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Topic	A person wrote racist comments with their company name on their profile
joe40001 08/17/20 12:48:39 PM #179:	StarReaper13 posted... Here's the thing, if someone is being a bigot, or any sort of dick really, and has their company attached, it's well within the company's rights to say "We don't want this piece of shit employed at our company" for any reason. Be it, "We don't want this attached to us" or "We don't know how this douchebag interacts with other employees/customers (be them White or a PoC)", or simply "We don't stand for this sort of disgusting thought and it's our right not to give someone money while they're spouting such bullshit". If you want to shame TC/the company but not the bigot, you're probably on the wrong side of it all for a specific reason or 2. Isn't that what the usual defenders say when companies decide not to serve specific people anyway? When we talk about companies rights they basically have all the power. They can legally fire you for anything they don't like about you unless it's a protected class issue. Pretty sure Disney can fire people if those people say negative things about China. So "it's well within their rights" doesn't matter too much in the discussion of what is actually right and wrong. In a world where you need a job to not be homeless, to have healthcare, to really survive in any meaningful way, I think the thing that is most fair is that you should not be fired for expressing a thought on your own time. You shouldn't be fired for anything non-illegal that you do outside of work, and within work you should generally only be fired if you cannot perform your job well. Would this maybe be a different discussion if people's basic needs were provided for outside of work, like you wouldn't fail to get medicine if you got fired? Perhaps. But as it stands people's survival basically depends on their employment, and also employers are "totally in their right" to fire a person for pretty much anything if they wanted to. And the main things getting people fired are not those on the hunt for justice but on the hunt to punish those who say things that upset them. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:943488738] in A person w... [t:78910605]...</cite> <quote>StarReaper13 posted... </cite> <quote>Here's the thing, if someone is being a bigot, or any sort of dick really, and has their company attached, it's well within the company's rights to say "We don't want this piece of shit employed at our company" for any reason. Be it, "We don't want this attached to us" or "We don't know how this douchebag interacts with other employees/customers (be them White or a PoC)", or simply "We don't stand for this sort of disgusting thought and it's our right not to give someone money while they're spouting such bullshit". If you want to shame TC/the company but not the bigot, you're probably on the wrong side of it all for a specific reason or 2. Isn't that what the usual defenders say when companies decide not to serve specific people anyway?</quote> When we talk about companies rights they basically have all the power. They can legally fire you for anything they don't like about you unless it's a protected class issue. Pretty sure Disney can fire people if those people say negative things about China. So "it's well within their rights" doesn't matter too much in the discussion of what is actually right and wrong. In a world where you need a job to not be homeless, to have healthcare, to really survive in any meaningful way, I think the thing that is most fair is that you should not be fired for expressing a thought on your own time. You shouldn't be fired for anything non-illegal that you do outside of work, and within work you should generally only be fired if you cannot perform your job well. Would this maybe be a different discussion if people's basic needs were provided for outside of work, like you wouldn't fail to get medicine if you got fired? Perhaps. But as it stands people's survival basically depends on their employment, and also employers are "totally in their right" to fire a person for pretty much anything if they wanted to. And the main things getting people fired are not those on the hunt for justice but on the hunt to punish those who say things that upset them. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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