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DirtBasedSoap posted...

we also have a president who has been a russian asset since the late 80s in charge which doesnt help us at all

Now I know why I can't find any tinfoil at my local grocer!

Joker_X_II posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Which was a shitty monologue.

keyblader1985 posted...

This. The country was built on philosophy, but too often those philosophies take a back seat to personal entitlement and the almighty dollar.

The governing philosophy was opportunity which always ends in things like profit.

keyblader1985 posted...

And that's to say nothing of the mountain of problems that the country was also built on. Point to any time in its history and you'll find at least one group of people who were systemically horribly treated. Whenever someone mentions the country being great at some point, a good follow up question is, "for who?"

Which is to stupidly claim, "If a nation isn't good for all people, it's not good." Every country that's ever existed has had at least some horribly treated groups, a reality that remains true to this day and shall continue. The difference between America and many other nations is that a poorly-treated person can rise to or near the top of the social strata, something that can't happen at all in some nations.

keyblader1985 posted...

[Giant image]

Methinks thou dost protest too much. At the end of the day, I know that you know I'm right and you know that I know that you know which is all that matters.

Muscles posted...

You can choose whatever metrics you want, I think we have the best foundation with the constitution, but most of America's problems come from disregarding the constitution imo. Basic human rights are for everyone, and until we stop breaking the constitution we aren't going to be as good as we should be

The problem with that notion is the conflicting viewpoint regarding the Constitution, which ranges from the concept of "originalism" where the latter and intent matter all the way to "it means whatever we want because it's a living, breathing document."

And then there's the matter of reframing "rights" from the original intent -- protections from government -- to proactive, bullshit handouts. When people argued for the right to free speech, it was so that they wouldn't be arrested for expressing their opinions. When people claim that healthcare is a right, they want it to be provided for free instead of paying for it like an adult. The notion of the individual and their relationship to government has become all twisted. Instead of government stepping back and acting as a referee so that people could prosper, they expect government to nanny them because they don't want to think or act for themselves. America was founded on an idea of rugged individualism (where individuals bound together by free-market capitalism), but now people are increasingly dependent (and push for limited-market socialism). There are very few things that people nowadays don't want to hand over to government. This encroachment has been going on for a very long time and has been perpetrated by both parties to some extent.


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