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Topic	Bloodborne DLC question plz
MariaTaylor 07/05/20 4:24:25 AM #133:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Oh also I kind of wish you didn't have to beat Cleric Beast to talk to the doll in NG+. I know it's mechanics, but the lore is that you need insight to talk to her, and I had...80, lol. I don't believe this is the case. The Doll is NEVER awake the first time you visit the Hunter's Dream, which is a little annoying because you have to leave the area and come back a second time just to talk to her. This might be what you experienced. If it's true that she really doesn't wake up until after defeating the Cleric Beast in NG+ that is... really specific and weird. I'd be surprised if that were actually true and I hadn't noticed. UshiromiyaEva posted... Yeah, I did the DLC reading this post amuses me for a few reasons. remember my first post in this topic, 100 posts ago, where I mentioned that having a fully upgraded weapon with good blood gems would impact the difficulty? lol maria is tough but not impossible with the whirligig saw. she is actually pretty easy to stun regardless of what weapon you're using, which means faster weapons are even better. but yeah you did get the benefit of the fact that each hit does lots of damage. combined with her easy stunlock, this means you could win the fight more easily because you needed fewer combos to win. orphan on first try... believe it or not, I also beat him on my first try as well! although by that point I was already a bloodborne vet who had played the base game multiple times, and I also went into the DLC on a fresh file with an optimized build and fought him in NG in a similar situation to yours. so yeah, overall, probably the same level of 'impressive.' your build and your skills really just matter that much. the main thing I think you experienced while playing through the DLC (especially reading about your orphan fight) is just how overpowered blood vials are. as I mentioned before. most of the fights in bloodborne, assuming you aren't flat out underpowered, can be won just by soaking all of the damage and constantly healing yourself until the boss runs out of health first. there's definitely still a HUGE gap between your level of skill and, say, beating the orphan while using only a few vials. not to downplay your achievements, though. good job! UshiromiyaEva posted... Also just realized when I do play again it won't even be this file because it's absolutely gonna be a Skill/Blood build. You can get the Chikage pretty early, thinking about it. NG cycles are more fun anyway, this is another thing I was trying to explain early in the topic haha not so sure about getting the Chikage "early" though. you need to kill Martyr Logarius which is difficult to do, even if you rush to get to Cainhurst as quick as possible it's not as simple as just finding it and picking it up. --- all the rest weren't so unfortunate https://imgur.com/yv2eC4n <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:941694798] in Bloodborne... [t:78812040]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Oh also I kind of wish you didn't have to beat Cleric Beast to talk to the doll in NG+. I know it's mechanics, but the lore is that you need insight to talk to her, and I had...80, lol.</quote> I don't believe this is the case. The Doll is NEVER awake the first time you visit the Hunter's Dream, which is a little annoying because you have to leave the area and come back a second time just to talk to her. This might be what you experienced. If it's true that she really doesn't wake up until after defeating the Cleric Beast in NG+ that is... really specific and weird. I'd be surprised if that were actually true and I hadn't noticed. UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I did the DLC</quote> reading this post amuses me for a few reasons. remember my first post in this topic, 100 posts ago, where I mentioned that having a fully upgraded weapon with good blood gems would impact the difficulty? lol maria is tough but not impossible with the whirligig saw. she is actually pretty easy to stun regardless of what weapon you're using, which means faster weapons are even better. but yeah you did get the benefit of the fact that each hit does lots of damage. combined with her easy stunlock, this means you could win the fight more easily because you needed fewer combos to win. orphan on first try... believe it or not, I also beat him on my first try as well! although by that point I was already a bloodborne vet who had played the base game multiple times, and I also went into the DLC on a fresh file with an optimized build and fought him in NG in a similar situation to yours. so yeah, overall, probably the same level of 'impressive.' your build and your skills really just matter that much. the main thing I think you experienced while playing through the DLC (especially reading about your orphan fight) is just how overpowered blood vials are. as I mentioned before. most of the fights in bloodborne, assuming you aren't flat out underpowered, can be won just by soaking all of the damage and constantly healing yourself until the boss runs out of health first. there's definitely still a HUGE gap between your level of skill and, say, beating the orphan while using only a few vials. not to downplay your achievements, though. good job! UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Also just realized when I do play again it won't even be this file because it's absolutely gonna be a Skill/Blood build. You can get the Chikage pretty early, thinking about it.</quote> NG cycles are more fun anyway, this is another thing I was trying to explain early in the topic haha not so sure about getting the Chikage "early" though. you need to kill Martyr Logarius which is difficult to do, even if you rush to get to Cainhurst as quick as possible it's not as simple as just finding it and picking it up. --- all the rest weren't so unfortunate https://imgur.com/yv2eC4n</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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