be a lot simpler. _AdjI_ posted... </cite> <quote> It should, if they have some modicum of self-awareness. Being a hypocrite doesn't automatically make somebody wrong, but when the only factor involved in forming the position is "I feel this is the wrong thing to do," it does.</quote> It shouldn't, though, because there's no logical justification. And if you're promoting the idea of sexual preference based on "sameness," then your ideal would be same-sex incest (because you'd share the same everything, right down to DNA and gender). While people may look for some similarities regarding partners, they also look for differences as well. And broadly speaking there's the idea of exclusivity. If a man or woman has had many partners, being chosen by them is going to be less special. Gaawa_chan posted... </cite> <quote>If you see people on the street and immediately assume that they are to blame for everything that's gone wrong in their lives and that if only the hundreds of thousands of individuals with little to no power would just fix their problems on their own so that you wouldn't be inconvenienced by their existence, then yeah, your feelings are not valid.</quote> Your post is still mostly gibberish, although at least it's slightly more comprehensible than the one I responded to and which I criticized for being a complete mess. As for the subject of homelessness, even the way you preface the conversation shows how you wrongly you think about the subject. You think about things in the context of "blame" rather than "responsibility." Whether a person falls into a ditch or is shoved, it's up to them to pull themselves out. How you get there matters less than how you get out of there. That said, a certain % of the homeless has mental illness problems that impede their ability to climb out and others really need rehab to become functional people again. SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>When what a person is feeling is based on incorrect assumptions and falsehoods.</quote> Also this, although I'd add that feelings are less meaningful when it's something being parroted. _AdjI_ posted... </cite> <quote>Except sex is a mutually enjoyable activity (provided you don't suck at it), not a product. Sure, it can be sold as a service, but framing it like that is not going to be appropriate for the vast majority of people because the vast majority of people aren't prostitutes. When people choose to have sex, it's because they want to have sex, not because they decide that their partner has earned access to that service. The concepts of "value" and "worth" have no place here. Trying to shoehorn them in is flagrant objectification, and precisely the kind of attitude anti-slut shaming sentiments are trying to combat.</quote> And singing/music is an enjoyable experience, but people assign value to that on any number of factors. Just because it's something both parties can enjoy doesn't necessarily mean that it lacks worth. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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